Hi All,

Another quick question for you.

When running an external utility for your BBS, do you prefer 32 or 64 bit?

In the past, I've been compiling for both Linux64 and Win32. I haven't heard any complaints, but wanted to make sure this worked for everyone.

I know that a lot of Linux distros have been dropping support for 32bit applications. I'm not sure about the new versions of Windows, if they are still supporting 32bit or not. I have a Win7/32 system here that I compile them on, but could also set up Windows 64 bit in a VM, if needed.

Please let me know your feedback on your preferences with external utilities for your BBS. :)

Thanks


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Black Panther wrote to All <=-

When running an external utility for your BBS, do you prefer 32 or 64
bit?

Windows 32 bit. I run a 32 bit system so I can run the dos based doors.
I expect most windows sysops do the same.

Shawn

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*** Quoting Tiny from a message to Black Panther ***

When running an external utility for your BBS, do you prefer 32 or 64
bit?

Windows 32 bit. I run a 32 bit system so I can run the dos based
doors. I expect most windows sysops do the same.

Ditto. Windows 32 bit here because that's all Telegard will run under.

Jay

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On 02 Mar 21 10:26:33, Warpslide said the following to Black Panther:

When running an external utility for your BBS, do you prefer 32 or 64 bit?

Windows 32 bit. I run a 32 bit system so I can run the dos based doors. I expect most windows sysops do the same.

Ditto. Windows 32 bit here because that's all Telegard will run under.

Ditto here too, likely for the life of the BBS or its owner.

Atreyu

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Re: External Utilities
By: Black Panther to All on Mon Mar 01 2021 11:39 pm

Another quick question for you.

When running an external utility for your BBS, do you prefer 32 or 64 bit?

I run a 64bit slackware so I prefer a 64bit executible. I have no 32bit support installed so I need a 64bit binary.

Ttyl :-),
Al

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On 02 Mar 2021, 11:28a, Tiny said the following...

When running an external utility for your BBS, do you prefer 32 or 64 bit?

Windows 32 bit. I run a 32 bit system so I can run the dos based
doors. I expect most windows sysops do the same.

Thanks, Shawn.

That's what I was thinking, but wanted to make sure it was still correct. :)


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http://www.castlerockbbs.com
http://github.com/DRPanther
The sparrows are flying again...

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On 02 Mar 2021, 10:26a, Warpslide said the following...

When running an external utility for your BBS, do you prefer 32 or 64 bit?

Windows 32 bit. I run a 32 bit system so I can run the dos based doors. I expect most windows sysops do the same.

Ditto. Windows 32 bit here because that's all Telegard will run under.

Thank you.

I just wasn't sure on the Windows side of things if that is still how it was being done. :)


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Castle Rock BBS
telnet://bbs.castlerockbbs.com
http://www.castlerockbbs.com
http://github.com/DRPanther
The sparrows are flying again...

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On 02 Mar 2021, 01:20p, Atreyu said the following...

Windows 32 bit. I run a 32 bit system so I can run the dos based doors. I expect most windows sysops do the same.

Ditto. Windows 32 bit here because that's all Telegard will run under.

Ditto here too, likely for the life of the BBS or its owner.

Thank you Nick. :)


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Black Panther(RCS)
aka Dan Richter
Castle Rock BBS
telnet://bbs.castlerockbbs.com
http://www.castlerockbbs.com
http://github.com/DRPanther
The sparrows are flying again...

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/01/14 (Linux/64)
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On 02 Mar 2021, 10:50a, Al said the following...

When running an external utility for your BBS, do you prefer 32 or 64

I run a 64bit slackware so I prefer a 64bit executible. I have no 32bit support installed so I need a 64bit binary.

Thanks Al.

I know the Linux side of things is a bit different. Even with a lot of distros dropping 32 bit support, it really doesn't change anything with running old DOS games, as they are run through DosEmu. (and probably other options)


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Castle Rock BBS
telnet://bbs.castlerockbbs.com
http://www.castlerockbbs.com
http://github.com/DRPanther
The sparrows are flying again...

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/01/14 (Linux/64)
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On 01 Mar 2021, Black Panther said the following...

Hi All,

Another quick question for you.

When running an external utility for your BBS, do you prefer 32 or 64
bit?

In Windows 32 bit is the way I would shoot, most Windows sysOp's run in a 32 bit enviroment because of Door Usage. I say stick with what works, you can
run at 32 bit file in a 64 bit OS also..

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On 02 Mar 21 14:06:10, Black Panther said the following to Atreyu:

Windows 32 bit. I run a 32 bit system so I can run the dos ba doors. I expect most windows sysops do the same.

Ditto. Windows 32 bit here because that's all Telegard will run un

Ditto here too, likely for the life of the BBS or its owner.

Thank you Nick. :)

I'm being thanked for running a 32-bit Windows system and not for being a super-duper Linux hacker wearing a hoodie staring at green zeros-and-ones trickling down the screen to the score of a techno-music soundtrack?

Atreyu

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On 02 Mar 2021, 06:59p, Bucko said the following...

In Windows 32 bit is the way I would shoot, most Windows sysOp's run in
a 32bit enviroment because of Door Usage. I say stick with what works,
you canrun at 32 bit file in a 64 bit OS also..

Thank you. I guess I just wasn't sure if the newer versions of Windows 64 bit still ran 32 bit programs.


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Castle Rock BBS
telnet://bbs.castlerockbbs.com
http://www.castlerockbbs.com
http://github.com/DRPanther
The sparrows are flying again...

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/01/14 (Linux/64)
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On 02 Mar 2021, 07:02p, Atreyu said the following...

I'm being thanked for running a 32-bit Windows system and not for being
a super-duper Linux hacker wearing a hoodie staring at green zeros-and-ones trickling down the screen to the score of a techno-music soundtrack?

Hey... I resemble that remark. ;) (I even have a bash script that will do the matrix rain)

I was actually thanking you for your input. :)


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Black Panther(RCS)
aka Dan Richter
Castle Rock BBS
telnet://bbs.castlerockbbs.com
http://www.castlerockbbs.com
http://github.com/DRPanther
The sparrows are flying again...

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/01/14 (Linux/64)
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*** Quoting Black Panther from a message to Bucko ***

Thank you. I guess I just wasn't sure if the newer versions of
Windows 64 bit still ran 32 bit programs.

Windows 64 bit will run 32 bit programs no problem, but only Windows 32 bit can still run 16 bit programs (via NTVDM).

Jay

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Black Panther wrote to Tiny <=-

That's what I was thinking, but wanted to make sure it was still
correct. :)

Glad to have helped. ;)

Shawn

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From my experience so far, which is exceptionally limited, the Win32 versions of Mystic appear to be a lot more stable for novice SysOps like myself. I started with Linux64 versions a couple of months back and discovered that the "mis" executable sometimes races (100% CPU) when passing control back and
forth between external doors. I had similar issues when clients would disconnect without logging off, although this didn't appear to happen every time (race condition possibly?). To cut a long story short, I often logged on to my BBS only to find that Mystic was happily burning away at 100% CPU usage.

Of course, this could (most likely) be down to my MIS/BNU/DOSEMU configuration skills, but the A46 Win32 version doesn't appear to exhibit these issues at
all (well, not with NETFOSS anyhow). Now I've gotten over the initial disappointment of not running my BBS on a Linux server - it currently runs in
a Windows XP VM - I'm looking forward to buying a dedicated Win32 box as a final solution. All in all, I'm very happy with Win32 as a host OS.

As for FOSSIL support, I can't recommend NETFOSS highly enough: the guy who develops it is a very amenable chap, and all too willing to address any issues you may encounter (he quickly released updates when I came across an issue a while back).

Best Regards

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On 02 Mar 21 17:28:04, Black Panther said the following to Atreyu:

I'm being thanked for running a 32-bit Windows system and not for bein a super-duper Linux hacker wearing a hoodie staring at green zeros-and-ones trickling down the screen to the score of a techno-musi soundtrack?

Hey... I resemble that remark. ;) (I even have a bash script that will do t matrix rain)

I was actually thanking you for your input. :)

LOL I know. I was being ironical.

Atreyu

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On 03 Mar 2021, 09:37a, Atreyu said the following...

Hey... I resemble that remark. ;) (I even have a bash script that will matrix rain)

LOL I know. I was being ironical.

So was I. ;)

I'm also not one of those people who will try to tell someone what OS to use. It's personal preference for whatever you are trying to do on that system. I actually have both Linux and Windows systems here. :)


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Castle Rock BBS
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http://www.castlerockbbs.com
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The sparrows are flying again...

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Am 02.03.21 schrieb Atreyu@21:1/176 in FSX_BBS:

Hallo Atreyu,

I'm being thanked for running a 32-bit Windows system and not for being a super-duper Linux hacker wearing a hoodie staring at green zeros-and-ones trickling down the screen to the score of a techno-music soundtrack?

I'm using Linux wearing normal clothes and listening to rock/metal music,
but also with green on black screens :)

Regards,
Anna

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Thank you. I guess I just wasn't sure if the newer versions of Windows
64 bit still ran 32 bit programs.

Yes and you can run 16 bit programs with a hack out there BUT it is a lot easier to just run the 32 bit version and be done with it.

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