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    From Mike Miller@1:154/30 to TIM RICHARDSON on Thursday, October 12, 2017 09:55:13

    Hello TIMMY!

    05 Oct 17 22:06, you wrote to me:


    You can count the number of abortion doctors who've been murdered
    since Roe v Wade on the fingers of both hands.

    Come now, Timmy. You've made arguments in the past upholding the murder of a single person as an example of why we should fear an entire group of people. When are you going to stop being a hypocrite?


    The number of aborted babies since Roe v Wade numbers in the millions!


    I'm not making a case for killing abortion doctors, but it is a fact
    that a whole lot more babies have been murdered than abortion doctors.
    The law says it is not murder. Your belief system says it is. Only one of these things matter in the real world.

    And anyone who doesn't think abortion amounts to murder must have been asleep during the Gosnell trial, and temporarily blind when the
    Planned Parenthood videos pertaining to `baby parts' selling were publicized.

    You mean the videos that were embelleshed, deceptively edited, and in some parts, downright faked? The same video that caused a 57 year old man (terrorist!) to go into the Colorado Springs Planned Parenthood and kill two innocent civilians?

    You keep supporting those terrorists, Timmy.


    Mike


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  • From Mike Miller@1:154/30 to Gregory Deyss on Saturday, October 14, 2017 11:13:29

    Hello Gregory!

    12 Oct 17 20:09, you wrote to me:

    I stand behind what I said about we can not have these islamic fools feeling so strongly about Allah that they commit bloodshed. Why anyone would disagree with this logic is really ridiculous.

    Keep the caliphate and Sharia Law out of the United States.

    But about the doctor's I do not condone murder by murder, these
    facilities should not exist but if they shall exist for true care of a women, then care must be defined clearly so that they do not commit
    murder known as abortion.

    The law says it is not murder. Your religions says it is murder. You're trying to enforce religious laws on everyone, Can't you see the parallels?


    Mike


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  • From Mike Miller@1:154/30 to TIM RICHARDSON on Tuesday, October 17, 2017 00:53:23

    Hello TIM!

    16 Oct 17 17:09, you wrote to me:

    On 10-14-17, MIKE MILLER said to GREGORY DEYSS:

    Hello Gregory!

    12 Oct 17 20:09, you wrote to me:

    I stand behind what I said about we can not have these islamic
    fools feeling so strongly about Allah that they commit bloodshed.
    Why anyone would disagree with this logic is really ridiculous.

    Keep the caliphate and Sharia Law out of the United States.

    But about the doctor's I do not condone murder by murder, these
    facilities should not exist but if they shall exist for true care
    of a women, then care must be defined clearly so that they do not
    commit murder known as abortion.

    The law says it is not murder. Your religions says it is murder.
    You're trying to enforce religious laws on everyone, Can't you see
    the parallels?


    You've got it the other way around. The law says its not murder.


    Fine.


    People of certain religious faiths believe otherwise.


    Can they stop a woman from entering a Planned Parenthood facility and getting an abortion?


    No, and most wouldn't try.

    SOme do. with guns. If you're going to blame all Muslims for the acts of a few, it's ok to blame all Christians for the acts of a few, right? fair is fair!


    But the lefties who believe so in abortion felt moved to FORCE those
    who object to abortion to `participate' in it! Like making religious employers pay for insurance that *includes* abortion!


    In other words....you aren't only gonna take the change and like it....you're gonna PAY for it!

    I see you don't understand how Insurance works. I don't want to pay for circumcisions, but I don't get a say in that either.


    Or the sodomites;


    You aren't only gonna accept that same-sex sodomites can degrade your sacrement of matrimony....you're gonna be forced to participate in it
    by making their wedding cake! Screw YOUR values. Screw YOUR religious beliefs!

    If I owned a bakery, and someone came in and wanted a cake that said "Praise Jesus" I would have to make it, because Religion is a protected thing under the
    Civil Rights act. Would it be OK for me to deny someone that as well?


    Lefties aren't satisfied with just winning a step toward their
    prefered way of having things, they gotta try forcing everybody to sacrifice their standards so they don't feel near as bad about
    themselves. They want to force participation of the religious
    community so as to `normalize' their degenerate behavior. Make it mainstream.

    Your stupid religion says it's "degenerate behavior". other stupid religions say it's not. Who is right?

    They aren't satisfied with having the `right' to abort a baby they
    don't want, they insist others pay to abort it.

    Once again, you don't know how Insurance works.

    Don't like Abortion? don't get one.
    Don't like same-sex marriage? Don't get married to a same-sex partner.

    You're funny, Timmy. You're all for freedom, until someone does something you don't like. Then that freedom should be taken away, even if it doesn't harm you
    in the least. You're such a hypocrite.



    Mike


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  • From Mike Miller@1:154/30 to TIM RICHARDSON on Wednesday, October 18, 2017 15:11:38

    Hello TIM!

    17 Oct 17 15:32, you wrote to me:


    SOme do. with guns. If you're going to blame all Muslims for the
    acts of a few, it's ok to blame all Christians for the acts of a
    few, right? fair is fair!


    *Islam* is not a `religion of peace'. If you believe that you have
    been listening to too much propaganda. It is a terrorist idiology.
    It's own teachings call for forcing people to convert or die! Their so-called `prophet'; Muhammad; was a mass murderer, a violent mercless war-monger and a child molester!

    Christianity / Judiasm is no different. the Bible is full of commands to kill
    non-believers.



    In other words....you aren't only gonna take the change and like
    it....you're gonna PAY for it!


    I see you don't understand how Insurance works.


    I know all too well. We aren't talking about *insurance*. We are
    talking about a *government mandate* forcing people who's religious beliefs oppose abortion to pay for it. We are talking about the
    government forcing business people of religious belief, to participate
    in a perverted display of same-sex sodomite marriage.

    Taxes are not paying for abortions. Insurance is. Insurance is an optional thing. If you don't buy Insurance, you pay a tax to the government. those tax dollars do not go to abortions, but ACA subsidies and other healthcare programs. (Medicare does not cover abortions except in very special circumstances)


    I don't want to pay for
    circumcisions, but I don't get a say in that either.


    Nobody asked you to.

    Doesn't matter, if I pay for Insurance, I pay for circumcisions. Arguably, more of my tax dollars go to circumcisions than abortions.


    Or the sodomites;


    You aren't only gonna accept that same-sex sodomites can degrade
    your sacrement of matrimony....you're gonna be forced to
    participate in it by making their wedding cake! Screw YOUR values.
    Screw YOUR religious beliefs!


    If I owned a bakery, and someone came in and wanted a cake that
    said "Praise Jesus" I would have to make it, because Religion is a
    protected thing under the Civil Rights act.


    No, you would not.


    All you have to do is tell them to go to someone who will cater to
    their needs. As a business person you *have the right to refuse
    service to anyone*.

    Incorrect. Under the Civil Rights Act I can't refuse. I can't refuse to make a
    cake for someone who is a different race, nor can I make a cake for someone who
    is a different religion. That is the law.


    Lefties aren't satisfied with just winning a step toward
    their prefered way of having things, they gotta try forcing
    everybody to sacrifice their standards so they don't feel near as
    bad about themselves. They want to force participation of the
    religious community so as to `normalize' their degenerate
    behavior. Make it mainstream.


    Your stupid religion says it's "degenerate behavior". other stupid
    religions say it's not. Who is right?

    *I* don't have any "religion"!

    You aren't a Christian? You sure talk like one.

    Don't like Abortion? don't get one.


    And I refuse to pay for one, either.

    You have that option. do not patronize insurance companies that pay for them.

    Don't like same-sex marriage? Don't get married to a same-sex
    partner.


    And I would not do business with a same-sex couple who were getting `married', that constituted `participation' in their perverted notion
    of what that means.

    Would you feel the same way about interracial couples? It is no different. the
    same argument was made 50 years ago, just replace "same-sex" with "interracial".


    You're funny, Timmy. You're all for freedom, until someone does
    something you don't like. Then that freedom should be taken away,
    even if it doesn't harm you in the least. You're such a hypocrite.


    First of all....in the future if you wish to have me participate in an exchange with you on any level, my name is *Tim*. This is not the
    first time you've used an insulting diminutive of my name, and up till
    now I've pretty well ignored it. I do not refer to you in any
    diminutive manner, and I expect the same treatment in return.

    Chances are, when you were young, you went by, or someone called you "Timmy",
    and you were OK with it. I'm just calling you by a name you (quite likely) used
    in the past, just like you do with President Obama, and just how you call LGBTQ
    people "sodomites". To get respect you have to give respect, Timmy. Count yourself lucky that I went with "Timmy" instead of "Chickenshit Hypocrite".

    Once more and I will no longer respond *to* you at all.

    Because you know you're a hypocrite, and you can't stand it when I call you out on it.


    Secondly, people who hold either religious or moral beliefs and principles, that the government can `mandate' they act otherwise do
    not have `freedom' in the first place. They are slaves!

    The government mandates that murder is illegal. Your statement above seems to indicate that you would make an exception for religious beliefs and principles.
    If someone's principles included "Kill all the Jews", that would be perfectly legit, because god forbid they become a "slave" to the government that tells them they can't do that.


    Any business you walk into has the right to refuse service to you. In fact, many businesses have signs in prominent places that say; "We
    Reserve The Right To Refuse Service To Anyone."

    But they can't. It is illegal to deny service to someone based on their skin color, religion, sex, or national origin. See: The Civil Rights Act of 1964.


    Taxpayers in a vast majority do not feel called upon to pay huge sums
    of money to a place like Planned Parenthood knowing the majority of
    that organizations actions is performing abortions. Aside from what
    the lefties snuck in and leftie judges are `pretending' to see in the `umbra and pe-numbra' of the Constitution, a huge majority of
    Americans object to giving half a billion dollars every year to an abortion mill.

    BZZT incorrect. In 2013 Abortions accounted for 3% of the nearly 10.6 million
    services provided by Planned Parenthood.
    * 4.5 million tests and treatments for STDs
    * 3.6 milion contraception related services
    * 935,573 cancer screenings (including breast exams and pap tests)
    * 1.1 million pregnancy tests and prenatal services (including adoption referrals)

    Using those numbers, roughly 330,000 (rounded up) abortions are performed per
    year through Planned Parenthood.
    Now, these are individual services. The total number of people serviced at Planned Parenthoods in 2013 was around 2.7 million, which means roughly 12 percent of clients received an abortion, assuming no one received more than one.

    So, once again your claim that "the majority of that organizations actions is performing abortions." is incorrect. fake news. a lie.


    Birth control is a lot cheaper than an abortion. And far more humane.

    Hey! we agree on something! Good thing Planned Parenthood provides those services! Now if only we could get the Christian Right to stop promoting abstinence in schools, and instead teach safe sex practices, we would have fewer abortions! Statistics show that fewer abortions are performed in areas where a comprehensive safe sex classes are taught to students vs abstinence only.

    Mike


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