• Website Testing

    From apam@21:1/182.1 to all on Wednesday, July 06, 2022 17:38:17
    You might remember sometime ago (late last year) I asked if people could
    visit a test page to help me test the TCP/IP stack for my OS.

    Well, I'm back at it, and have redone the TCP part, and I'm hoping people
    could load up the website so I can see if it breaks..

    it's at http://positronicbrain.net:8080/

    I fully expect it will crash at some point, it might be slow (partly due
    to hosting at home, partly because the OS itself is slow) but it is
    working at present.

    If it does crash, and I'm not looking it might be a while before I
    restart it, so if it doesn't load anything - don't worry :)

    Oh, I did test on a proxy web site, and it loaded - the top image took
    ages, but it loaded. I'm sitting on 27Mb / 1019Mb RAM used (not too
    bad).. it will be interesting to see if the sockets close properly and
    each connection cleans up after itself.

    Andrew


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  • From boraxman@21:1/101 to apam on Wednesday, July 06, 2022 20:44:10
    You might remember sometime ago (late last year) I asked if people could visit a test page to help me test the TCP/IP stack for my OS.

    Well, I'm back at it, and have redone the TCP part, and I'm hoping people could load up the website so I can see if it breaks..

    it's at http://positronicbrain.net:8080/

    I fully expect it will crash at some point, it might be slow (partly due to hosting at home, partly because the OS itself is slow) but it is working at present.

    If it does crash, and I'm not looking it might be a while before I
    restart it, so if it doesn't load anything - don't worry :)

    Oh, I did test on a proxy web site, and it loaded - the top image took ages, but it loaded. I'm sitting on 27Mb / 1019Mb RAM used (not too
    bad).. it will be interesting to see if the sockets close properly and each connection cleans up after itself.

    Andrew


    The first time I tried I get a network timeout. I tried immediately after that, then the page loaded instantly. Oddly, the image at the top, the purple one of the clown with "quinn" on it would either not load, or load and then disappear!

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  • From Zip@21:1/202 to apam on Wednesday, July 06, 2022 10:50:06
    Hello apam!

    On 06 Jul 2022, apam said the following...
    Well, I'm back at it, and have redone the TCP part, and I'm hoping people could load up the website so I can see if it breaks..

    it's at http://positronicbrain.net:8080/

    Works fine! The image takes some time to load, but other than that all looks good!

    Best regards
    Zip

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  • From deon@21:2/116 to apam on Wednesday, July 06, 2022 20:20:23
    Re: Website Testing
    By: apam to all on Wed Jul 06 2022 05:38 pm

    Well, I'm back at it, and have redone the TCP part, and I'm hoping people could load up the website so I can see if it breaks..

    it's at http://positronicbrain.net:8080/

    I fully expect it will crash at some point, it might be slow (partly due
    to hosting at home, partly because the OS itself is slow) but it is
    working at present.

    Howdy,

    It is a bit slow. Strangely in the browser you saw "something" quite quickly, but with curl not so:

    [deon@c-8-1 ~]$ time curl http://positronicbrain.net:8080
    ...
    real 0m18.751s
    user 0m0.006s
    sys 0m0.003s


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  • From TALIADON@21:3/138 to apam on Wednesday, July 06, 2022 11:35:26
    Well, I'm back at it, and have redone the TCP part, and I'm hoping people could load up the website so I can see if it breaks..

    it's at http://positronicbrain.net:8080/

    Well, it hasn't crashed as of yet - still going strong :)

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  • From apam@21:1/182.1 to deon on Wednesday, July 06, 2022 20:46:00
    It is a bit slow. Strangely in the browser you saw "something" quite quickly, but with curl not so:

    Yes, it is a bit slow. Though, odd that you got 18 seconds to load the
    index page. I really need to learn more about TCP, I suspect it has
    something to do with packets arriving out of order.

    [deon@c-8-1 ~]$ time curl http://positronicbrain.net:8080
    ...
    real 0m18.751s

    For me, this was about 0.2 seconds.

    Andrew

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  • From apam@21:1/182.1 to Zip on Wednesday, July 06, 2022 20:46:26
    Works fine! The image takes some time to load, but other than that all
    looks good!

    Thanks zip!


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  • From apam@21:1/182.1 to boraxman on Wednesday, July 06, 2022 20:49:00
    The first time I tried I get a network timeout. I tried immediately
    after that, then the page loaded instantly. Oddly, the image at the
    top, the purple one of the clown with "quinn" on it would either not
    load, or load and then disappear!

    Thankyou.

    loading and then disappearing is quiet odd.

    Andrew

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  • From apam@21:1/182.1 to TALIADON on Wednesday, July 06, 2022 20:51:28
    Well, it hasn't crashed as of yet - still going strong :)

    Thanks!

    Yep, I've restarted it a couple of times (not due to crashes, but I made
    some changes)

    I'll leave it going overnight and see what happens, the bots scanning
    ports might give me some interesting results :)

    Andrew


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  • From deon@21:2/116 to apam on Wednesday, July 06, 2022 21:16:39
    Re: Website Testing
    By: apam to deon on Wed Jul 06 2022 08:46 pm

    index page. I really need to learn more about TCP, I suspect it has something to do with packets arriving out of order.

    [deon@c-8-1 ~]$ time curl http://positronicbrain.net:8080
    ...
    real 0m18.751s

    For me, this was about 0.2 seconds.

    Hmm.. So I tested from my laptop it too is about 0.2s. But from my server it varies between 16-20s...

    I checked some other websites, and they are all sub <0.5s so confused...

    So it might be me...


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  • From Al@21:4/106 to deon on Wednesday, July 06, 2022 05:28:44
    [deon@c-8-1 ~]$ time curl http://positronicbrain.net:8080
    ...
    real 0m18.751s

    For me, this was about 0.2 seconds.

    Hmm.. So I tested from my laptop it too is about 0.2s. But from my server it varies between 16-20s...

    I checked some other websites, and they are all sub <0.5s so confused...

    So it might be me...

    It's me also. I didn't time it but from my firefox it took about that amount of time (18secs) to load the page. I'll try again later when I get home but that's what I am seeing here.

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  • From Zip@21:1/202 to apam on Wednesday, July 06, 2022 15:31:57
    Hello apam!

    On 06 Jul 2022, apam said the following...
    loading and then disappearing is quiet odd.

    Could it be that the web browser shows the image as it is received, then the connection/transfer is interrupted in some way, and the web browser determines that the image is not complete (i.e. broken), so hides it? And maybe shows some cross or something to indicate that the image is broken.

    Best regards
    Zip

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  • From seeLive@21:2/128 to apam on Wednesday, July 06, 2022 13:21:45
    You might remember sometime ago (late last year) I asked if people could visit a test page to help me test the TCP/IP stack for my OS.

    it's at http://positronicbrain.net:8080/

    Hey apam, Are you routing ipv6 by any chance? I'm getting timeouts when connecting to your site just like when I was having ipv6 issues... just a thought...

    Re-livin' the dream...

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  • From 2twisty@21:3/166 to apam on Wednesday, July 06, 2022 12:30:59
    Well, I'm back at it, and have redone the TCP part, and I'm hoping people could load up the website so I can see if it breaks..

    it's at http://positronicbrain.net:8080/

    As of 6 Jul 2022, 12:30MDT (GMT-6), I get no response from the server.

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  • From claw@21:1/210 to apam on Wednesday, July 06, 2022 18:03:16
    On 06 Jul 2022, apam said the following...

    You might remember sometime ago (late last year) I asked if people could visit a test page to help me test the TCP/IP stack for my OS.

    Well, I'm back at it, and have redone the TCP part, and I'm hoping people could load up the website so I can see if it breaks..

    it's at http://positronicbrain.net:8080/

    I fully expect it will crash at some point, it might be slow (partly due to hosting at home, partly because the OS itself is slow) but it is working at present.

    If it does crash, and I'm not looking it might be a while before I
    restart it, so if it doesn't load anything - don't worry :)

    Oh, I did test on a proxy web site, and it loaded - the top image took ages, but it loaded. I'm sitting on 27Mb / 1019Mb RAM used (not too
    bad).. it will be interesting to see if the sockets close properly and each connection cleans up after itself.

    Andrew

    Didn't even load

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  • From apam@21:1/182.1 to claw on Thursday, July 07, 2022 09:22:17
    Didn't even load

    Thanks for testing, last night I added a keep alive function, and forgot
    to add a check to see if the socket was connected... so the listening
    socket got closed sometime last night.

    That's my theory anyway, as the os hadn't crashed.

    It's back up and running, now. I'll leave it going for a while and see
    what happens :)

    Andrew


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  • From apam@21:1/182.1 to seeLive on Thursday, July 07, 2022 09:23:16
    Hey apam, Are you routing ipv6 by any chance? I'm getting timeouts
    when
    connecting to your site just like when I was having ipv6 issues...
    just a thought...

    No, no ipv6 here.

    I think it was probably the closed listening socket I mentioned to
    DrClaw, though, it could have just been timing out too.

    Andrew


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  • From Apam@21:1/182 to 2twisty on Thursday, July 07, 2022 09:35:33
    Re: Re: Website Testing
    By: 2twisty to apam on Wed Jul 06 2022 12:30 pm

    As of 6 Jul 2022, 12:30MDT (GMT-6), I get no response from the server.

    Thankyou!
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  • From Nigel Reed@21:2/101 to apam on Thursday, July 07, 2022 01:33:59
    On Wed, 6 Jul 2022 17:38:17 +1000
    "apam" <apam@21:1/182.1> wrote:

    You might remember sometime ago (late last year) I asked if people
    could visit a test page to help me test the TCP/IP stack for my OS.

    Well, I'm back at it, and have redone the TCP part, and I'm hoping
    people could load up the website so I can see if it breaks..

    it's at http://positronicbrain.net:8080/

    I fully expect it will crash at some point, it might be slow (partly
    due to hosting at home, partly because the OS itself is slow) but it
    is working at present.

    If it does crash, and I'm not looking it might be a while before I
    restart it, so if it doesn't load anything - don't worry :)

    Oh, I did test on a proxy web site, and it loaded - the top image took
    ages, but it loaded. I'm sitting on 27Mb / 1019Mb RAM used (not too
    bad).. it will be interesting to see if the sockets close properly
    and each connection cleans up after itself.

    It works here, though it's slow...like I'm using a 1200 baud modem with
    PPP and viewing with Cello.

    and it only seems to link back to itself, otherwise, seems ok.
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  • From Apam@21:1/182 to Nigel Reed on Thursday, July 07, 2022 19:41:16
    Re: Re: Website Testing
    By: Nigel Reed to apam on Thu Jul 07 2022 01:33 am

    It works here, though it's slow...like I'm using a 1200 baud modem with PPP and viewing with Cello.

    Very descriptive.

    and it only seems to link back to itself, otherwise, seems ok.

    That is odd, it should link to another page. (similar domain but different port).

    Thanks.

    Andrew
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  • From Apam@21:1/182 to deon on Thursday, July 07, 2022 22:05:01
    Re: Website Testing
    By: deon to apam on Wed Jul 06 2022 09:16 pm

    Hmm.. So I tested from my laptop it too is about 0.2s. But from my server it varies between 16-20s...

    Where abouts is your server located?

    I did find a bug today where I wasn't closing the TCP session correctly, which I've since fixed. I don't know if that would have caused it to hang. Does curl show you the data as it arrives? as it would be interesting to see if the hang is at the start or the end, or if it's evenly slow.

    Thanks again for helping me test. I'm leaving it running for the time being to see if it will crash, or at least stop responding since i fixed that keepalive thing. With everyone here who's tested plus the port scanners, it's been good.

    Andrew
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  • From deon@21:2/116 to Apam on Thursday, July 07, 2022 22:15:42
    Re: Website Testing
    By: Apam to deon on Thu Jul 07 2022 10:05 pm

    Howdy,

    Where abouts is your server located?

    At home - same place as my laptop (which is why it is odd)...

    I did find a bug today where I wasn't closing the TCP session correctly, which I've since fixed. I don't know if that would have
    caused it to hang. Does curl show you the data as it arrives? as it would be interesting to see if the hang is at the start or
    the end, or if it's evenly slow.

    No, curl only shows the output after it arrives - but normally it should be quick because its one TCP connection and results in the raw HTML (so no connections to get the images, style sheets, javascript, etc).

    Even if I just do a HEAD request, it was slow.

    [deon@c-8-1 ~]$ time curl -I http://positronicbrain.net:8080
    HTTP/1.1 200 OK
    Server: Mite/0.4-QUINN
    Connection: close
    Content-Type: text/html
    Content-Length: 1055
    real 0m20.232s
    user 0m0.004s
    sys 0m0.004s
    [deon@c-8-1 ~]$

    I actually think it might be something with my firewall (but then it should affect my laptop - which is why its confusing). My laptop does it quicker:

    ╰─$ time curl -I http://positronicbrain.net:8080
    HTTP/1.1 200 OK
    Server: Mite/0.4-QUINN
    Connection: close
    Content-Type: text/html
    Content-Length: 1055
    curl -I http://positronicbrain.net:8080 0.00s user 0.02s system 0% cpu 3.065 total

    On an unrelated note - I've noticed when I copying/pasting from a terminal into Magiterm (ie: the above), it pasted as one long line, not several lines as it is... Not sure if that is fixible?


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  • From Warpslide@21:3/110.2 to apam on Thursday, July 07, 2022 08:47:54
    *** Quoting apam from a message to all ***

    Well, I'm back at it, and have redone the TCP part, and I'm hoping
    people could load up the website so I can see if it breaks..
    it's at http://positronicbrain.net:8080/

    Works from this hemisphere:

    https://imgur.com/a/K74pxc7

    I fully expect it will crash at some point, it might be slow (partly
    due to hosting at home, partly because the OS itself is slow) but it
    is working at present.

    Reminds me of the early days of dial-up internet watching progressive jpgs load, but not unbearable. Good job! :)


    Jay

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  • From claw@21:1/210 to apam on Thursday, July 07, 2022 07:53:04
    On 07 Jul 2022, apam said the following...
    Thanks for testing, last night I added a keep alive function, and forgot to add a check to see if the socket was connected... so the listening socket got closed sometime last night.

    That's my theory anyway, as the os hadn't crashed.

    It's back up and running, now. I'll leave it going for a while and see what happens :)

    Andrew

    I didn't save the site what was it again?

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  • From fusion@21:1/616 to Warpslide on Thursday, July 07, 2022 17:45:44
    On 07 Jul 2022, Warpslide said the following...

    Reminds me of the early days of dial-up internet watching progressive
    jpgs load, but not unbearable. Good job! :)

    oh man.. i still occasionally find sites with 100mb BMP files on their front page. can usually tell because they appear to load from the left or the bottom and do so veeeeerrrryyy slllooowwww hehe

    Alex

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  • From Apam@21:1/182 to Warpslide on Friday, July 08, 2022 11:26:00
    On Thu Jul 7 08:47:00 2022, Warpslide wrote to apam <=-

    *** Quoting apam from a message to all ***

    Well, I'm back at it, and have redone the TCP part, and I'm hoping people could load up the website so I can see if it breaks..
    it's at http://positronicbrain.net:8080/

    Works from this hemisphere:

    https://imgur.com/a/K74pxc7

    Thankyou for doing that, it's helpful to see what you're seeing.

    Reminds me of the early days of dial-up internet watching progressive jpgs load, but not unbearable. Good job! :)

    Hehe, now I'll just add some video advertisements and popups :)

    Andrew

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  • From Warpslide@21:3/110.2 to Apam on Friday, July 08, 2022 08:23:18
    *** Quoting Apam from a message to Warpslide ***

    On Thu Jul 7 08:47:00 2022, Warpslide wrote to apam <=-

    Hehe, now I'll just add some video advertisements and popups :)

    Don't forget the "under construction" animated gif! ;)


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  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to deon on Tuesday, July 12, 2022 10:03:00
    Even if I just do a HEAD request, it was slow.

    [deon@c-8-1 ~]$ time curl -I http://positronicbrain.net:8080 HTTP/1.1

    If I steal your cmd I see a fast response on my bustedbutt half arsed buntu server... Just for reference it has ipv6 completely disabled.

    Server: Mite/0.4-QUINN
    Connection: close
    Content-Type: text/html
    Content-Length: 1043


    real 0m1.274s
    user 0m0.008s
    sys 0m0.004s

    I see I'm still travelling 5 days behind in messages so this could be complerely irrelevant now.

    Spec


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  • From Apam@21:1/182 to Spectre on Tuesday, July 12, 2022 11:28:00
    On Tue Jul 12 10:03:00 2022, Spectre wrote to deon <=-

    Even if I just do a HEAD request, it was slow.

    [deon@c-8-1 ~]$ time curl -I http://positronicbrain.net:8080 HTTP/1.1

    If I steal your cmd I see a fast response on my bustedbutt half arsed buntu server... Just for reference it has ipv6 completely disabled.

    Thanks! I think I saw your connection (I'm working on it at present, and the bots don't use HEAD)

    Yeah, no ipv6 support yet, and I don't think iinet gives us IPv6 anyway... which is a pain.

    I see I'm still travelling 5 days behind in messages so this could be complerely irrelevant now.

    Still useful, thanks.

    Andrew

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