• Testing

    From apam@21:1/182.1 to deon on Wednesday, July 20, 2022 15:08:23
    Hey

    If you get a chance today or tonight, can you retest my server? The test
    you did that was really slow (I think it was from your server)

    I've been debugging and found some pretty big bugs in the IP
    fragmentation reassembaly stuff, I don't know if fixing these bugs will
    fix the slowness some people got, but I'm curious..

    I'll leave the server running (it may crash before you get a chance, and
    I'm going to be fairly busy the next couple of days, so if it doesn't
    respond, don't worry.)

    http://positronicbrain.net:8080/

    Andrew


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  • From deon@21:2/116 to apam on Wednesday, July 20, 2022 20:37:43
    Re: Testing
    By: apam to deon on Wed Jul 20 2022 03:08 pm

    If you get a chance today or tonight, can you retest my server? The test
    you did that was really slow (I think it was from your server)

    I'll leave the server running (it may crash before you get a chance, and
    I'm going to be fairly busy the next couple of days, so if it doesn't respond, don't worry.)

    http://positronicbrain.net:8080/

    So yeah, I'm very sure my delay problems are at my end, and I think I've figured out why (or rather a possible reason).

    I use DNS64 at home, so my DNS returns IPv4 addresses as an IPv6, which then routes out to my NAT64 gateway, where it speaks one side to my server with IPv6, and to the other side (the outbound leg) is done over IPv4.

    The latency is quite bad to your server though. IE: If I do my time curl -I ... to another IPv4 host (I chose nab.com.au), its about 6 seconds (which is still bad as I think about it) - but to your server its 20 seconds.

    I dont think there is anything you need to fix at your end - but its good to hear you found somethings to fix anyway :)



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  • From Apam@21:1/182 to deon on Wednesday, July 20, 2022 20:53:00
    On Wed July 20 20:37:00 2022, deon wrote to apam <=-

    So yeah, I'm very sure my delay problems are at my end, and I think I've figured out why (or rather a possible reason).

    I use DNS64 at home, so my DNS returns IPv4 addresses as an IPv6, which then routes out to my NAT64 gateway, where it speaks one side to my server with IPv6, and to the other side (the outbound leg) is done over IPv4.

    Ah ok.

    The latency is quite bad to your server though. IE: If I do my time curl -I ... to another IPv4 host (I chose nab.com.au), its about 6 seconds (which is still bad as I think about it) - but to your server its 20 seconds.

    Hmm, yeah, I imagine theres probably a combination of things going on.

    I dont think there is anything you need to fix at your end - but its good to hear you found somethings to fix anyway :)

    Ohh, there is plenty to fix ;P

    Thankyou very much for doing a test. I was worried it was going to be crashed when you tried, but I just restarted it then a couple of minutes later saw your HEAD requests come through.

    Found a few bugs today, the IPv4 bug I was mistakenly copying memory of a packet using the size without byteswapping it first. That was a tough one because it only happened when packets were fragmented - which it seems happens randomly at different times, I was convinced the bug was in my filesystem code... but nope.

    Ah well, thanks again!

    Andrew

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  • From TassieBob@21:3/169 to deon on Wednesday, July 20, 2022 22:11:42
    http://positronicbrain.net:8080/

    The latency is quite bad to your server though.

    Hmmm... traceroute?

    I see about 46ms from here, taking a mildly scenic route via Adelaide thanks to TPG's very selective peering. Once my dance with COVID is done I might look at applying some filters there to make that more direct.

    ... to another IPv4 host (I chose nab.com.au), its about 6 seconds
    (which is still bad as I think about it) - but to your server its 20 seconds.

    Yar, OK, 6 seconds to NAB and 20 seconds to positronicbrain.net sounds like something happening at a higher layer.


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  • From deon@21:2/116 to TassieBob on Thursday, July 21, 2022 13:59:21
    Re: Testing
    By: TassieBob to deon on Wed Jul 20 2022 10:11 pm

    ... to another IPv4 host (I chose nab.com.au), its about 6 seconds (which is still bad as I think about it) - but to your server its 20 seconds.

    Yar, OK, 6 seconds to NAB and 20 seconds to positronicbrain.net sounds like something happening at a higher layer.

    Yeah, I wonder if my nat64 is fragmenting packets somehow, that some where upstream they are arriving in different orders? Unless its the distance, with some link between Melbourne and apam having a dodgy or overloaded router?

    That said, when I talk to apam over IPv4 directly, its sub 1 second so maybe its not link related, but MTU related on my end because of NAT64. Must admist I havent looked at it in detail, and I'm not noticing too much issue anyway (while talking with other websites).


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  • From Apam@21:1/182 to deon on Thursday, July 21, 2022 15:07:00
    Yeah, I wonder if my nat64 is fragmenting packets somehow, that some where upstream they are arriving in different orders? Unless its the distance, with some link between Melbourne and apam having a dodgy or overloaded router?

    If it's fragmenting packets, it's probably almost certainly my OS - I found another bug in the IP fragmentation handling just now. I use OPNsense for a router, so I doubt that's it, though I guess it could be one somewhere between.. however, my spidey sense tells me that it's mostly likely caused by the novice hobby OS developer rather than talented network engineers using tried and true OSes :P

    That said, when I talk to apam over IPv4 directly, its sub 1 second so maybe its not link related, but MTU related on my end because of NAT64. Must admist I havent looked at it in detail, and I'm not noticing too much issue anyway (while talking with other websites).

    If you want to do a test with my nginx server, it's on HTTPS, on the same domain - it's running a wordpress site for my BBS, so I guess not an ideal comparison, but close enough :P

    Andrew

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  • From TassieBob@21:3/169 to Apam on Thursday, July 21, 2022 17:01:18

    by the novice hobby OS developer rather than talented network
    engineers using tried and true OSes :P

    I reckon it's awesome what you're doing - if only there were 48 hours in a day :-(


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  • From deon@21:2/116 to Apam on Thursday, July 21, 2022 20:43:28
    Re: Testing
    By: Apam to deon on Thu Jul 21 2022 03:07 pm

    If you want to do a test with my nginx server, it's on HTTPS, on the same domain - it's running a wordpress site for my BBS, so I guess not an
    ideal comparison, but close enough :P

    So, much better :)

    [deon@c-8-1 ~]$ time curl -I https://positronicbrain.net
    HTTP/1.1 200 OK
    Server: nginx/1.18.0
    Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2022 10:38:58 GMT
    Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8
    Connection: keep-alive
    Link: <https://positronicbrain.net/wp-json/>; rel="https://api.w.org/"
    Link: <https://positronicbrain.net/wp-json/wp/v2/pages/69>; rel="alternate"; type="application/json"
    Link: <https://positronicbrain.net/>; rel=shortlink


    real 0m8.313s
    user 0m0.012s
    sys 0m0.003s

    [deon@c-8-1 ~]$ time curl -I http://positronicbrain.net:8080
    HTTP/1.1 200 OK
    Server: Mite/0.4-QUINN
    Connection: close
    Content-Type: text/html
    Content-Length: 967


    real 0m18.492s
    user 0m0.006s
    sys 0m0.006s



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  • From Thraka@21:1/999 to All on Wednesday, August 31, 2022 12:13:39
    Let's get this going! WoOhOo!

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  • From Adept@21:2/108 to Thraka on Wednesday, August 31, 2022 19:50:52
    Let's get this going! WoOhOo!

    Welcome! Now hopefully you get your own address before the next person comes along to take messages from 21:1/999.

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  • From Nightfox@21:1/137 to Thraka on Wednesday, August 31, 2022 12:58:26
    Re: Testing
    By: Thraka to All on Wed Aug 31 2022 12:13 pm

    Let's get this going! WoOhOo!

    I got it here.

    Nightfox
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  • From MissChief@21:2/125 to Thraka on Wednesday, August 31, 2022 13:04:29
    Let's get this going! WoOhOo!

    ... Youth is glorious, but it isn't a career

    Got it here.

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  • From Thraka@21:1/999 to MissChief on Wednesday, August 31, 2022 14:37:05
    Thank you and everyone else. I think I got it figured out :) Off to apply for my own node now. Cheers!

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  • From esc@21:4/173 to Thraka on Wednesday, August 31, 2022 16:36:17
    On 31 Aug 2022, Thraka said the following...

    Let's get this going! WoOhOo!


    Gotcha!

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  • From claw@21:1/210 to Thraka on Thursday, September 01, 2022 07:53:13
    On 31 Aug 2022, Thraka said the following...

    Thank you and everyone else. I think I got it figured out :) Off to
    apply for my own node now. Cheers!


    Which networks?

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    |20|15fsxNet/MRC Chat/Registered Doors!/50Nodes/No Time Use! Stay On!|16|07

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  • From Thraka@21:1/999 to claw on Thursday, September 01, 2022 07:58:20
    On 01 Sep 2022, claw said the following...

    On 31 Aug 2022, Thraka said the following...

    Thank you and everyone else. I think I got it figured out :) Off to apply for my own node now. Cheers!


    Which networks?

    FSXNET I guess. I'm still figuring everything out, so it's the only thing I've investigated so far.

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  • From MissChief@21:2/125 to Thraka on Thursday, September 01, 2022 08:22:59
    Which networks?
    FSXNET I guess. I'm still figuring everything out, so it's the only
    thing I've investigated so far.

    It's the best one by far if you're looking for one with active users. Next would be Dove-Net then FidoNet.

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  • From Zip@21:1/202 to Thraka on Thursday, September 01, 2022 18:11:12
    Hello Thraka!

    On 31 Aug 2022, Thraka said the following...

    Let's get this going! WoOhOo!

    ... Youth is glorious, but it isn't a career

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    Got you here! Welcome! =)

    Best regards
    Zip

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  • From Irish_Monk@21:4/184 to Thraka on Thursday, September 01, 2022 17:43:29
    FSXNET I guess. I'm still figuring everything out, so it's the only
    thing I've investigated so far.

    If you need anything, just ask, I just went thru setting up FSXNET with Mystic BBS, but it looks like you got it!!

    |10I|02rish_|10M|02onk

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  • From Beepsy@21:1/999 to All on Saturday, November 12, 2022 19:05:08
    This is a test of my new BBS setup. Thanks to Avon for his excellent video tutorials.

    Beepsy

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  • From Mandarax@21:1/156 to Beepsy on Saturday, November 12, 2022 21:53:05
    This is a test of my new BBS setup. Thanks to Avon for his excellent video tutorials.

    Welcome! Seems to be posting just fine. Nice to have you!


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    Kalamazoo, MI USA
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  • From Ganiman@21:3/174 to Beepsy on Sunday, November 13, 2022 02:49:27
    This is a test of my new BBS setup. Thanks to Avon for his excellent video tutorials.

    Got your message here Beepsy! Avon's videos are awesome. I've probably watched them all getting my own board set up.

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  • From Zip@21:1/202 to Beepsy on Sunday, November 13, 2022 14:03:10
    Hello Beepsy!

    On 12 Nov 2022, Beepsy said the following...

    This is a test of my new BBS setup. Thanks to Avon for his excellent video tutorials.

    Beepsy

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    Got you here! Welcome! =)

    Best regards
    Zip

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  • From beardy@21:3/158 to Beepsy on Sunday, November 13, 2022 16:27:46
    On 2022-11-12 11:05 Beepsy said...
    This is a test of my new BBS setup. Thanks to Avon for his excellent video tutorials.

    Hello Beepsy,
    It seems to be working fine.

    --
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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Beepsy on Monday, November 14, 2022 14:40:17
    On 12 Nov 2022 at 07:05p, Beepsy pondered and said...

    This is a test of my new BBS setup. Thanks to Avon for his excellent video tutorials.

    Beepsy

    Hello and welcome, reading you 5 x 5 here in Dunedin, New Zealand.

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