Hi Michiel,

I have not seen any messages from you to me either in this echo nor via
PING. I don't think my system ever received your PING request. I am
pulling this echo via a direct connection with Andrew so I don't think there should be path problems receiving your messages via this echo.

Could you please try to PING my system again? Wilfred's proven it works ... just wondering if there's a path problem somewhere.

-- Sean



--- MBSE BBS v1.0.7.22 (GNU/Linux-x86_64)
* Origin: Outpost BBS (1:18/200)

Hello Sean,

On Wednesday June 09 2021 19:44, you wrote to me:

I have not seen any messages from you to me either in this echo nor
via PING. I don't think my system ever received your PING request. I
am pulling this echo via a direct connection with Andrew so I don't
think there should be path problems receiving your messages via this
echo.

In the meantime your ping response has arrived with the following retun path:

@Via 1:18/200@fidonet @20210610.012732.UTC mbfido 1.0.7.22
@Via 1:3634/12 @20210610.012752.UTC SBBSecho 3.11-Linux r3.173
@Via 1:229/426 @20210609.212826.LST D'Bridge 4
@Via 1:229/426@fidonet @20210609.212826.LST O/T-Track+ 2.85
@Via 2:292/854 @20210610.033102.LST D'Bridge 4
@Via 2:292/854@Ward_Dossche @20210610.023359.UTC O/T-Track+ 2.85
@Via 2:280/5555 @20210610.013439.801.UTC FMail-W32(Toss) 2.1.3.7-B20170919

The time stamp on the respons message was 9 june 21:27 -400. So it seems your system took some time.

Could you please try to PING my system again? Wilfred's proven it
works ... just wondering if there's a path problem somewhere.

I will do some more tests later today.

P.S. Don't ask about the LST in D'Bridge's time stamp. An astronomer would say it stands for "Local Siderial Time"...

Cheers, Michiel

--- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20170303
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Hello Sean,

Thursday June 10 2021 11:16, I wrote to you:

I will do some more tests later today.

BTW, I also tested your TRACE functionality. It works. So you can add the TRACE flag to your listing.


Cheers, Michiel

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P.S. Don't ask about the LST in D'Bridge's time stamp. An astronomer
would say it stands for "Local Siderial Time"...

I'm guessing Local Standard Time ...

\%/@rd

--- DB4 - Jun 02 2021
* Origin: Hou het veilig, hou vol. Het komt allemaal weer goed (2:292/854)

Hi Ward,

On 2021-06-10 14:54:31, you wrote to Michiel van der Vlist:

P.S. Don't ask about the LST in D'Bridge's time stamp. An astronomer
would say it stands for "Local Siderial Time"...

I'm guessing Local Standard Time ...

Or Local Summer Time?

But I can't find those latter two on the first google results page.

Local Siderial Time is the first link. Lunar Standard Time is another... ;)


Bye, Wilfred.

--- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815
* Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)

Ward wrote (2021-06-10):

P.S. Don't ask about the LST in D'Bridge's time stamp. An astronomer
would say it stands for "Local Siderial Time"...

I'm guessing Local Standard Time ...

\%/@rd

--- DB4 - Jun 02 2021

LOL Stupid Timezone.

FTS-4009 tells us:

This field is *optional*, and must be a short, widely accepted
alphabetical abbreviation of the time zone that the time stamp
in the Via line pertains to.

The use of various Time Zone values is deprecated, implementations
should attempt to convert the timestamp in the control paragraph to
Universal Time (GMT or UTC) and use the "UTC" Time Zone indicator,
where possible.

Fortunately the programmer of D'Bridge 4 is a member of the FTSC and is able to understand technical standards and
is able fix it.


"a short, widely accepted alphabetical abbreviation of the time zone". That is some unambiguous wording ;).

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On 10 Jun 21 14:50:44, Oli said the following to Ward Dossche:

Fortunately the programmer of D'Bridge 4 is a member of the FTSC and is able to understand technical standards and
is able fix it.

Yes, I just dropped the time-zone field now.

Nick

--- Renegade vY2Ka2
* Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)

Hello Oli,

On Thursday June 10 2021 14:50, you wrote to Ward Dossche:

FTS-4009 tells us:

This field is *optional*, and must be a short, widely accepted
alphabetical abbreviation of the time zone that the time stamp
in the Via line pertains to.

The use of various Time Zone values is deprecated, implementations
should attempt to convert the timestamp in the control paragraph to
Universal Time (GMT or UTC) and use the "UTC" Time Zone indicator,
where possible.

Indeed.

Fortunately the programmer of D'Bridge 4 is a member of the FTSC and
is able to understand technical standards and is able fix it.

He has fixed it by leaving it out. Yes, FTS-4009 says it is optional. But it also says this:

The Time Zone field may only be omitted when it is not possible for
the implementation to determine the correct offset from UTC, and in
this case the time stamp must represent local time on the generating
system.

I leave the conclusion to the reader...


Cheers, Michiel

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