• Windows To Linux...

    From Rick Smith@21:1/190.1 to Bucko on Saturday, July 04, 2020 10:21:04
    Greetings Bucko!

    04 Jul 20 11:08, you wrote to All about an urgent matter!:

    Haven't posted in a while. I am thinking about moving my system from Windows to Linux, is there any pitfalls I need to be aware of? Is it
    as simple as Windows where you install on the platform then copy the original directory over the new one? Just trying to be ready for when
    I decide to make this move..

    I have done it, you have to make sure you change all the directories, especially in your .ini files be sure to change from \ to / that hung me up at first. Other than that it was pretty simple no data lost or anything.



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  • From Bucko@21:4/131 to Rick Smith on Monday, August 24, 2020 18:51:46
    On 04 Jul 2020, Rick Smith said the following...

    Greetings Bucko!

    I have done it, you have to make sure you change all the directories, especially in your .ini files be sure to change from \ to / that hung me up at first. Other than that it was pretty simple no data lost or anything.



    Thanks for the info. I still haven't made up my mind. I want to learn Linux a lot better then I do now, I'm learning though.. LOL THanks again..

    Al

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  • From Bucko@21:4/131 to All on Monday, November 15, 2021 13:54:03
    Hey all.. Has anyone created a DOC file or can give me some tips, I am thinking about moving my board off of Windows, and over to Ubuntu. To many issues lately with Windows and I am tired of the bi-monthly update shut down.. Any info would be appreciated...

    Al

    ... What hair color do they put on the driver's licenses of bald men?

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Bucko on Tuesday, November 16, 2021 09:49:07
    On 15 Nov 2021 at 01:54p, Bucko pondered and said...

    Hey all.. Has anyone created a DOC file or can give me some tips, I am thinking about moving my board off of Windows, and over to Ubuntu. To
    many issues lately with Windows and I am tired of the bi-monthly update shut down.. Any info would be appreciated...

    there's some info on the wiki about shifting from Windows to Linux (Rpi etc.) that's helpful.

    Are you new to Linux (like I have been) or a seasoned pro ;-)

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  • From Bucko@21:4/131 to Avon on Monday, November 15, 2021 15:55:17
    On 16 Nov 2021, Avon said the following...


    there's some info on the wiki about shifting from Windows to Linux (Rpi etc.) that's helpful.

    Are you new to Linux (like I have been) or a seasoned pro ;-)


    Thanks bud.. I am in the middle, been playing with it for a little over a year and have been enjoying it.. Just trying to move everything including my daily driver over to Ubuntu now.. If I can get KVM to mimic my 3 screens which I believe it will do, I will be set... LOL

    Al

    ... Everyone smiles in the same language.

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Bucko on Tuesday, November 16, 2021 10:01:11
    On 15 Nov 2021 at 03:55p, Bucko pondered and said...

    Thanks bud.. I am in the middle, been playing with it for a little over
    a year and have been enjoying it.. Just trying to move everything including my daily driver over to Ubuntu now.. If I can get KVM to mimic my 3 screens which I believe it will do, I will be set... LOL

    Yeah I have been using it on/off for some years but the last year made the switch over to it for Agency and the HUBs I run. Still learning and get caught up with permissions stuff still.. the joys :)

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  • From Bucko@21:4/131 to Avon on Monday, November 15, 2021 20:03:37
    On 16 Nov 2021, Avon said the following...


    Yeah I have been using it on/off for some years but the last year made
    the switch over to it for Agency and the HUBs I run. Still learning and get caught up with permissions stuff still.. the joys :)


    My son who has been not necessarily pushing me but helping me keeps telling me Google is your best friend! LOL He is right though.. Permissions drive me crazy also. Like you I am still learning but have 3 computers already converted and 2 more to go, these are my BBS computers. Setting up a dry run in a VM of Mystic install then bringing my board over to it, if it goes well the VM can be converted from VMWare to KVM very easily, and I will shut down the Windows VM and replace it with the Ubuntu version.. Seems like a good project over the next week or 2... :) At least until I start my daily driver conversion to see if I like it or not as a daily use Computer..

    AL

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  • From paulie420@21:2/150 to Bucko on Monday, November 15, 2021 16:58:00
    Hey all.. Has anyone created a DOC file or can give me some tips, I am thinking about moving my board off of Windows, and over to Ubuntu. To
    many issues lately with Windows and I am tired of the bi-monthly update shut down.. Any info would be appreciated...

    Al

    I wrote someone a few tips once, but I don't have a DOC or HOW-TO. There is usually Linux-specfic BBS Software install wikis - for Mystic and Synchronet, anyway...

    But I'd certainly be willing to help. Dependant on what type of machine/system you'd like to build, Ubuntu Server or Ubuntu Desktop might be a good choice. If yer gonna run one computer on Linux and want a GUI/desktop manager, some other choices might be worth looking into.

    Theres a ton of Linux help on the FTNs, too... several of us help eachother out a ton... I'm amatuer to intermediate and would be willing to answer any questions I might know answers to. :P

    What type of system do you wanna build? Like - if it were just a small Linux cloud server, you'd surely pick some lighter non-GUI distro.... do you know yer set on Ubuntu? Desktop, Server or you dunno yet?



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  • From paulie420@21:2/150 to Avon on Monday, November 15, 2021 16:59:47
    Yeah I have been using it on/off for some years but the last year made
    the switch over to it for Agency and the HUBs I run. Still learning and get caught up with permissions stuff still.. the joys :)

    Tee, hee - funny how we all struggle with certain hurdles when learning/switching to nix. :P I'm learning more and more bash scripting ATM - and can barely solve my intermediate permissions issues. Got the NAS all ironed out; which was a..... :P



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  • From Bucko@21:4/131 to paulie420 on Monday, November 15, 2021 21:37:32
    On 15 Nov 2021, paulie420 said the following...

    I wrote someone a few tips once, but I don't have a DOC or HOW-TO. There is usually Linux-specfic BBS Software install wikis - for Mystic and Synchronet, anyway...

    But I'd certainly be willing to help. Dependant on what type of machine/system you'd like to build, Ubuntu Server or Ubuntu Desktop
    might be a good choice. If yer gonna run one computer on Linux and want
    a GUI/desktop manager, some other choices might be worth looking into.


    Just set up a VM with Ubuntu Desktop, already have Mystic running in it, I considered Mint as it is a light setup, but no need for lightness while running Mystic, at least in my opinion.. LOL the wikis are my friends! LOL

    Theres a ton of Linux help on the FTNs, too... several of us help eachother out a ton... I'm amatuer to intermediate and would be willing
    to answer any questions I might know answers to. :P

    What type of system do you wanna build? Like - if it were just a small Linux cloud server, you'd surely pick some lighter non-GUI distro.... do you know yer set on Ubuntu? Desktop, Server or you dunno yet?


    System is already done, it's a VM with Ubuntu Desktop. We'll see how things go, right now it is going really easy.. I will rebuild the desktop tomorrow and reinstall completely then copy my current system on top of it and convert all of the paths etc. Once all that is done, I will work on pulling in DoorParty and MRC etc with the outside programs that stuff runs.. Shouldn't be hard, if I can get a few hours to myself I can have it running in a few hours I think.. The fun part will come in 2 weeks when I toss the new 1TB SSD in my daily driver, and install Ubuntu and KVM and if KVM will allow me to run 3 monitors in a Windows VM (you know there at least needs to be some Windows support wine is nice but is a pain in the ass to get everything to run in it) lol if that works, I will run Ubuntu as my daily driver permanently..

    Al

    ... The person who snores the loudest will fall asleep first

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  • From Bucko@21:4/131 to paulie420 on Monday, November 15, 2021 21:38:48
    On 15 Nov 2021, paulie420 said the following...


    Tee, hee - funny how we all struggle with certain hurdles when learning/switching to nix. :P I'm learning more and more bash scripting ATM - and can barely solve my intermediate permissions issues. Got the
    NAS all ironed out; which was a..... :P

    I took the easy way out, I installed Xpenology (Synology software) on a PC running Ubuntu Server, and set it up, then for Xmas last year made the family buy me a real Synology NAS.. No set up needed, just turn it on answer a bunch of questions and let it go..

    ... Tech support is just a busy signal away

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  • From paulie420@21:2/150 to Bucko on Tuesday, November 16, 2021 16:53:57
    if
    that works, I will run Ubuntu as my daily driver permanently..

    It sounds like you have a good plan and I think it will all work out OK. I use ProxMox for my VMs, but if your machines can handle all the VMs you need I think you'll get happy with that setup.

    Nice hearing how yer skinning the cat.



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  • From Bucko@21:4/131 to paulie420 on Wednesday, November 17, 2021 11:53:42
    On 16 Nov 2021, paulie420 said the following...


    It sounds like you have a good plan and I think it will all work out OK.
    I use ProxMox for my VMs, but if your machines can handle all the VMs
    you need I think you'll get happy with that setup.

    Nice hearing how yer skinning the cat.


    Yea it works fine for now, although I am starting to play with ProxMox myself. If I see that it does it better, which I think it will. I will probably move over to that.. We'll see.. Built the base of my new Mystic VM last night, got that all set up the way I want it, just have to get in touch with Maskreet about the DoorParty files to see how to get that set up with Linux. SHouldn't be hard. Other then that the Mystic conversion should be cake..

    Al

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  • From MeaTLoTioN@21:1/158 to Bucko on Sunday, November 21, 2021 01:35:05
    project over the next week or 2... :) At least until I start my daily driver conversion to see if I like it or not as a daily use Computer..

    Have you had any thoughts yet on which distro you'd like to use as your daily driver? The most obvious I think would be Ubuntu 20.04 LTS as it's "mostly" widely supportive of newer users, kinda forgiving, but some of the software available is a little older due to being more stable vs bleeding edge.

    If you have no special expectations on desktop environment, compositor, display manager etc etc, Ubuntu would probably be a good choice, and once you've daily driven for a good few years, you'll have the experience under your belt to know where to turn if you decide to mix it up.

    I use Ubuntu 20.04 on my main desktop PC, and I run Arch on my laptop. I use Ubuntu because its more or less adequate for everything I need, I installed a tiling window manager which I use instead of the standard desktop environment, called i3-gaps. I can't stand desktop environments lol. I spend most of my days in the terminal, so a twm suites me as I can have many terminals open or other windows/apps and they automatically lay out nicely and I rarely touch my mouse lol. Everything is shortcut driven.

    You should be able to download a few ISO's of various distros and shove them on a USB stick(s) and live boot many to play without having to even install, which is good to test hardware out like sound and network etc.

    If you like the look and feel of windows but just want linux, then maybe look at ZorinOS or ElementaryOS (which is a little more MacOS X like).

    Eh, that's my 2 pence worth, as they say in the interwebs, your mileage may vary. Best of luck choosing, and using. Hopefully you'll discover it to be a refreshing new start.

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  • From Bucko@21:4/131 to MeaTLoTioN on Saturday, November 20, 2021 20:47:48
    On 21 Nov 2021, MeaTLoTioN said the following...


    Have you had any thoughts yet on which distro you'd like to use as your daily driver? The most obvious I think would be Ubuntu 20.04 LTS as it's "mostly" widely supportive of newer users, kinda forgiving, but some of the software available is a little older due to being more stable vs bleeding edge.

    Actually, yes, I am using Ubuntu 20.04LTS. I have been using that on other setups now for close to a year.. I find it simple and easy to use..


    If you have no special expectations on desktop environment, compositor, display manager etc etc, Ubuntu would probably be a good choice, and
    once you've daily driven for a good few years, you'll have the
    experience under your belt to know where to turn if you decide to mix it up.

    I have played with Fedora, didn't like it to much. Played with Debian which as you know Ubuntu is a derivative of, I like that one.. Eventually I will move pretty much everything over to Debian.

    I use Ubuntu 20.04 on my main desktop PC, and I run Arch on my laptop. I use Ubuntu because its more or less adequate for everything I need, I installed a tiling window manager which I use instead of the standard desktop environment, called i3-gaps. I can't stand desktop environments lol. I spend most of my days in the terminal, so a twm suites me as I
    can have many terminals open or other windows/apps and they
    automatically lay out nicely and I rarely touch my mouse lol. Everything is shortcut driven.

    I will check out i3-gaps, I have so many VM's setup of Ubuntu and other distros it's getting to where I might need to delete some soon.. LOL Just dialed one up for Talisman BBS and have been playing around with that a little..

    You should be able to download a few ISO's of various distros and shove them on a USB stick(s) and live boot many to play without having to even install, which is good to test hardware out like sound and network etc.

    If you like the look and feel of windows but just want linux, then maybe look at ZorinOS or ElementaryOS (which is a little more MacOS X like).

    Eh, that's my 2 pence worth, as they say in the interwebs, your mileage may vary. Best of luck choosing, and using. Hopefully you'll discover it to be a refreshing new start.


    LOL I am done with Windows, well I say that now, but when I get my Daily driver full time on it and I start playing with it and having issues, I will probably go back to Windows.. LOL Right now though, Mystic is coming along on the conversion, trying to get all of the extras working first, DoorParty, BBSLink, all of my little windows scripts I run for copying and deleting logs etc, once that is all done I will copy my working Mystic board over to it and toss it online.. I think it is going well.. :)

    Thanks for the info..

    AL

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  • From paulie420@21:2/150 to Bucko on Sunday, November 21, 2021 15:38:36
    I have played with Fedora, didn't like it to much. Played with Debian which as you know Ubuntu is a derivative of, I like that one..
    Eventually I will move pretty much everything over to Debian.

    While I know it is resource heavy - I really like GNOME 40. With extensions, I can make it do all the THINGS I want, and it has really nice gestures - especially with a couple extensions that make those even better...

    I know I could design a system that is perfect, while using way less resources, but I am liking not having to ATM. :P

    I am sacrilegious and use Arch, with GNOME on top. Works for me, best of both worlds... I have 32GB of RAM, so I guess I'm allowed to make these decisions... lol.



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  • From DanielLoshi to Bucko on Monday, August 21, 2023 04:10:36
    It's great to see your interest in transitioning from Windows to Linux! While the thread is a couple of years old, the idea of moving to Linux remains relevant. Migrating systems is an exciting step, and while the process isn't exactly like copying directories, it's not overly complicated either.
  • From candycane@21:4/141 to DanielLoshi on Monday, August 21, 2023 08:57:37
    Re: Windows To Linux...
    By: DanielLoshi to Bucko on Mon Aug 21 2023 04:10 am

    It's great to see your interest in transitioning from Windows to Linux!

    Cheers! Welcome to the linux family!

    candycane

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  • From DanielLoshi to Bucko on Wednesday, August 30, 2023 14:06:41

    It's great to see your interest in transitioning from Windows to Linux! While the thread is a couple of years old, the idea of moving to Linux remains relevant. Migrating systems is an exciting step, and while the process isn't exactly like copying directories, it's not overly complicated either.



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  • From candycane@21:1/172 to DanielLoshi on Thursday, August 31, 2023 02:31:08
    Keep in mind that software compatibility might differ, so exploring Linux alternatives for your favorite applications is a smart move.

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    Well, win keys are not as important as they used to be..

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