On 14 Jan 2021, lu8fjh said the following...

I have F6FBB via radio and internet telnet lu8fjh.dyndns.org:6300 lu8fjh.dyndns.org:3694 Uronode Netrom tcpip Node

What's the differences between UroNode and JNOS? There does not seem to be
much documentation that I can find.
I like how you've tied them all together, via the BBS.
I had a quick look last night at your BBS, I'll have a wander more around
this weekend.
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Hi. The difference between JNOS and URONODE is that jnos is a BBS with
the TCPIP protocol over ax25 and uronode is a netrom node that also supports the tcpip protocol wich allows you to do this type of communication via
telnet for example.

73s

Juan (lu8fjh)

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Boy, I wish I had linked up fsxNet sooner, I missed a great conversation! I spent all evening last night reading this thread. All great, valid points.

Packet is alive and well here in Maine, and we're linked into New Hampshire and Canada via Houlton, but you're right: it's a very niche market. It's primarily EMAs and hospitals linked with club ECTs and ARES groups. Most of the folks around me in Southern Maine that are tinkering with it here seem to be retired folks with the time to constantly tweak audio levels and mail forwarding rules. I'm one of a few exceptions, age-wise, at 41 years old. However, I'm in it for the emcomm as well.

I brought up the idea of AREDN out here, but was told the elmers had already done the path studies and found we're too hilly. If we could get to the top of a couple commercial / emergency services towers on a couple of choice mountains, we may be able to set up an AREDN backbone, but then it gets political. I think things are shifting a little in our favor, but who knows when we'll see the results.

I also found on Facebook that North Carolina has a massive network with guys chatting with each other over the nodes. I'm not sure what their core purpose is, but they are having fun with it. For an introvert like me, and an insomniac that "plays radio" at night when the family is asleep, digital text is a great tool. I wouldn't mind seeing it come back to what I'm told is packet's original glory.

For giggles, I set up a security level for known hams on my board, and set up telnet links in the Doors menu to the nodes I'm a sysop for: WS1EC at the Cumberland County EMA, and W1YCA at the York County EMA; and their respective emergency communications teams (ham clubs). I'd love to have a radio link into my BBS, but sadly it'd just be me, and it def needs 9600 to be barely tolerable and still color ANSI.

Anyway, fun chat - it's great to see others out there with similar interests!

73 de KC1JMH
Brad

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On 14 Mar 2021, Roen said the following...

Packet is alive and well here in Maine, and we're linked into New Hampshire and Canada via Houlton, but you're right: it's a very niche market. It's primarily EMAs and hospitals linked with club ECTs and ARES groups. Most of the folks around me in Southern Maine that are tinkering with it here seem to be retired folks with the time to constantly tweak audio levels and mail forwarding rules. I'm one of a few exceptions, age-wise, at 41 years old. However, I'm in it for the emcomm as well.

There's not much around here, though I saw somewhere in the next county over from me (Clay county, I'm in Duval, Jacksonville to be specific) there is Winlink, but that's about the extent of it.

For giggles, I set up a security level for known hams on my board, and
set up telnet links in the Doors menu to the nodes I'm a sysop for:
WS1EC at the Cumberland County EMA, and W1YCA at the York County EMA;
and their respective emergency communications teams (ham clubs). I'd
love to have a radio link into my BBS, but sadly it'd just be me, and it def needs 9600 to be barely tolerable and still color ANSI.

That sounds cool, will have to check that out.

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On 03-14-21 11:25, Roen wrote to SetiOp <=-

Boy, I wish I had linked up fsxNet sooner, I missed a great
conversation! I spent all evening last night reading this thread. All great, valid points.

Sounds like it's all happening out your way. Other than APRS, there's not a lot of packet around here that I know of, but I would like to get something up, just for the hell of it. :)


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"Vk3jed" <vk3jed@21:1/109> writes:

Other than APRS, there's not a
lot of packet around here that I know of

I'm sort of in the same situation, we have APRS and WinLink on VHF, but
not much else in the way of packet.

Having an RF BBS sounds like it would be awesome, though.
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On 03-18-21 07:47, Nkeck72 wrote to Vk3jed <=-

In article <60531E2D.149.fsx_ham@finalzone.ddns.net>
"Vk3jed" <vk3jed@21:1/109> writes:

Other than APRS, there's not a
lot of packet around here that I know of

I'm sort of in the same situation, we have APRS and WinLink on VHF, but not much else in the way of packet.

Having an RF BBS sounds like it would be awesome, though.

Yeah, will consider my options. I may be setting up a system for a club, in which case, I could make it accessible via packet radio and ham mesh
etworking.


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Boy, I wish I had linked up fsxNet sooner, I missed a great
conversation! I spent all evening last night reading this thread. All

Always happy to continue the conversation where packet is involved! :)

Packet is alive and well here in Maine, and we're linked into New

Not much in my area of Canada, but across the lake in Ohio there appears to
be some activity. I just ordered a couple of very nice but pricey TNC cables
so I can start setting something up. I am hoping to link into Ohio since I am only 5 minutes from Lake Erie.

For giggles, I set up a security level for known hams on my board, and
set up telnet links in the Doors menu to the nodes I'm a sysop for:

Thats pretty cool. I have a radio telescope in my back yard so I wrote a door to access statistics and get the status of it. At one point I had it so I
could move the dish elevation remotely.

I thought about maybe setting up a door as a ham gateway myself, even if it
is just me that uses it. :)

Nice to her from you!

73
Scott VE3CGN

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Is AMPRNet still a thing? I thought I had seen somewhere that it was kind of going out.

I did love playing with NOS on my Amiga 500 back in the day using my
Kamtronics KPC-3 with some of my friends. We had one guy in the next county over helped us getit up and working and we did a lot of cool stuff with it. I had the software which I downloaded from Aminet, but n clue how to really use it.

I wouldn't mind doing something with packet again. I have an MFJ TNC-2 just sitting here under my Zoom v.32bis and USR 56K modems just itching to get on the air.

73.
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Re: Re: Packet Radio
By: SetiOp to Roen on Fri Mar 19 2021 09:29 pm

Hi Scott,

A pleasure to chat with you and these other fine hams as well!

so I can start setting something up. I am hoping to link into Ohio since I am only 5 minutes from Lake Erie.

I'm certain they'd love to have a Canadian on their network. We used to get a thrill seeing DX contacts crawling our nodes from New Brunswick, and they loved seeing us make our way up.

Sadly, the infrastructure between Southern Maine and them had been taken down, but others are starting to rebuild. Midcoast Maine is still going strong, we just need to reconnect to them, and then northward!

Thats pretty cool. I have a radio telescope in my back yard so I wrote a door to access statistics and get the status of it. At one point I had it so

A radio telescope? Cool! Most I've done with space is download SSTV from the ISS and images from NOAA, and the one contact via the ISS repeater.

73 de KC1JMH
Brad

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On 22 Mar 2021 at 04:23a, mobbyg pondered and said...

Is AMPRNet still a thing? I thought I had seen somewhere that it was
kind of going out.

AMPRNet is still very much a thing, but it's a massively
underutilized resource and more people should get allocations.

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SetiOp wrote:

Hello everyone! I am curious if anyone has packet radio being used in their local area for something other than APRS? Packet has pretty much disappeared here in Ontario, Canada, although APRS is still active. I appreciate your time.

Here in east Tennessee we have a few Winlink nodes as well as quite a
few APRS digipeaters and even a couple weather stations. We don't have
any AX.25 nodes but I plan to change that here in the near future. :P
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On 05-03-21 04:50, tenser wrote to mobbyg <=-

AMPRNet is still very much a thing, but it's a massively
underutilized resource and more people should get allocations.

I've already got 2 /24s. :)


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Here in east Tennessee we have a few Winlink nodes as well as quite a
few APRS digipeaters and even a couple weather stations. We don't have
any AX.25 nodes but I plan to change that here in the near future. :P

Thanks for the reply! I just picked up another TNC last week myself, hoping to put up one port on the Ohio network frequency and one on a local frequency to link the two. We'll have to see how that works out. Keep me in the loop on
your progress getting AX.25 running! I am starting from scratch in this area
as well. Best of luck!

Scott

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underutilized resource and more people should get allocations.

I haven't had any luck reaching any coordinators here in Ontario. I used to have an allocation years ago but I lost it at some point. I'll have to try harder I guess. For now I am going to focus on getting the RF running here.

Scott

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On 05-05-21 20:04, SetiOp wrote to Vk3jed <=-

underutilized resource and more people should get allocations.

I haven't had any luck reaching any coordinators here in Ontario. I
used to have an allocation years ago but I lost it at some point. I'll have to try harder I guess. For now I am going to focus on getting the
RF running here.

Bummer. If you can't raise your coordinator, it's work asking on the 44net mailing list.


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underutilized resource and more people should get allocations.

I haven't had any luck reaching any coordinators here in Ontario. I

Bummer. If you can't raise your coordinator, it's work asking on the 44net mailing list.

Yeah I admit I haven't tried that, I'll have to do that. I am sure there is some coordinator looking after the block who can help on the list. I'll try that.

Thanks
Scott

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On 05-08-21 17:02, SetiOp wrote to Vk3jed <=-

underutilized resource and more people should get allocations.

I haven't had any luck reaching any coordinators here in Ontario. I

Bummer. If you can't raise your coordinator, it's work asking on the 44net mailing list.

Yeah I admit I haven't tried that, I'll have to do that. I am sure
there is some coordinator looking after the block who can help on the list. I'll try that.

If all else fails, the global coordinator should see your post.


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Re: Re: Packet Radio
By: Vk3jed to Nkeck72 on Fri Mar 19 2021 05:01 pm

Do you or anyone know what software to use to connect a regular DOS BBS up on packet radio with a KISS TNC? or would you need a fancier TNC?

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On 06-13-21 22:30, Phigan wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Re: Re: Packet Radio
By: Vk3jed to Nkeck72 on Fri Mar 19 2021 05:01 pm

Do you or anyone know what software to use to connect a regular DOS BBS
up on packet radio with a KISS TNC? or would you need a fancier TNC?

I haven't done it myself, but there are people who know how to do it. Might me something 'd like to try at some stage. Would need a dedicated heme.


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Hello Phigan;

Phigan wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Do you or anyone know what software to use to connect a regular DOS BBS
up on packet radio with a KISS TNC? or would you need a fancier TNC?

What BBS software are you looking to use? Most of them have migrated over to linux. For DOS, I can think of 2 you may desire to look at:

MFNOS - which will also give you TCP/IP functions and a NetRom node
MSYS - which will give you a NetRom node.

I have the last versions of each available if you need them. MFNOS will
require Borland C to compile which I also may have a copy floating
around.

For linux, I'll suggest URONode and LinFBB. You can get both of those on sourceforge.

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On 06-13-21 22:30, Phigan wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Re: Re: Packet Radio
By: Vk3jed to Nkeck72 on Fri Mar 19 2021 05:01 pm

Do you or anyone know what software to use to connect a regular DOS BBS
up on packet radio with a KISS TNC? or would you need a fancier TNC?

It has been done, but I'm not up with the details.


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Is anyone doing packet anymore? I mean K2K and BBS/Nodes not so much the APRS or WINLINK flavor of the mode. I have a PK232 in the box still and am really trying to justify setting up the thing and one of my old 2m radios. I have family with some prime real estate for a node that would really give some coverage too. It would be nice to have a BBS that was a sort of IGATE that could function both radio and TELNET too. 1200bps is pretty painful though...

Anyone in New York with any sense of what's left of VHF packet? There used to be node maps, (35 years ago) and we were pretty connected across the state. I think I'd like to stay off the HF 105net, it seems even less reliable and slower connection speeds yet!

NPR New Packet Radio proposes a sort of IP over the radio thing. ARDEN is doing the same, but we're landlocked here for lack of participation.

Is there anything similar to store and forward type communications going on that I just haven't heard about? Any new sound card modes out there? It feels like the hobby has stagnated to a degree as the internet took over.

Thoughts?

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On 07 Feb 2024 at 03:58p, N2QFD pondered and said...

Is anyone doing packet anymore? I mean K2K and BBS/Nodes not so much the APRS or WINLINK flavor of the mode. I have a PK232 in the box still and
am really trying to justify setting up the thing and one of my old 2m radios. I have family with some prime real estate for a node that would really give some coverage too. It would be nice to have a BBS that was a sort of IGATE that could function both radio and TELNET too. 1200bps is pretty painful though...

Where in New York? Charles Hargrove (N2NOV) runs packet
stations near the city; I run one in the Boston area. There
are RF links between all these. Do a search for EastNet
packet; I'm not a member per se; my stuff is (mostly) documented
at https://kz2x.radio/

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Is anyone doing packet anymore? I mean K2K and BBS/Nodes not so much the APRS or WINLINK flavor of the mode. I have a PK232 in the box still and

Hello N2QFD,

I am not sure about New York, but Ohio seems to be quite busy with packet. I am across the lake from Cleveland and was hoping to link South-Western Ontario to their network. Unfortunately, I wasn't able to get a stable radio link set up from my location. I have collected some 1200 baud packet gear and was planning a radio backbone to carry Winlink and BBS traffic. I may still build out a network at some point, but for now the project is on hold. Nice to see someone else is interested in packet!

73
SetiOp - Scott, VE3CGN

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I'm out in Elmira so southern tier.
just testing my pakratt and think HF is my lot!

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On 11 Feb 2024 at 01:39p, N2QFD pondered and said...

I'm out in Elmira so southern tier.
just testing my pakratt and think HF is my lot!

Oh, ok. Well, good luck with it! 73

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Is there anything similar to store and forward type communications going on that I just haven't heard about? Any new sound card modes out there?
It feels like the hobby has stagnated to a degree as the internet took over.

Hey N2QFD
On HF we have JS8Call that can be used to store and forward messages.
Stations have their own 'Inbox' and you can also use other stations to store/relay messages. It's fun to play with and some people have
established groups. There are even hams playing chess that way.
Not to take away from that cozy old school packet feeling of Network105,
it is a lot easier and faster if your looking for store/forward messaging


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