• less is more

    From Maurice Kinal@1:153/7001 to Ward Dossche on Monday, December 20, 2021 02:21:13
    Hey Ward!

    Nevermind development given the total screwups of the past such as TZUTC and especially obsolete datetime stamps your aforementioned developers are too chickenshit to take on even though they should know better.

    They couldn't develop their way out of a wet paper bag.

    Life is good,
    Maurice

    ... Lif sceal wið deaþe, leoht sceal wið þystrum.
    Life must be against death, light against darkness.
    --- GNU bash, version 5.1.8(1)-release (x86_64-moosile-linux-gnu)
    * Origin: Little Mikey's Brain - Ladysmith BC, Canada (1:153/7001)
  • From Maurice Kinal@1:261/38 to Maurice Kinal on Monday, December 20, 2021 03:05:16
    WHOA! I honestly thought this particular msg wouldn't get by. Oh well.

    Hey Ward!
    Nevermind development given the total screwups of the past such as TZUTC and especially obsolete datetime stamps your aforementioned developers are too chickenshit to take on even though they should know better.
    They couldn't develop their way out of a wet paper bag.

    Life is good,
    Maurice


    --- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-5
    * Origin: Prism bbs (1:261/38)
  • From Vincent Coen@2:250/1 to Maurice Kinal on Monday, December 20, 2021 22:34:19
    Hello Maurice!

    Monday December 20 2021 02:21, you wrote to Ward Dossche:

    Hey Ward!

    Nevermind development given the total screwups of the past such as
    TZUTC and especially obsolete datetime stamps your aforementioned
    developers are too chickenshit to take on even though they should know better.

    They couldn't develop their way out of a wet paper bag.

    On the basis of what software or are we all supposed to guess?

    Vincent
    --- Mageia Linux v8 X64/Mbse v1.0.7.22/GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
    * Origin: Air Applewood, The Linux Gateway to the UK & Eire (2:250/1)
  • From Maurice Kinal@1:153/7001.2989 to Vincent Coen on Monday, December 20, 2021 14:44:51
    Hey Vincent!

    On the basis of what software or are we all supposed to guess?

    All of it including my own. Speaking for mine, it totally ignores pkt headers no matter which type but it can create type 2 and 2+. As far as everything else is concerned it looks to either be broken (sysop is unaware of their noncompliancy) or type 2 pkt headers are unsupported by design. If so then all these by default are noncompliant until such time there is a document to replace current standards, which *ONLY* includes type 2 headers.

    Does the software you use support type 2?

    Life is good,
    Maurice

    ... damned if you do ... damned if you don't ... so go to hell.
    --- GNU bash, version 5.1.8(1)-release (x86_64-moosile-linux-gnu)
    * Origin: One of us @ (1:153/7001.2989)
  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Maurice Kinal on Monday, December 20, 2021 19:15:00
    On 20 Dec 21 14:44:51, Maurice Kinal said the following to Vincent Coen:

    On the basis of what software or are we all supposed to guess?

    All of it including my own. Speaking for mine, it totally ignores pkt head

    Its unfortunate that in one moment you come across as ambitious and technical, but then next you resort to unoriginal Torvalds-style effeminate whining. Or was your menstruation of a message meant to be a Netmail to Ward?

    Maybe "Life is good" for you if you were to start your own net, where every node meets your strict standard and runs software you personally approve of?

    Nick

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Maurice Kinal@1:153/7001.2989 to Nick Andre on Monday, December 20, 2021 16:22:11
    Hey Nick!

    Its unfortunate that in one moment you come across as ambitious
    and technical, but then next you resort to unoriginal
    Torvalds-style effeminate whining.

    Thank you. I appreciate the compliment.

    Maybe "Life is good" for you if you were to start your own net

    No thank you. I am a member of the FTSC and fully plan to make it count if I can. I call it doing my job.

    How about you? I have seen didley-squat coming from your direction. What exactly are supposed to be doing and how come you're not doing it?

    Life is good,
    Maurice

    ... damned if you do ... damned if you don't ... so go to hell.
    --- GNU bash, version 5.1.8(1)-release (x86_64-moosile-linux-gnu)
    * Origin: One of us @ (1:153/7001.2989)
  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Maurice Kinal on Tuesday, December 21, 2021 10:28:30
    On 20 Dec 21 16:22:11, Maurice Kinal said the following to Nick Andre:

    No thank you. I am a member of the FTSC and fully plan to make it count if can. I call it doing my job.

    And you would be fired on the spot from my IT department if you ever ran your mouth on the job the way you did earlier. You would be EATEN ALIVE.

    How about you? I have seen didley-squat coming from your direction. What exactly are supposed to be doing and how come you're not doing it?

    Aside from ZC1 and D'Bridge, not much. If there is something earth-shattering in the FTSC that needs my attention please let me know?

    Nick

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Maurice Kinal@1:153/7001 to Nick Andre on Tuesday, December 21, 2021 16:41:20
    Hey Nick!

    And you would be fired on the spot from my IT department

    Good thing it isn't an issue.

    Life is good,
    Maurice

    ... Ðeah þe earm friond lytel sylle, nim hit to miccles þances.
    Though a poor friend may give you little, take it with great thanks.
    --- GNU bash, version 5.1.8(1)-release (x86_64-moosile-linux-gnu)
    * Origin: Little Mikey's Brain - Ladysmith BC, Canada (1:153/7001)
  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Maurice Kinal on Tuesday, December 21, 2021 12:41:42
    On 21 Dec 21 16:41:20, Maurice Kinal said the following to Nick Andre:

    And you would be fired on the spot from my IT department

    Good thing it isn't an issue.

    Keyboard-warriors are never an issue.

    Nick
    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Vincent Coen@2:250/1 to Maurice Kinal on Tuesday, December 21, 2021 17:52:06
    Hello Maurice!

    Monday December 20 2021 14:44, you wrote to me:

    Hey Vincent!

    On the basis of what software or are we all supposed to guess?

    All of it including my own. Speaking for mine, it totally ignores pkt headers no matter which type but it can create type 2 and 2+. As far
    as everything else is concerned it looks to either be broken (sysop is unaware of their noncompliancy) or type 2 pkt headers are unsupported
    by design. If so then all these by default are noncompliant until
    such time there is a document to replace current standards, which
    *ONLY* includes type 2 headers.

    Does the software you use support type 2?

    As I use mbse the answer is err - yes as far as I know. - checking docs.

    Mail packets for Type 2+ - following the FSC-0039 standards with a fall back
    to old stone age packets with messages limited to a maximum of 429,467,295 bytes, see spec notes :

    Description.
    mbfido is the program to process fidonet mail and files. In order to run mbfido
    you must first start mbtask, this is the daemon which controls all bbs activities. To prevent that mbfido will run more than once at the same time a lock is placed in the protected inbound with the Pid of the running mbfido program. The gateway to and from internet is also handled by mbfido.


    Specifications.
    The recognized mail packets are type 2+ following the FSC-0039 standard with a fall back to the old stone age packets. Can handle messages of maximum 429,467,295 bytes, or less if you have less memory available, the
    practical limit is about 1 Meg. Note that most mail processors are only guaranteed to work to maximum 16 KBytes.
    Experiments between 1997 - 2003 in the LINUX echo show that this is still true,
    although most tossers seem to process mail up to 32 KBytes.




    Vincent
    --- Mageia Linux v8 X64/Mbse v1.0.7.22/GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
    * Origin: Air Applewood, The Linux Gateway to the UK & Eire (2:250/1)
  • From Maurice Kinal@1:153/7001 to Vincent Coen on Tuesday, December 21, 2021 19:14:07
    Hey Vincent!

    Does the software you use support type 2?

    As I use mbse the answer is err - yes as far as I know - checking
    docs.

    :-)

    I have much respect for the author. I'd be surprised if it doesn't work.

    The recognized mail packets are type 2+ following the FSC-0039
    standard with a fall back to the old stone age packets.

    All that is needed to make that real is to make it the standard.

    Life is good,
    Maurice

    ... Scyle monna gehwylc mid gemete healdan a wiþ leofne ond wið laþne.
    Every man should act with moderation both to friends and foes.
    --- GNU bash, version 5.1.8(1)-release (x86_64-moosile-linux-gnu)
    * Origin: Little Mikey's Brain - Ladysmith BC, Canada (1:153/7001)
  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Maurice Kinal on Wednesday, December 22, 2021 11:42:39
    M'rice,

    All that is needed to make that real is to make it the standard.

    The FTSC may declare it so and the rest of Fido might flip its middle finger. Then what?

    \%/@rd

    --- DB4 - Dec 14 2021
    * Origin: Hou het veilig, hou vol. Het komt allemaal weer goed (2:292/854)
  • From Maurice Kinal@1:153/7001 to Ward Dossche on Wednesday, December 22, 2021 11:08:21
    Hey Ward!

    The FTSC may declare it so and the rest of Fido might flip its
    middle finger. Then what?

    I'll give you the same answer I got when I asked the question; I don't know.

    My best guess is same old, same old, except maybe a whole bunch less active, with far less nodes than now ... not counting the phoney-baloney nodes of course since they are not active and just sit there festering in the nodelist.

    I am not going to ask you the same, not that I am not interested, but you tend to harsh my buzz from time to time and I think this might be one of those occasions.

    Life is good,
    Maurice

    ... Bliþe sceal bealoleas heorte.
    Happy is the guiltless heart.
    --- GNU bash, version 5.1.8(1)-release (x86_64-moosile-linux-gnu)
    * Origin: Little Mikey's Brain - Ladysmith BC, Canada (1:153/7001)
  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Maurice Kinal on Wednesday, December 22, 2021 12:30:23
    Mauwice,

    I am not going to ask you the same, not that I am not interested, but you tend to harsh my buzz from time to time and I think this might be one of those occasions.

    Let me assuwe you, my bawk is wowse than my bite ... especially when awaiting new dentuwes and evewy "w" sounds like a "w" ...

    \%/@wd

    --- DB4 - Dec 14 2021
    * Origin: Hou het veilig, hou vol. Het komt allemaal weer goed (2:292/854)
  • From Maurice Kinal@1:153/7001 to Ward Dossche on Thursday, December 23, 2021 00:43:38
    Hey Ward!

    Mauwice,

    My eldest daughter used to call me that when she was a baby. In a strange way this might be what is known as "coming full circle".

    Also, "Some people call me Mauwice" comes to mind.

    when awaiting new dentuwes and evewy "w" sounds like a "w" ...

    I hate when that happens, except that as a rule it is "r" sounds like a "w" since "w"s are supposed to sound like "w" ... unless of course it sounds like "v" (in some locales).

    Are you having a senior's moment? ;-)

    Life is good,
    Maurice

    ... Ne nanwuht ne byð yfel, ær mon wene þæt it yfel seo.
    Nothing is misery unless one thinks it is misery.
    --- GNU bash, version 5.1.8(1)-release (x86_64-moosile-linux-gnu)
    * Origin: Little Mikey's Brain - Ladysmith BC, Canada (1:153/7001)
  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Maurice Kinal on Thursday, December 23, 2021 08:55:07
    Maurice,

    Are you having a senior's moment? ;-)

    No, just fun. I refuse to be old and people who treat me like that are in for a bad moment ... girls at the check-out in a supermarket thinking I need help with paying electronically. They do that only once.

    \%/@rd

    --- DB4 - Dec 14 2021
    * Origin: Hou het veilig, hou vol. Het komt allemaal weer goed (2:292/854)
  • From Maurice Kinal@2:280/464.113 to Ward Dossche on Thursday, December 23, 2021 13:46:32
    Hey Ward!

    I refuse to be old and people who treat me like that are in for
    a bad moment

    So then your error would have been out of choice? That doesn't make any sense ... or does it?

    They do that only once.

    Myself I just use cash. They are still accepting cash in this neck of the woods. I have no idea what the check-out people think about cash but so far none of them have made any attempt to explain how to exchange it for goods in the shopping cart. I use a debit card occasionally but as a rule cash is king with me.

    For the record, you get no choice on senior's moments, they choose you.

    Life is good,
    Maurice

    ... Se ðe him ealne weg ondræt, se bið swylce he sy ealne weg cwellende.
    He who is always afraid is like one who is always dying.
    --- GNU bash, version 5.1.8(1)-release (x86_64-motorshed-linux-gnu)
    * Origin: Little Mikey's EuroPoint @ (2:280/464.113)