i wish there were more positive storylines instead of people being kidnapped, dumped or people offing themselves.
Avon wrote to Matthew Munson <=-
On 15 Mar 2023 at 09:09p, Matthew Munson pondered and said...
I watched one show some years ago and the bad guy locked his ex girlfriends new boyfriend in their nuclear fallout shelter... that was
an interesting plot ;-p
claw wrote to Matthew Munson <=-
There are. They just won't run them. The media wants people to do
that and also want people to hate each other so much that when the time comes we fight each other easily.
i wish there were more positive storylines instead of people being
kidnapped, dumped or people offing themselves.
i wish there were more positive storylines instead of people being
kidnapped, dumped or people offing themselves.
People seem to get more enjoyment wallowing in other people's misery.
poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Avon <=-
There was a video a few years back of a family rushing to get all of
their stuff into a fallout shelter. The father holds the family off
with a gun, yelling that the more people in the shelter, the less time he'll survive. He forces them to stay out, opens the door, and all of
his friends are there with a "Happy Birthday" sign looking shocked.
i wish there were more positive storylines instead of people being kidnapped dumped or people offing themselves.
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he'll survive. He forces them to stay out, opens the door, and all of his friends are there with a "Happy Birthday" sign looking shocked.
That sounds somewhat similar to the TZ episode, "The Shelter." It starts with a birthday party, then the radio alert and sirens go off.
Adept wrote to Blue White <=-
But would be interesting if someone could track the video down. I
didn't see anything when doing a quick search on YouTube.
But would be interesting if someone could track the video down. I didn't see anything when doing a quick search on YouTube.
https://twitter.com/brianklaas/status/935418731001466881?lang=en
Adept wrote to Blue White <=-
he'll survive. He forces them to stay out, opens the door, and all of his friends are there with a "Happy Birthday" sign looking shocked.
That sounds somewhat similar to the TZ episode, "The Shelter." It starts with a birthday party, then the radio alert and sirens go off.
Maybe it _is_ from that?
It sounds like something that would've made for an entertaining
television show, or straight up urban legend.
But would be interesting if someone could track the video down. I
didn't see anything when doing a quick search on YouTube.
Quoting Arelor to Matthew Munson <=-
I have noticed there is a huge trend for creative stories to turn
darker, edgier and generally more hopeless.
I suspect this change of trends reflects the decline of our society at some primal level. I see it in my own writing. When I was young and
full of energy I wrote novels that were heroic, positive and
lighhearted. When life started punching me in the face I started sprinkling sour sauce on my tales. One's state of mind always reflects
on his creative work.
I have noticed there is a huge trend for creative stories to turn darker, edgier and generally more hopeless.
Science-Fiction used to be about discovering new technology, travelling to places nobody had visitied before and pushing ourselves to reach new
levels of awesome. Now it is about technology screwing us over, societies collapsing under their own weight, despots using new science to keep themselves in power.
Science-Fiction used to be about discovering new technology, travellin places nobody had visitied before and pushing ourselves to reach new levels of awesome. Now it is about technology screwing us over, societ collapsing under their own weight, despots using new science to keep themselves in power.
Sounds like what is happening in the real world, too.
I have noticed there is a huge trend for creative stories to turn darker, edgier and generally more hopeless.
It's the same for all entertainment these days unfortunately. Gone are
the days of entertainment that's reasonably family friendly with light hearted humor (think M*A*S*H for instance). Instead it's all sex, drugs, profanity and violence. If a show doesn't have the above it doesn't rate anymore. Perhaps I'm getting too old! ;)
I'm enjoying the fact that a show about the horrors of the Korean War is your example.
I think you missed my point, M*A*S*H and other shows of the era didn't rely on women having to get undressed and participate in raunchy sex scenes, there wasn't extreme violence shown, there wasn't expletive
laden dialog.
I was still entertained that you chose a show about the horrors of war.
You could've gone with Happy Days or Family Ties or something else in
the same era, rather than horrors of the Korean War.
In fact I did read the book that inspired M*A*S*H written by Dr. Apel who was a surgeon in a M*A*S*H unit during the war, quite a good read for anyone who enjoys the show.
"When North Korean forces invaded South Korea on June 25, 1950,
Otto Apel was a surgical resident living in Cleveland, Ohio,
with his wife and three young children. A year later he was
chief surgeon of the 8076th Mobile Army Surgical Hospital
constantly near the front lines in Korea. Immediately upon
I could have, but M*A*S*H is my all time favorite show and that's why I picked it, it can get a bit low with the realities of war but the acting and so forth is amazing.
And these "reality" shows, just annoy me to no end.
My god, I'm old!
I could have, but M*A*S*H is my all time favorite show and that's why I picked it, it can get a bit low with the realities of war but the acting and so forth is amazing.
I remember reading somewhere that the original creators of the show never wanted a laugh track, but CBS put their foot down and forced them to
have one.
Adept wrote to toofargone <=-
I'm enjoying the fact that a show about the horrors of the Korean War
is your example.
Though, yeah, the gore was probably unrealistic, as was their depiction
of the horrors.
I wouldn't say it was a _good_ movie, but certainly they're still
making things to appeal to those of us who want escapism rather than be confronted with difficult realities.
toofargone wrote to Adept <=-
And the final episode of M*A*S*H is still the most watched TV episode
in history! All without the gore of today's tv/movies/music ;)
toofargone wrote to Warpslide <=-
I'm not sure I could imagine the show without a laughing track. I'll
have to see if I can find one without.
I'm not a fan of modern shows, and there are only a few series I follow - mainly the early ones mash, hogans heroes, happy days etc.
I tried watching a hells kitchen episode, either the "cooks" are highly paid actors or they have more self control than I do. I'm surprised Ramsay didn't end up with a frypan over his head. I don't understand how people find that stuff entertaining...
And those shows like gogglebox where you watch people watching tv.... I just have no words for that...
One thing I don't like with most TV shows these days is they have story arcs that go the whole season, and each episode is just a small part in the season-long story. I suppose that has its upsides, but you can't
just watch any random episode of the show.
I like watching cooking competition shows sometimes. Dave Ramsey can be annoying though. It seems cooking competition shows are popular though, and there are others.
I haven't heard of that one..
I tried watching masterchef too but I don't particularly enjoy the contestants being nasty to each other, and I find the judges can be nasty in their judging. If it was all about the food, and constructive judging it would be great!
A couple that I've watched that I liked were The Great British Bake-Off (AKA The Great British Baking Show in the US) and Zumbo's Just Desserts (from Australia).
I tried watching a hells kitchen episode, either the "cooks" are highly paid actors or they have more self control than I do. I'm surprised Ramsay didn't end up with a frypan over his head. I don't understand how people
I tried watching a hells kitchen episode, either the "cooks" are
highly paid actors or they have more self control than I do. I'm
surprised Ramsay didn't end up with a frypan over his head. I don't
understand how people
Must be because of the cameras - you're right, he wouldn't survive a night talking to a real chef like he does.
Must be because of the cameras - you're right, he wouldn't survive a
night talking to a real chef like he does.
I imagine part of why he does that is theatrics, to make the show interesting.
I imagine part of why he does that is theatrics, to make the show
interesting.
Yeah it's pretty sad that hells kitchen is cutting edge entertainment these days.
It must be sad for him, he doesn't have any qualities that will appeal to people so he has to swear and abuse non stop for an hour to get the views.
That's probably why I prefer to watch older TV shows still. I like
*some* newer shows, but my wife and I still watch old re-runs from the
90's too. For new shows, we have been enjoying 'The Rookie' and the
'911' series (as silly as some of the episodes are). At least they don't seem so dark. I also prefer the previous Star Trek series like TNG,
Voyager, DS9 and even Enterprise. The Picard series is so dark and the language not so fitting for an "enlightened" people of the era. But, the
new Star Trek Strange New Worlds series is really good and back to an episodic format and much lighter than Picard.
"There were also the lighter moments. When a Korean came to
Someone took the very obvious laugh track out of "The Big Bang Theory",
and it becomes "let's belittle the obsessive-compulsive-guy theory". It
felt really dark.
Quoting Arelor to Elf <=-
I also tend to watch old shows and I haven t watched anything new in
ages.
If you compare the modern stuff with, let s say, My Friend Flipper or
Fury (The Story of a Horse and the Boy who loved Him) you can see there
is a lot of focus on having the kids take responsibility for their
actions and becoming a better version of themselves. "I let Flipper eat all the fish, so I have to man up and replace all the fish he ate!"
Arelor wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
Someone took the very obvious laugh track out of "The Big Bang Theory",
and it becomes "let's belittle the obsessive-compulsive-guy theory". It
felt really dark.
I haven t watched the show, but my understanding is that it is a
show about nerds for people who aren t nerds themselves.
I mention because my nerdish friends are always pissed off when
someboty tells them to watch The Big Bang THeory on the grounds
that they will like it because it is a nerd show.
Arelor wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
I mention because my nerdish friends are always pissed off when
someboty tells them to watch The Big Bang THeory on the grounds that
they will like it because it is a nerd show.
I like watching cooking competition shows sometimes. Dave Ramsey can be annoying though. It seems cooking competition shows are popular though, and there are others.
This talking about Korea has reminded me of Ltn. Reckless, the army
horse that hauled ammo and supplies without her human back and forth
after taking a battle wound. She liked scrambled eggs for breakfast.
I like watching cooking competition shows sometimes. Dave Ramsey
can be annoying though. It seems cooking competition shows are
popular though, and there are others.
I imagine Dave Ramsey can be annoying, but it'd be over how to live debt free, whereas Gordon Ramsey is the one who'll insult you in the kitchen.
Adept wrote to Nightfox <=-
But, as with most TV and radio personalities, they're probably
difficult to deal with in real life.
Suze Orman lived near me back in the 2000s. She used to stop at garage sales and berate the organizers, telling them they'd be better off donating the items and taking a write-off, then getting back in her
Lexus and driving off.
...at least she was _really_ staying on brand?
But, yeah, that sounds unpleasant. Sometimes people just want to have a garage sale. And maybe just make money by doing something honest and straightforward.
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