Anyway, I would like to know what others think of the possibilities.
I have been experimenting with NNCP (node to node copy - https://www.nncpgo.org) lately and was interested that it was not mentioned (at least on the message groups that my bbs has).
NNCP provides tools that allow for packet(file) transfers between and throug configured nodes. These packets are encrypted as security is one of the main goals of this protocol.
I have been experimenting with NNCP (node to node copy - https://www.nncpgo.org) lately and was interested that it was not mentioned (at least on the message groups that my bbs has).
Anyway, I would like to know what others think of the possibilities.
Why are we always trying to reinvent the wheel?
On paper, it looks like it could be a replacement/alternative for a binkd mailer.
I still wouldnt mind checking it out and playing with it - so if you
want to play too, let me know and I'll set up something with Hub 3.
I have been experimenting with NNCP (node to node copy -
https://www.nncpgo.org) lately and was interested that it was not
mentioned (at least on the message groups that my bbs has).
NNCP provides tools that allow for packet(file) transfers between and
throug configured nodes. These packets are encrypted as security is
one of the main goals of this protocol.
Why are we always trying to reinvent the wheel?
I have been experimenting with NNCP (node to node copy - https://www.nncpgo.org) lately and was interested that it was
not mentioned (at least on the message groups that my bbs has).
NNCP provides tools that allow for packet(file) transfers between and throug configured nodes. These packets are
encrypted as security is one of the main goals of this protocol.
Why are we always trying to reinvent the wheel?
Why are we always trying to reinvent the wheel?
Even basic Fidonet security is broken by design (packets, EMSI, binkp). NNCP has some nice new features and improvements
over UUCP / FTN / SMTP:
https://nncp.mirrors.quux.org/Comparison.html
I#M still not sure if it would be possible to replace FTN echomail with NNCP https://nncp.mirrors.quux.org/Multicast.html
Even basic Fidonet security is broken by design (packets, EMSI, binkp). NNCP has some nice new features and improvements over UUCP / FTN / SMTP: I#M still not sure if it would be possible to replace FTN echomail with NNCP https://nncp.mirrors.quux.org/Multicast.html
I still wouldnt mind checking it out and playing with it - so if you want to play too, let me know and I'll set up something with Hub 3.
I wondered that also, keep me posted perhaps we can set up some links between 1/100 and 3/100 to test stuff?
I#M still not sure if it would be possible to replace FTN echomail with NNCP https://nncp.mirrors.quux.org/Multicast.html
As a transport, I think it is great, but it's probably a bit niche - ie: you still need a binkd to talk to most systems, and I'm not sure there is
a nncp for all platforms that have a BBS on it (eg: dos, windows).
It's written in Go, so portability and support for cross-platform compilation is great for non-retro platforms. If you're still using Windows XP or running your BBS on DOS, Amiga or OS/2, you are stuck with older software. But Windows, Linux, *BSDs, OS X, Android, Plan9 should work.
On Monday, October 3rd Oli muttered...
It's written in Go, so portability and support for cross-platform
compilation is great for non-retro platforms. If you're still using
Windows XP or running your BBS on DOS, Amiga or OS/2, you are stuck
with older software. But Windows, Linux, *BSDs, OS X, Android,
Plan9 should work.
Man, they should have wrote it in Rust. It's so easy to make binaries for literally anything with that language.
Rewrite it in Rust has become a running gag.
Would Rust (cross-) compile for OS/2, DOS, Amiga?
Why not FreePascal or some other language that compiles to C? ;)
Why not FreePascal or some other language that compiles to C? ;)
FPC compiles to machine language, just like C does.
Re: NNCP
By: Oli to Exodus on Sun Oct 02 2022 12:17 pm
Hey Oli,
I#M still not sure if it would be possible to replace FTN echomail
with NNCP https://nncp.mirrors.quux.org/Multicast.html
I dont think so. A packet today is addressed to a node, so you cant send the same packet to multiple nodes :( A change in packet format could
allow that though...
You're normally interested in this stuff - would you use it instead of
tor or BINKPS?
Anyway, I think Go is perfect for network applications and building Go apps is easy. My user experience with building rust apps was not that great, but it was quite some time ago. Is it still slow?
I dont think so. A packet today is addressed to a node, so you cant send the same packet to multiple nodes :( A change in
packet format could
allow that though...
That would be a trivial change in the FTN packet format. But I guess it's simpler to replace only the binkp transport with NNCP.
And we also could use Netnews format (RFC 5536) with NNCP.
Maybe. I don't have any experience with NNCP and only read the documentation on the website and some blog posts. NNCP with
Yggdrasil might be a good replacement for binkp over Tor. I did compile the latest version on the Raspberry. So maybe we could
test it with some file transfers.
I wonder why the git repository is down. Can we trust the tar ball from Russia with all dependencies included or might it be
compromised? ;)
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