Hello all! Seems we are in questions phase. I have only a few.

1. Which FTSC projects/products interest you the most? (can be several). Need not come with exact document name as some of them span several.

2. How familar are you with the issues that *C's face? No harm if you are not or never have been one but include alternets as the experience can be the same.

3. If you have been a *C and experienced a site that needed alternative to normal delivery, how did you deal with it? If you have not experienced that, what do you think you would do?

4. Since there is a call to conduct FTSC business mostly in the FTSC Public echo, how do you feel about that and why? What should remain in the private echo and what transparent here?

5. How good do you think you are at working with others, especially if their view is opposite to yours? How do you handle that?

For candidates, there are no right or wrong answers here. While we may see some differences between zones, we may also see a lot of commonality that wasn't clear before. We succeed because we span a wide range of capabilities regardless of where we physically reside.

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Hello Carol!

Nov 12 11:51 2017, Carol Shenkenberger wrote to All Candidates:

1. Which FTSC projects/products interest you the most? (can be
several). Need not come with exact document name as some of them span several.

I don't have any preferred topics.

2. How familar are you with the issues that *C's face? No harm if
you are not or never have been one but include alternets as the experience can be the same.

I've managed a network segment for AmigaNet, for example. Besides that I'm coordinating the echo distribution in R24.

3. If you have been a *C and experienced a site that needed
alternative to normal delivery, how did you deal with it? If you have not experienced that, what do you think you would do?

I'm fine with alternative delivery methods. Long time ago I've written a tool for combining FTS and UUCP into one transfer.

4. Since there is a call to conduct FTSC business mostly in the FTSC Public echo, how do you feel about that and why? What should remain
in the private echo and what transparent here?

:) Transparency would help the community to get a better picture of each member/candidate and would also encourage members to be more productive. Maybe internal coordination and similar things should be kept private. But this needs
to be discussed with the other members.

5. How good do you think you are at working with others, especially
if their view is opposite to yours? How do you handle that?

It's not about someone being right or wrong, it's about producing good documentation. Different points of view actually help. The only disappointing thing is, when someone ignores common practices of other zones.

ciao,
Markus

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Good ${greeting_time}, Carol!

12 Nov 2017 11:51:32, you wrote to All Candidates:

1. Which FTSC projects/products interest you the most? (can be
several). Need not come with exact document name as some of them
span several.

All, at least because I run the ftsc.org site containing them.

2. How familar are you with the issues that *C's face? No harm if
you are not or never have been one but include alternets as the
experience can be the same.

Being the hub in a quite large network (2:5020) I'm aware of some.

3. If you have been a *C and experienced a site that needed
alternative to normal delivery, how did you deal with it?

Does the "site" mean "node" here?

If you have not experienced that, what do you think you would do?

I have such experience, and (just a small) part of my knowledge is being (slowly) written as a FSP.

4. Since there is a call to conduct FTSC business mostly in the FTSC Public echo, how do you feel about that and why? What should remain
in the private echo and what transparent here?

That was my idea, so I fully agree with it :-)

I think we can move all technical discussions here (making them public), so anyone could participate and share their ideas.

5. How good do you think you are at working with others, especially
if their view is opposite to yours? How do you handle that?

That heavily depends of the opponents' experience and competence: I'd consider more seriously the person who writes FTN software or runs a large distribution node, than a chatterbox from a two-human "network" (or even "region").

Two numbers to compare:

gremlin@nb:~/dev/husky/hpt > git log | grep ^commit | wc -l
68

gremlin@fido:~ > grep ^link ~/fido/etc/links | wc -l
202


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Hello Alexey!

13 Nov 17 15:30, Alexey Vissarionov wrote to Carol Shenkenberger:

Good ${greeting_time}, Carol!

12 Nov 2017 11:51:32, you wrote to All Candidates:

1. Which FTSC projects/products interest you the most? (can be
several). Need not come with exact document name as some of them
span several.

All, at least because I run the ftsc.org site containing them.

You *host* (provide the server hardware and software) the web site. When I took over daily maintenance In April, 2014 there were MANY missing documents. Those must have been the ones that you weren't "interested" in :)

Since then I have added the missing ones and automated the process so new documents are added automatically within minutes of being hatched. Even now that I am no longer a FTSC member, I still provide that service.

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Re: Questions for them
By: Markus Reschke to Carol Shenkenberger on Sun Nov 12 2017 08:46 pm

I've managed a network segment for AmigaNet, for example. Besides that

I'm

coordinating the echo distribution in R24.

Humm! Back in 1999, I was the fTSC member tracking Amiga compliance with Y2K issues and reporting back. I was part of Amiganet because I had friends there.
Buddy of mine in San Diego setup same time I was for Fidonet and he was on Amigas. It's possible he started or was at the front of Amiganet. Trying to remember his name after all these years. ? Jeff Grim or Grimmet?

I'm fine with alternative delivery methods. Long time ago I've written a tool for combining FTS and UUCP into one transfer.

I like!

:) Transparency would help the community to get a better picture of each member/candidate and would also encourage members to be more productive. Maybe internal coordination and similar things should be kept private.

But

this needs to be discussed with the other members.

Yes, of course.

It's not about someone being right or wrong, it's about producing good documentation. Different points of view actually help. The only disappointing thing is, when someone ignores common practices of other zones.

Thats actually my personal pet peeve. To ignore the needs of other zones or even regions. Sometimes not all things can be done. Sometimes, like you indicate, compromise is required.

xxcarol
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Re: Questions for them
By: Alexey Vissarionov to Carol Shenkenberger on Mon Nov 13 2017 03:30 pm

1. Which FTSC projects/products interest you the most? (can be
several). Need not come with exact document name as some of them
span several.

All, at least because I run the ftsc.org site containing them.

grin, I like these questions because they arent the normal. They seem to bring out more of 'who we are' than the standard ones. Probably most here didnt kow you maintain the site.

2. How familar are you with the issues that *C's face? No harm if
you are not or never have been one but include alternets as the
experience can be the same.

Being the hub in a quite large network (2:5020) I'm aware of some.

Uh, yeah. I'd say so.

3. If you have been a *C and experienced a site that needed
alternative to normal delivery, how did you deal with it?

Does the "site" mean "node" here?

Yes. I'm not expecting something as wild as me at sea for months on end, but something outside your standard. Like possibly node/site has to be emailed instead of netmailed due to frequent travel or something like that. Idea is 'out of the normal pattern'.

If you have not experienced that, what do you think you would do?

I have such experience, and (just a small) part of my knowledge is being (slowly) written as a FSP.

Works for me! BTW, I am in on some of that if I catch your meaning. I am testing it first (in progress). I will collaberate with you in netmail later on it. I *may* be close to the same desire. Your help to refine it will be valuable.

4. Since there is a call to conduct FTSC business mostly in the FTSC
Public echo, how do you feel about that and why? What should remain
in the private echo and what transparent here?

That was my idea, so I fully agree with it :-)

Ok, not unexpected!

5. How good do you think you are at working with others, especially
if their view is opposite to yours? How do you handle that?

That heavily depends of the opponents' experience and competence: I'd consider more seriously the person who writes FTN software or runs a

large

distribution node, than a chatterbox from a two-human "network" (or even "region").

Fair enough that this is your call.

Two numbers to compare:

gremlin@nb:~/dev/husky/hpt > git log | grep ^commit | wc -l
68

gremlin@fido:~ > grep ^link ~/fido/etc/links | wc -l
202

Smile, you may have to explain that to the average person here trying to figure out who to vote for as the RC calls come out. Most are not *nix admin or use husky. I would hope all knw you are very technical but suspect you zoomed over many heads there that are going to be voting.

(For the rest, been a bit but he seems to be pulling up a list of links? I am not a *nix person other than casually since about 2002 and i never used HPT.
I could be wrong but he looks tobe piping changes to commit them to some HPT area then greping them back out. AV is very technical and no one would disagree with that statement. He's probably the most technical on the FTSC).

xxcarol
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On 2017 Nov 13 18:27:02, you wrote to Alexey Vissarionov:

Two numbers to compare:

gremlin@nb:~/dev/husky/hpt > git log | grep ^commit | wc -l
68

gremlin@fido:~ > grep ^link ~/fido/etc/links | wc -l
202

Smile, you may have to explain that to the average person here

looks like "my li'l winkie is bigger than your's" stuff to me... supposedly he has 68 commits to the HPT repository and 202 FTN mail links... he forgot to include his bra size for his chest thumping act...

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Good ${greeting_time}, Carol!

13 Nov 2017 18:27:02, you wrote to me:

1. Which FTSC projects/products interest you the most? (can be
several). Need not come with exact document name as some of them
span several.

All, at least because I run the ftsc.org site containing them.

grin, I like these questions because they arent the normal. They
seem to bring out more of 'who we are' than the standard ones.
Probably most here didnt kow you maintain the site.

Alas, I don't maintain the site - I only run it. That means, I maintain the server (actually, the container which may migrate among different servers), where the FTSC site resides.

As that was reminded by Fred, the position of site maintainer is vacant, and whether there would be any volunteers, they are welcome.

3. If you have been a *C and experienced a site that needed
alternative to normal delivery, how did you deal with it?

Does the "site" mean "node" here?

Yes. I'm not expecting something as wild as me at sea for months

That's not really wild... Properly set and tuned node may work in "autopilot" mode for months or even years, and the only duty of the sysop is to be in touch
via netmail.

Like possibly node/site has to be emailed instead of netmailed
due to frequent travel or something like that. Idea is 'out of
the normal pattern'.

The short answer: no. If the node is a part of Fidonet, it _must_ accept netmail. How to do that - that's another question.

If you have not experienced that, what do you think you would do?

I have such experience, and (just a small) part of my knowledge is
being (slowly) written as a FSP.

Works for me! BTW, I am in on some of that if I catch your meaning.

Well, yes... English in not my native language, but I'd try to do my best explaining this.

People who want to get Fidonet links (primarily for echomail feeds) have different types of Internet connections: most are behind dumb NATs, some connections are additionally limited on which outer services are allowed (especially in corporate networks) and some are just enormously expensive (mobile connections being the most obvious example). So, to provide these downlinks with echomail, we have to find methods of circumventing all the restrictions they have.

5. How good do you think you are at working with others, especially
if their view is opposite to yours? How do you handle that?

That heavily depends of the opponents' experience and competence:
I'd consider more seriously the person who writes FTN software or
runs a large distribution node, than a chatterbox from a two-human
"network" (or even "region").

Fair enough that this is your call.

Yes - that's fair and it works.
I'm not a golden sovereign for everyone to like me.

Two numbers to compare:
gremlin@nb:~/dev/husky/hpt > git log | grep ^commit | wc -l
68
gremlin@fido:~ > grep ^link ~/fido/etc/links | wc -l
202

Smile, you may have to explain that to the average person here trying
to figure out who to vote for as the RC calls come out. Most are not
*nix admin or use husky.

Actually, I don't care... We (in R50) have active development of the FTN software, but nobody else want to participate in FTSC.

Guess, why.


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Hi mark!

13 Nov 2017 18:53, from mark lewis -> Carol Shenkenberger:

gremlin@nb:~/dev/husky/hpt > git log | grep ^commit | wc -l
68

looks like "my li'l winkie is bigger than your's" stuff to me... supposedly he has 68 commits to the HPT repository

I would say that this is a very important point that he contributed much to a FTN related software project.

Also I am wondering what you mean with "supposedly" ... do you want to say that
the number presented is wrong?
On what are you basing that assumption?

CU, Ricsi

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On 2017 Nov 14 09:44:44, you wrote to Carol Shenkenberger:

Alas, I don't maintain the site - I only run it. That means, I
maintain the server (actually, the container which may migrate among different servers), where the FTSC site resides.

As that was reminded by Fred, the position of site maintainer is vacant, and whether there would be any volunteers, they are welcome.

really? there's a "FTSC site maintainer" position?? and it is empty? apparently
you have not read fred's post correctly, then... here's his quote...

----- snip -----

All, at least because I run the ftsc.org site containing them.

You *host* (provide the server hardware and software) the web site.
When I took over daily maintenance In April, 2014 there were MANY
missing documents. Those must have been the ones that you weren't "interested" in :)

Since then I have added the missing ones and automated the process so
new documents are added automatically within minutes of being hatched. Even now that I am no longer a FTSC member, I still provide that
service.

----- snip -----

look at that last line again... emphasis mine...

Even now that I am no longer a FTSC member, I STILL PROVIDE THAT
SERVICE.

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On 2017 Nov 14 11:08:46, you wrote to me:

gremlin@nb:~/dev/husky/hpt > git log | grep ^commit | wc -l
68

looks like "my li'l winkie is bigger than your's" stuff to me...
supposedly he has 68 commits to the HPT repository

I would say that this is a very important point that he contributed much

to

a FTN related software project.

68 commits is "much"?? anyone can do that in five minutes just updating spelling mistakes in comments... one can also easily set up a bunch of link lines, grep them out and post the number... logs can be faked as can most everything else... these numbers are nothing more than penis measurements and chest thumping...

Also I am wondering what you mean with "supposedly" ...

exactly that... there's nothing in the statement that shows what those commits are/were...

do you want to say that the number presented is wrong?

i said exactly what i wanted to say...

On what are you basing that assumption?

there is no assumption...

)\/(ark

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Hi Carol!

Nov 13 18:27 2017, Carol Shenkenberger wrote to Alexey Vissarionov:

gremlin@fido:~ > grep ^link ~/fido/etc/links | wc -l
202

Smile, you may have to explain that to the average person here trying
to figure out who to vote for as the RC calls come out. Most are not *nix admin or use husky. I would hope all knw you are very technical
but suspect you zoomed over many heads there that are going to be
voting.

(For the rest, been a bit but he seems to be pulling up a list of
links? I am not a *nix person other than casually since about 2002 and
i never used HPT. I could be wrong but he looks tobe piping changes
to commit them to some HPT area then greping them back out. AV is
very technical and no one would disagree with that statement. He's probably the most technical on the FTSC).

Unfortunately his search pattern isn't specific enough to catch only the links,
since there are several keyworks starting with "link". The next point is that the keywords might also be uppercase. And the "wc -l" for counting the matching
lines can be omitted too:

grep -ic "^link\s" ~/fido/etc/links

-i disables case-sensitive matching
-c for counting the matches
^ line starts with given pattern
\s any whitspace character


Sorry! I couldn't resist ;)

ciao,
Markus

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Hello Alexey!

Nov 14 09:44 2017, Alexey Vissarionov wrote to Carol Shenkenberger:

People who want to get Fidonet links (primarily for echomail feeds)
have different types of Internet connections: most are behind dumb
NATs, some connections are additionally limited on which outer
services are allowed (especially in corporate networks) and some are
just enormously expensive (mobile connections being the most obvious example). So, to provide these downlinks with echomail, we have to
find methods of circumventing all the restrictions they have.

The exhaustion of IPv4 address space forces many ISPs/telcos to migrate customers to CGNAT or DSlite. I fully agree that we have to look into finding solutions for nodes affected by those issues. Another problem is legacy software only supporting IPv4.

ciao,
Markus

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Markus,

Sorry! I couldn't resist ;)

Once a German, always a German. 8-)

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Hello Alexey!

14 Nov 17 09:44, you wrote to Carol Shenkenberger:

Actually, I don't care... We (in R50) have active development of the
FTN software, but nobody else want to participate in FTSC.

Guess, why.

:)

'Tommi

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On 2017 Nov 14 11:23:22, you wrote to Carol Shenkenberger:

Unfortunately his search pattern isn't specific enough to catch only the links, since there are several keyworks starting with "link". The next point is that the keywords might also be uppercase.

or mixed case ;)

Sorry! I couldn't resist ;)

:)

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Good ${greeting_time}, Markus!

14 Nov 2017 11:23:22, you wrote to Carol Shenkenberger:

gremlin@fido:~ > grep ^link ~/fido/etc/links | wc -l
202

Smile, you may have to explain that to the average person

Unfortunately his search pattern isn't specific enough to catch only
the links, since there are several keyworks starting with "link".

However, it does exactly that.

grep -ic "^link\s" ~/fido/etc/links

\s doesn't work there, but:

gremlin@fido:~ > grep -ic '^link ' ~/fido/etc/links
202

Sorry! I couldn't resist ;)

/me too :-)


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Hi mark!

14 Nov 2017 05:39, from mark lewis -> Richard Menedetter:

gremlin@nb:~/dev/husky/hpt > git log | grep ^commit | wc -l
68

I would say that this is a very important point that he
contributed much to a FTN related software project.

68 commits is "much"??

It is more then 50.

anyone can do that in five minutes just updating spelling mistakes in comments...

Correct ... anyone COULD do it.
Not many do.

So what is it you are implying?

one can also easily set up a bunch of link lines, grep them out and
post the number... logs can be faked as can most everything else...

Again ... what are you trying to imply here??
That Alexey faked it?
In this context it is not of importance of what CAN be done by anyone, but of what WAS done by Alexey.

Also I am wondering what you mean with "supposedly" ...

exactly that... there's nothing in the statement that shows what those commits are/were...

He never claimed to imply anything.
He just stated a fact. Namely the number of commits.

On what are you basing that assumption?

there is no assumption...

He stated that he made 68 commits to Husky.

That is a fact.
There is nothing to "suppose" here, but you still supposed.

CU, Ricsi

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Good ${greeting_time}, Richard!

14 Nov 2017 20:19:50, you wrote to mark lewis:

gremlin@nb:~/dev/husky/hpt > git log | grep ^commit | wc -l
68

I would say that this is a very important point that he
contributed much to a FTN related software project.

68 commits is "much"??

It is more then 50.

It is MUCH more than 0.
However, it is significantly less than necessary.

anyone can do that in five minutes just updating spelling mistakes
in comments...

Correct ... anyone COULD do it. Not many do.

Even less can carefully work with binary structures in portable programs...

On what are you basing that assumption?

there is no assumption...

He stated that he made 68 commits to Husky.

To be honest: these commits are in a separate local branch, non-public yet. Once it would be completed and merged to master, it will become public.


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Hallo Carol!

12.11.2017 11:51, Carol Shenkenberger schrieb an All Candidates:

1. Which FTSC projects/products interest you the most? (can be
several). Need not come with exact document name as some of them span several.

Well, currently I don't know, how the workflow is organized. It, depends, whats
to do first.

2. How familar are you with the issues that *C's face? No harm if
you are not or never have been one but include alternets as the
experience can be the same.

I'm since 2005 NC and since 2012 RC24.

3. If you have been a *C and experienced a site that needed
alternative to normal delivery, how did you deal with it? If you have
not experienced that, what do you think you would do?

Usually I'm trying to connect however it is possible. Currently ftp/smtp is used, also normal binkd connects. I've got pots lines as well, but theese are not used anymore. This depends of the technical changing by our local telcos from isdn to voip.

4. Since there is a call to conduct FTSC business mostly in the FTSC Public echo, how do you feel about that and why? What should remain
in the private echo and what transparent here?

I have no opinion about this at this time. I get the drafts and text-files from
the ftsc-filearea. I read them, and if something changed, I'll get the collegues informed.

5. How good do you think you are at working with others, especially
if their view is opposite to yours? How do you handle that?

The handling depends on the argument. Usually I try to let them calm down.

Bye/2 Torsten

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Hello Markus,

On Tuesday November 14 2017 11:44, you wrote to Alexey Vissarionov:

The exhaustion of IPv4 address space forces many ISPs/telcos to
migrate customers to CGNAT or DSlite. I fully agree that we have to
look into finding solutions for nodes affected by those issues.

Earlier this year I ran a couple of tests to explore the feasability of running
a Fidonet node on a DS-Lite connection. I reported about these experiments in a
couple of Fidonews articles titled "DS-Lite emulation experiment xxx".

The conclusion was that running a Fidonet node on a DS-Lite connection is doable.

Another problem is legacy software only supporting IPv4.

There is no problem yet, and there probably won't be for another couple of years, but I am afraid that in the end it willl boil down to "adapt or die"...


Cheers, Michiel

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On 15 Nov 17 10:53:57, Michiel Van Der Vlist said the following to Markus Resch

The conclusion was that running a Fidonet node on a DS-Lite connection is doable.

My entire Fido operation has ran on Ds-Lite for many years now.

Nick

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Hi Nick.

15 Nov 17 09:49, you wrote to Michiel Van Der Vlist:

On 15 Nov 17 10:53:57, Michiel Van Der Vlist said the following to
Markus Resch

The conclusion was that running a Fidonet node on a DS-Lite
connection is doable.

My entire Fido operation has ran on Ds-Lite for many years now.

Hmm.. I can connect you by ipv4...

18:43 [5988] BEGIN, binkd/1.1a-95/CYGWIN_NT-6.1 -pP 1:229/426 binkd.cfg
18:43 [5988] Cannot find domain for zone 1, assuming 'fidonet'
18:43 [5988] creating a poll for 1:229/426@fidonet (`d' flavour)
18:43 [5988] clientmgr started
18:43 [2696] call to 1:229/426@fidonet
18:43 [2696] trying f426.n229.z1.binkp.net [64.140.118.137]...
18:43 [2696] connected
18:43 [2696] outgoing session with f426.n229.z1.binkp.net:24554 [64.140.118. 18:43 [2696] OPT CRAM-MD5-f49e77a857d65bf31194e0f6ed19f8ee
18:43 [2696] Remote requests MD mode
18:43 [2696] SYS Darkrealms
18:43 [2696] ZYZ Nick Andre
18:43 [2696] LOC Toronto ON
18:43 [2696] NDL 9600,TCP,BINKP
18:43 [2696] TIME Wed, 15 Nov 2017 11:43:31 -0500
18:43 [2696] VER binkd/1.1a-95/Win32 binkp/1.1
18:43 [2696] addr: 1:1/130@fidonet
18:43 [2696] addr: 1:229/426@fidonet
18:43 [2696] addr: 1:12/0@fidonet
18:43 [2696] addr: 1:229/0@fidonet

host f426.n229.z1.binkp.net
f426.n229.z1.binkp.net is an alias for bbs.darkrealms.ca.
bbs.darkrealms.ca has address 64.140.118.137

And no ipv6..

Ds-lite??

'Tommi

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On 15 Nov 17 18:45:52, Tommi Koivula said the following to Nick Andre:

And no ipv6..

Ds-lite??

My misunderstanding. DS-Lite means something totally different in Canada.

Nick

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Carol Shenkenberger wrote to All Candidates <=-

Hi Carol,

I'll be happy to answer your questions.

1. Which FTSC projects/products interest you the most? (can be
several). Need not come with exact document name as some of them span several.

To be honest, I haven't kept up with a lot, though I know there is a debate about "mobile nodes" going on. I agree with Michiel that there probably
isn't going to be a lot of expansion technology-wise with FTN but there is a dire need for documenting what already is available and working.

2. How familar are you with the issues that *C's face? No harm if you are not
or never have been one but include alternets as the experience can be
the same.

Having been RC11 in the early 2000s, yes, I am. I have also been running
The Micronet Information Network, a FTN-style network with QWK/NNTP gates,
for 17 years now. I have been the zone coordinator the entire time. Lots
of little headaches but they get fixed.

3. If you have been a *C and experienced a site that needed
alternative to normal delivery, how did you deal with it? If you have
not experienced that, what do you think you would do?

I have no problems with alternative delivery methods. I would say that
BinkP is pretty standard in this age of the Internet though POTS is still a viable option also. My system can handle BinkP, FTP, ifcico, and mailer
over telnet connections.

4. Since there is a call to conduct FTSC business mostly in the FTSC Public echo, how do you feel about that and why? What should remain in the private echo and what transparent here?

I don't have a problem with the FTSC conducting a majority of its business
in the open. What should remain private are any interpersonal issues within the FTSC (though we all know what happens with that eventually) or
discussions about ideas and subjects that should be discussed privately
first and get the agreement of the majority of the group before discussing things publicly.

5. How good do you think you are at working with others, especially if their view is opposite to yours? How do you handle that?

I don't have a problem with working with others. Outright castigation for suggesting something, well, not a good idea.

For candidates, there are no right or wrong answers here. While we may
see some
differences between zones, we may also see a lot of commonality that wasn't clear before. We succeed because we span a wide range of capabilities regardless of where we physically reside.

Fidonet has been and will be "controlled anarchy". We're all in this
together whether we realize it or not. The network's survival and viability
in today's age of instant gratification rests on our ability to modernize, extend, and make the network attractive to new sysops who would be
interested in participating.

--Sean

... Cogito ergo spud. I think, therefore I yam.
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15 Nov 17 14:53, Nick Andre wrote to Tommi Koivula:

And no ipv6..

Ds-lite??

My misunderstanding. DS-Lite means something totally different in Canada.

Ok then. :)

'Tommi

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Re: Re: Questions for them
By: Sean Dennis to Carol Shenkenberger on Mon Nov 13 2017 05:47 pm

Carol Shenkenberger wrote to All Candidates <=-

Hi Carol,

I'll be happy to answer your questions.

Glad to hear too! I didnt answer right away and could claim it was a sick dog, sick kid or anything else, but lets not bother. I was off doing Thanksgiving charity if you must know (grin, really, Mayflower Marithon organization in Virginia Beach, one of many who helped).

1. Which FTSC projects/products interest you the most? (can be
several). Need not come with exact document name as some of them
span several.

To be honest, I haven't kept up with a lot, though I know there is a debate about "mobile nodes" going on. I agree with Michiel that there probably isn't going to be a lot of expansion technology-wise with FTN but there is a dire need for documenting what already is available and working.

Fair enough! Over time I saw rivers of trying to mandate all support a partiular codepage and only jumped in when they tryed to mandate deadware systems who could not support had to turn off their systems if they could not update.

2. How familar are you with the issues that *C's face? No harm if
you are not
or never have been one but include alternets as the experience can
be the same.

Having been RC11 in the early 2000s, yes, I am. I have also been running The Micronet Information Network, a FTN-style network with QWK/NNTP gates, for 17 years now. I have been the zone coordinator the entire time. Lots of little headaches but they get fixed.

Same here with Battlenet now.

3. If you have been a *C and experienced a site that needed
alternative to normal delivery, how did you deal with it? If you
have not experienced that, what do you think you would do?

I have no problems with alternative delivery methods. I would say that BinkP is pretty standard in this age of the Internet though POTS is still a viable option also. My system can handle BinkP, FTP, ifcico, and mailer over telnet connections.

;-)

4. Since there is a call to conduct FTSC business mostly in the
FTSC Public echo, how do you feel about that and why? What should
remain in the private echo and what transparent here?

I don't have a problem with the FTSC conducting a majority of its business in the open. What should remain private are any interpersonal issues within the FTSC (though we all know what happens with that eventually) or discussions about ideas and subjects that should be discussed privately first and get the agreement of the majority of the group before discussing things publicly.

I think I agree. I lean to what was posted earlier, stays there. I personally have nothing to fear there but people who said things in private to me that they would not want public, should have that freedom. There were some very ugly posts at me 2001-2007 and I not only don't want to see them again, I don't want others to take them in to flavor how those people are today. Some of them had rough edges then that have smoothed out now and should not be taken to task for youth and excitement of then.

5. How good do you think you are at working with others, especially
if their view is opposite to yours? How do you handle that?

I don't have a problem with working with others. Outright castigation for suggesting something, well, not a good idea.

Nor should that ever happen there, mor have EVER happened there.

For candidates, there are no right or wrong answers here. While we
may see some
differences between zones, we may also see a lot of commonality that
wasn't clear before. We succeed because we span a wide range of
capabilities regardless of where we physically reside.

Fidonet has been and will be "controlled anarchy". We're all in this together whether we realize it or not. The network's survival and viability in today's age of instant gratification rests on our ability to modernize, extend, and make the network attractive to new sysops who would be interested in participating.

Smile. I like your answers.

Carol
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