• SynchTerm Observation

    From Spectre@21:3/101 to Anyone on Thursday, April 28, 2022 08:36:00
    Hmm I can't see any particular reason for this. But I have observed the cut
    and paste issue in StinkTerm with Mystic. I use it generally quite happily
    for a number of systems TLP of course, and most others I've poked around in, and it'll do the highlight to copy and right click to paste business.. or at
    a pinch the scroll back buffer... but for a couple of Mystic systems it
    doesn't seem to want to.. steadfastly refuses copy and paste..

    Spec


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  • From The Millionaire to Spectre on Wednesday, April 27, 2022 16:36:55

    Hmm I can't see any particular reason for this. But I have observed the cut and paste issue in StinkTerm with Mystic. I use it generally quite happily for a number of systems TLP of course, and most others I've poked around in, and it'll do the highlight to copy and right click to paste business.. or at a pinch the scroll back buffer... but for a couple of Mystic systems it doesn't seem to want to.. steadfastly refuses copy and paste..

    Spec

    *** THE READER V4.50 [freeware]
    --- SuperBBS v1.17-3 (Eval)
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    If I were you, I'd send this to Sync Discussion and write to DM directly.

    $ The Millionaire $
  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to The Millionaire on Thursday, April 28, 2022 14:19:00
    If I were you, I'd send this to Sync Discussion and write to DM directly.

    Shrug, its merely a local observation at this point. But I'm also not near
    Sync Discussion, or Drunken Medusa whoever that might be...

    Spec


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  • From Nigel Reed@21:2/101 to Spectre on Thursday, April 28, 2022 01:38:46
    On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 08:36:00 +1000
    "Spectre" <spectre@21:3/101> wrote:

    Hmm I can't see any particular reason for this. But I have observed
    the cut and paste issue in StinkTerm with Mystic. I use it generally
    quite happily for a number of systems TLP of course, and most others
    I've poked around in, and it'll do the highlight to copy and right
    click to paste business.. or at a pinch the scroll back buffer... but
    for a couple of Mystic systems it doesn't seem to want to..
    steadfastly refuses copy and paste..

    Try pressing ALT-B to go into scrollback mode then highlight what you
    want and then press escape to get out of scrollback, then paste
    wherever.

    This is a known feature.
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  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to Nigel Reed on Thursday, April 28, 2022 19:20:00
    This is a known feature.

    Yeah, no its not... it only happens on a Mystic BBS, on other systems it performs as expected. It simply refuses to paste into the terminal at all... under normal circs I can copy and paste as expected on any other BBS..

    Spec


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  • From Gamgee@21:2/138 to Spectre on Thursday, April 28, 2022 07:27:00
    Spectre wrote to Nigel Reed <=-

    This is a known feature.

    Yeah, no its not... it only happens on a Mystic BBS, on other
    systems it performs as expected. It simply refuses to paste into
    the terminal at all... under normal circs I can copy and paste as
    expected on any other BBS..

    So...., sounds like an issue with Mystic, not SyncTerm.



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  • From Andre@21:3/117 to Spectre on Thursday, April 28, 2022 09:28:54
    Shrug, its merely a local observation at this point. But I'm also not near Sync Discussion, or Drunken Medusa whoever that might be...

    DigitalMan doesn't maintain it anyway... Deuce does, AFAIK.

    Submit a bug here:
    https://sourceforge.net/p/syncterm/tickets/


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  • From Nightfox@21:1/137 to Spectre on Thursday, April 28, 2022 08:40:40
    Re: SynchTerm Observation
    By: Spectre to The Millionaire on Thu Apr 28 2022 02:19 pm

    If I were you, I'd send this to Sync Discussion and write to DM
    directly.

    Shrug, its merely a local observation at this point. But I'm also not near Sync Discussion, or Drunken Medusa whoever that might be...

    You could easily connect to Vertrauen (home of Synchronet) or any other BBS that carries Dove-Net for Sync Discussion. Also I'm not sure where you got "Drunken Medusa" from.. DM stands for Digital Man (author of Synchronet).

    Nightfox
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  • From echicken@21:1/164 to Spectre on Thursday, April 28, 2022 18:03:01
    Re: SynchTerm Observation
    By: Spectre to The Millionaire on Thu Apr 28 2022 14:19:00

    If I were you, I'd send this to Sync Discussion and write to DM
    directly.

    Shrug, its merely a local observation at this point. But I'm also not near Sync Discussion, or Drunken Medusa whoever that might be...

    It's bad advice anyhow, since Digital Man is not the developer of SyncTERM. You'd be better off reaching out to Deuce via the bug report instructions at https://syncterm.bbsdev.net/.

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  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to Nightfox on Friday, April 29, 2022 07:10:00
    Shrug, its merely a local observation at this point. But I'm also not
    near Sync Discussion, or Drunken Medusa whoever that might be...

    You could easily connect to Vertrauen (home of Synchronet) or any other

    Well yes, yes I could.. but I'm more interested in seeing if anyone else has noticed this same foible. It might all be my fevered imagination and someone can disabuse me of it.

    BBS that carries Dove-Net for Sync Discussion. Also I'm not sure where you got "Drunken Medusa" from.. DM stands for Digital Man (author of Synchronet).

    Drunken Medusa is what you get when you assume someone knows a DM other than Danger Mouse. :)

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  • From Warpslide@21:3/110 to Spectre on Thursday, April 28, 2022 18:04:38
    On 28 Apr 2022, Spectre said the following...

    Yeah, no its not... it only happens on a Mystic BBS, on other systems it performs as expected. It simply refuses to paste into the terminal at all... under normal circs I can copy and paste as expected on any other BBS..

    That's been my experience as well. I switched back to SyncTerm 1.0 for awhile and then settled on NetRunner instead which works as expected.

    If you're using Windows the "prealpha" versions work quite well:

    http://mysticbbs.com/downloads/prealpha/nr_w32.rar http://mysticbbs.com/downloads/prealpha/nr_w64.rar


    Jay

    ... Whosoever diggeth a pit shall falleth therein.

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  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to Warpslide on Friday, April 29, 2022 08:49:00
    That's been my experience as well. I switched back to SyncTerm 1.0 for awhile and then settled on NetRunner instead which works as expected.

    Huh, so its not just me. I didn't pay much attention to it originally.. but noticed it only seems to happen to Mystic. I've been using a v1.1 without to much issue. To be honest its probably not a big enough problem to be a deal breaker for me, it otherwise works well.

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  • From Wall E. Weasel@21:2/121 to Spectre on Thursday, April 28, 2022 20:47:00
    Spectre wrote to Nigel Reed <=-

    This is a known feature.

    Yeah, no its not... it only happens on a Mystic BBS, on other systems
    it performs as expected. It simply refuses to paste into the terminal
    at all... under normal circs I can copy and paste as expected on any
    other BBS..

    Yeah, I'm afraid it is. It may just be coincidence that it's only happening for you on Mystic systems, or perhaps Mystic does something which provokes the bug more often. but it can and DOES surface on any BBS software. As was stated, it's a known bug and has been for quite a long while.

    The Alt-B scrollback trick mentioned usually wakes the client up when this bug is occurring. You don't need to stay in scrollback to mark and copy. Simply bring up the scrollback buffer, press ESC to return, and you'll see the cursor change format. That indicates it will now work normally.

    Shift-Insert will always paste into the terminal even when right clicking does not work.
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  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to Wall E. Weasel on Friday, April 29, 2022 16:14:00
    This is a known feature.

    Yeah, no its not... it only happens on a Mystic BBS, on other systems

    Yeah, I'm afraid it is. It may just be coincidence that it's only happening for you on Mystic systems, or perhaps Mystic does something

    Not with you there... the regular form is, it never works, get a different version. This is 95%+ of the time it works as expected. I don't call many Mystic systems so it took a while to figure out what it was doing, but it's 100% only with mystic systems it fails.

    I can conceivably see a variation in the OS you're runnning it on, although that leaves me perplexed as to why Mystic. Does its author not like Mystic?
    At this point I dunno, there's one other mention of the same behaviour.. so
    I'm thinking there's something to it.

    At this point I'm just about done with it. For my purposes it works enough, I'm also not interested enough to go and chase down danger mouse or the two
    of spades and raise an issue, it was only for interests sake.

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