• [ansi] Visit Moe's Tavern

    From MIKE POWELL@21:4/10 to ALL on Saturday, November 12, 2022 09:48:00
    [ANSIART]
    @PAUSE@
    @POFF@
    `[?7h`[255D`[0;1mPLAY...

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  • From esc@21:4/173 to MIKE POWELL on Saturday, November 12, 2022 15:30:43
    [ANSIART]

    Hey, not sure what you intended to share here but none of the ansi codes came through so the post looked like gibberish :)

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 2022/07/11 (Linux/64)
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  • From Blue White@21:4/134 to esc on Sunday, November 13, 2022 09:16:05
    esc wrote to MIKE POWELL <=-

    [ANSIART]

    Hey, not sure what you intended to share here but none of the ansi
    codes came through so the post looked like gibberish :)

    The screen showed up and displays here in ANSI color. Maybe it is on your
    end? It is also in the wrong area, so maybe your system is set to
    (rightfully) not "do ANSI" for this area.


    ... How do you tell when you're out of invisible ink?
    --- MultiMail/DOS
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  • From ogg@21:2/147 to Blue White on Sunday, November 13, 2022 10:20:17
    On 13 Nov 2022, Blue White said the following...

    esc wrote to MIKE POWELL <=-

    [ANSIART]

    Hey, not sure what you intended to share here but none of the ansi codes came through so the post looked like gibberish :)

    The screen showed up and displays here in ANSI color. Maybe it is on
    your end? It is also in the wrong area, so maybe your system is set to (rightfully) not "do ANSI" for this area.


    So it's everyone else problem if your display doesn't render correctly?

    ogg
    Sysop, Altair IV BBS
    altairiv.ddns.com:2323

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 2022/07/15 (Windows/64)
    * Origin: Altair IV BBS (21:2/147)
  • From Mandarax@21:1/156 to Blue White on Sunday, November 13, 2022 12:48:20
    Hey, not sure what you intended to share here but none of the ansi codes came through so the post looked like gibberish :)
    The screen showed up and displays here in ANSI color. Maybe it is on
    your end? It is also in the wrong area, so maybe your system is set to (rightfully) not "do ANSI" for this area.

    It didn't render correctly for me either. Using Mystic, and checked that this message area was set to allow ANSI ? So not sure what the factor is on who see's the ANSI and who doesn't. I do see ANSI in other posts across the message bases just fine.


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    Kalamazoo, MI USA
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  • From Ganiman@21:3/174 to Blue White on Sunday, November 13, 2022 16:49:03
    Hey, not sure what you intended to share here but none of the ansi codes came through so the post looked like gibberish :)
    The screen showed up and displays here in ANSI color. Maybe it is on
    your end? It is also in the wrong area, so maybe your system is set to (rightfully) not "do ANSI" for this area.

    FWIW also came through as gibberish here as well.

    ---
    Ganiman
    bbs.madetoraid.com:[2323/2222]

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Made to Raid BBS (21:3/174)
  • From Blue White@21:4/134 to ogg on Monday, November 14, 2022 16:10:15
    ogg wrote to Blue White <=-

    On 13 Nov 2022, Blue White said the following...

    esc wrote to MIKE POWELL <=-

    [ANSIART]

    Hey, not sure what you intended to share here but none of the ansi codes came through so the post looked like gibberish :)

    The screen showed up and displays here in ANSI color. Maybe it is on
    your end? It is also in the wrong area, so maybe your system is set to (rightfully) not "do ANSI" for this area.


    So it's everyone else problem if your display doesn't render correctly?

    The screen shows up on *this BBS*, having transfered from the BBS it posted
    on, though the Net 4 hub, and then to *this BBS*. *This BBS* is not the
    one it was posted from, and *This BBS* does not run the same software that
    BBS does.

    So, yes, that would lead me to believe it is not my problem. :)

    One trend I do notice is that all the sysops who say it came through bad
    are running Mystic, so maybe there is something about the screen that
    causes problems for Mystic systems. <shrugs>


    ... Tell me, is something eluding you, Sunshine?
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  • From ogg@21:2/147 to Blue White on Monday, November 14, 2022 18:35:03
    causes problems for Mystic systems. <shrugs>
    Shrugs

    ogg
    Sysop, Altair IV BBS
    altairiv.ddns.com:2323

    ... If you can't make it good, make it LOOK good. -Bill Gates.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 2022/07/15 (Windows/64)
    * Origin: Altair IV BBS (21:2/147)
  • From Warpslide@21:3/110.1 to Blue White on Monday, November 14, 2022 19:34:30
    *** Quoting Blue White from a message to ogg ***

    One trend I do notice is that all the sysops who say it came through
    bad are running Mystic, so maybe there is something about the screen
    that causes problems for Mystic systems. <shrugs>

    It didn't render correctly either on my Telegard system. Here's how it
    looks on this end:

    https://ibb.co/MsBzL43

    Most ANSI BBS ads are displayed fine here, but this one didn't. It's almost
    as if the ANSI escape character was replaced with a `


    Jay

    ... RAM DISK is NOT an installation procedure!

    --- Telegard v3.09.g2-sp4/mL
    * Origin: Northern Realms | tg.nrbbs.net | 289-424-5180 (21:3/110.1)
  • From Digital Man to esc on Sunday, November 27, 2022 13:00:54
    Re: Re: [ansi] Visit Moe's Tavern
    By: esc to MIKE POWELL on Sat Nov 12 2022 03:30 pm

    [ANSIART]

    Hey, not sure what you intended to share here but none of the ansi codes came through so the post looked like gibberish :)

    Well, not really gibberish, just the ASCII ESC characters (27) have been replaced with backtick (ASCII 96) characters.

    I once had code in Synchronet to convert messages such as this one into ANSI upon display. 2 years ago, I removed that support with this commit:
    https://gitlab.synchro.net/main/sbbs/-/commit/f26b296b

    and the message:
    Removed the conversion of `[ and \xFA[ to \x1b[ in putmsg(). This unexplained output translation has been supported since at least v2.xx and I have no recollection of exactly why it was added. If I recall correctly, some BBS software at some point in time sent ANSI-encoded messages into message networks by translating the ESC (\x1b) character in the ANSI sequences to either ` or \xFA in the process. This "feature" seems like it would still work, but it's completely undocumented and I have no idea why it was added (and seriously doubt anyone relies on this behavior), so I'm removing it. If anyone misses this feature, I'll happily add it back, but I'm skeptical that'll happen.

    I would like to know more about the history of what/why these messages happen and I'll happily reconsider adding support back into Synchronet (perhaps just convert such messages upon import to actual ANSI sequences).
    --
    digital man (rob)

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  • From deon@21:2/116 to Digital Man on Monday, November 28, 2022 15:26:39
    Re: Re: [ansi] Visit Moe's Tavern
    By: Digital Man to esc on Sun Nov 27 2022 01:00 pm

    Hey DM,

    Well, not really gibberish, just the ASCII ESC characters (27) have been replaced with backtick (ASCII 96) characters.

    I once had code in Synchronet to convert messages such as this one into ANSI upon display. 2 years ago, I removed that support with this commit: https://gitlab.synchro.net/main/sbbs/-/commit/f26b296b

    Removed the conversion of `[ and \xFA[ to \x1b[ in putmsg(). This unexplained output translation has been supported since at least v2.xx and I have no recollection of exactly why it was added. If I recall correctly,

    I would like to know more about the history of what/why these messages happen and I'll happily reconsider adding support back into Synchronet (perhaps just convert such messages upon import to actual ANSI sequences).

    Does that you can revert it now, now that you know why it was there?

    (Just askin')


    ...δεσ∩
    --- SBBSecho 3.15-Linux
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  • From Digital Man to deon on Monday, November 28, 2022 12:46:08
    Re: Re: [ansi] Visit Moe's Tavern
    By: deon to Digital Man on Mon Nov 28 2022 03:26 pm

    I would like to know more about the history of what/why these messages happen and I'll happily reconsider adding support back into Synchronet (perhaps just convert such messages upon import to actual ANSI sequences).

    Does that you can revert it now, now that you know why it was there?

    (Just askin')

    I could, but I still don't know:
    1. what software is sending ANSI-encoded messages in this way (GT Power?) - and why?
    2. should the \xFA[ encoding also be supported (in addition to `[) - and if so, why?
    --
    digital man (rob)

    This Is Spinal Tap quote #38:
    Artie Fufkin: I'm not asking, I'm telling with this. Kick my ass.
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