• Accept

    From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Andrew Leary on Sunday, February 13, 2022 03:44:57
    Hello Andrew,

    I accept my nomination.

    -- Sean

    ... You never know who's right, but you always know who's in charge.
    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
    * Origin: Outpost BBS Local Console (1:18/200)
  • From Oli@2:280/464.47 to Sean Dennis on Sunday, February 13, 2022 13:08:36
    Sean wrote (2022-02-13):

    Hello Andrew,

    I accept my nomination.

    Why?

    ---
    * Origin: Birds aren't real (2:280/464.47)
  • From Andrew Leary@1:320/219 to Sean Dennis on Sunday, February 13, 2022 06:59:01
    Hello Sean!

    13 Feb 22 03:44, you wrote to me:

    Hello Andrew,

    I accept my nomination.

    ACK.

    Andrew
    FTSC Election Coordinator

    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
    * Origin: Phoenix BBS * phoenix.bnbbbs.net (1:320/219)
  • From Alexey Vissarionov@2:5020/545 to Sean Dennis on Sunday, February 13, 2022 22:22:22
    Good ${greeting_time}, Sean!

    13 Feb 2022 03:44:56, you wrote to Andrew Leary:

    I accept my nomination.

    Excellent.
    Now, where can we look at the code written by you? git clone what?


    --
    Alexey V. Vissarionov aka Gremlin from Kremlin
    gremlin.ru!gremlin; +vii-cmiii-ccxxix-lxxix-xlii

    ... GPG: 8832FE9FA791F7968AC96E4E909DAC45EF3B1FA8 @ hkp://keys.gnupg.net
    --- /bin/vi
    * Origin: ::1 (2:5020/545)
  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Alexey Vissarionov on Monday, February 14, 2022 06:57:49
    Now, where can we look at the code written by you? git clone what?

    Nah, no git clone. His FTN Troll Posting Robot is shareware.



    ..

    --- Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; sv-SE; rv:1.9.1.16) Gecko/20101125
    * Origin: news://eljaco.se:4119 (2:203/2)
  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Alexey Vissarionov on Sunday, February 13, 2022 15:12:08
    Hello Alexey,

    13 Feb 22 22:22, you wrote to me:

    Now, where can we look at the code written by you? git clone what?

    https://mbsebbs.org

    -- Sean

    ... If the police arrest a mute, do they tell him he has the right to be silent?
    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
    * Origin: Outpost BBS Local Console (1:18/200)
  • From Oli@2:280/464.47 to Alexey Vissarionov on Monday, February 14, 2022 10:29:35
    Alexey wrote (2022-02-13):

    Good ${greeting_time}, Sean!

    13 Feb 2022 03:44:56, you wrote to Andrew Leary:

    I accept my nomination.

    Excellent.
    Now, where can we look at the code written by you? git clone what?

    Don't be such an ass, he is doing real development on MBSE:

    https://sourceforge.net/u/digimaus/activity/?page=0&limit=100#60d1919876eb681261f08e69

    ---
    * Origin: Birds aren't real (2:280/464.47)
  • From Alexey Vissarionov@2:5020/545 to Sean Dennis on Monday, February 14, 2022 15:55:50
    Good ${greeting_time}, Sean!

    13 Feb 2022 15:12:08, you wrote to me:

    Now, where can we look at the code written by you? git clone what?
    https://mbsebbs.org

    Or, more exactly, https://git.code.sf.net/p/mbsebbs/code
    Well, let's look inside...

    % git log --committer=digimaus

    ==== SOT ====
    commit 4d188a8ef695fe7fb79eebda0d0b98565f3ab1ca
    Merge: fedca01 1db5d15
    Author: Sean Dennis <digimaus@users.sourceforge.net>
    Date: Fri Jun 11 19:54:05 2021 -0400

    Merge branch 'master' of https://git.code.sf.net/p/mbsebbs/code

    commit fedca011de47acaac5bceecbd9200ee30e171a5a
    Author: Sean Dennis <digimaus@users.sourceforge.net>
    Date: Fri Jun 11 19:51:17 2021 -0400

    Reverting the files I added by accident from not doing a "make clean"

    Signed-off-by: Sean Dennis <digimaus@users.sourceforge.net>

    commit 281571e341626061e10e7269b64dfdc9bcc15d94
    Author: Sean Dennis <digimaus@users.sourceforge.net>
    Date: Fri Jun 11 17:45:03 2021 -0400

    Various updates; fixed English spelling, grammatical, and punctuation errors

    commit d78705ddde888299f6474131066242a7eb7475f3
    Author: Sean Dennis <digimaus@users.sourceforge.net>
    Date: Sun Sep 6 16:41:37 2020 -0400

    Signed-off-by: Sean Dennis <digimaus@users.sourceforge.net>

    commit e3323913409c101669ab88ad1658db8b1e22f8e4
    Author: Sean Dennis <digimaus@users.sourceforge.net>
    Date: Sun Sep 6 16:12:24 2020 -0400

    Updates

    commit 29454217710734c75e0be6776f57205be0b3d724
    Author: Sean Dennis <digimaus@users.sf.net>
    Date: Wed Jan 18 18:18:34 2017 -0500

    Fixed spelling, grammatical, and punctuation errors

    Signed-off-by: Sean Dennis <digimaus@users.sf.net>

    ==== EOT ====

    Hmmm... fixing spelling is good, but is not what I'd call "writing the code". Also, even while performing such a simple task, you had to recover from fuqup with some files "added by accident", but had not do anything to prevent these (and similar) fuqups in the future.

    I see you are not yet ready for participating in the FTSC.


    --
    Alexey V. Vissarionov aka Gremlin from Kremlin
    gremlin.ru!gremlin; +vii-cmiii-ccxxix-lxxix-xlii

    ... GPG: 8832FE9FA791F7968AC96E4E909DAC45EF3B1FA8 @ hkp://keys.gnupg.net
    --- /bin/vi
    * Origin: ::1 (2:5020/545)
  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Alexey Vissarionov on Monday, February 14, 2022 08:55:16

    On 2022 Feb 14 15:55:50, you wrote to Sean Dennis:

    I see you are not yet ready for participating in the FTSC.

    silly boi... sean's already been on the FTSC :eyeroll:

    http://ftsc.org/docs/old/fta-1003.013
    http://ftsc.org/docs/old/fta-1003.014
    http://ftsc.org/docs/old/fta-1003.024
    http://ftsc.org/docs/old/fta-1003.025
    http://ftsc.org/docs/old/fta-1003.026
    http://ftsc.org/docs/old/fta-1003.027

    i mean...

    )\/(ark

    "The soul of a small kitten in the body of a mighty dragon. Look on my majesty, ye mighty, and despair! Or bring me catnip. Your choice. Oooh, a shiny thing!"
    ... WWW: World Wide Wait.
    ---
    * Origin: (1:3634/12.73)
  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to mark lewis on Monday, February 14, 2022 16:55:32
    mark,

    http://ftsc.org/docs/old/fta-1003.013
    http://ftsc.org/docs/old/fta-1003.014
    http://ftsc.org/docs/old/fta-1003.024
    http://ftsc.org/docs/old/fta-1003.025
    http://ftsc.org/docs/old/fta-1003.026
    http://ftsc.org/docs/old/fta-1003.027

    i mean...

    Yes ... what do you mean?

    \%/@rd

    --- DB4 - Feb 12 2022
    * Origin: Hou het veilig, hou vol. Het komt allemaal weer goed (2:292/854)
  • From Shaun Buzza@1:229/110 to Alexey Vissarionov on Monday, February 14, 2022 12:29:13
    Greetings gentlemen.

    I am fully aware that, as a very junior member of the Fidonet community, my voice should not have much weight in these proceedings. However, I feel the need to respond to certain things:

    Now, where can we look at the code written by you? git clone what?
    https://mbsebbs.org

    Well, let's look inside...

    Hmmm... fixing spelling is good, but is not what I'd call "writing the code". Also, even while performing such a simple task, you had to
    recover from fuqup with some files "added by accident", but had not do anything to prevent these (and similar) fuqups in the future.

    I see you are not yet ready for participating in the FTSC.

    I'd like to remind you of the specific wording of the selection process, sir:

    "To be selected as a FTSC member, an individual must be a Fidonet node, and should be actively involved in Fidonet. *Examples* include having put out a Fidonet-related product or having updated a product in the preceding two years, or having experience as a Coordinator, Echomail Coordinator or mail or file Hub." (Emphasis on 'examples' by me)

    "writing the code", as you put it, is not a hard requirement for FTSC membership. It is merely an example, and in fact, that specific example
    doesn't mention code at all, just "updated".

    Not to mention the other ways in which Sean has fulfilled these examples! Remind me again who's Chief Editor of FIDOGAZETTE? Is this not a "Fidonet-related product"?

    More importantly, these examples are only used to qualify the phrase
    "actively inolved in Fidonet." I daresay it would be difficult to convince anyone that Sean is *not* actively involved.

    Basing membership solely on one's having 'written code' for Fidonet
    completely ignores both the letter and the spirit of the selection process.

    Thank you for reading this far. Good day, gentlemen.

    McDoob
    SysOp, PiBBS
    pibbs.sytes.net

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/26 (Raspberry Pi/32)
    * Origin: PiBBS (1:229/110)
  • From Dan Clough@1:123/115 to Shaun Buzza on Monday, February 14, 2022 12:26:00
    Shaun Buzza wrote to Alexey Vissarionov <=-

    Greetings gentlemen.

    I am fully aware that, as a very junior member of the Fidonet
    community, my voice should not have much weight in these
    proceedings. However, I feel the need to respond to certain
    things:

    Now, where can we look at the code written by you? git clone what?
    https://mbsebbs.org

    Well, let's look inside...

    Hmmm... fixing spelling is good, but is not what I'd call "writing the code". Also, even while performing such a simple task, you had to
    recover from fuqup with some files "added by accident", but had not do anything to prevent these (and similar) fuqups in the future.

    I see you are not yet ready for participating in the FTSC.

    I'd like to remind you of the specific wording of the selection
    process, sir:

    "To be selected as a FTSC member, an individual must be a
    Fidonet node, and should be actively involved in Fidonet.
    *Examples* include having put out a Fidonet-related product or
    having updated a product in the preceding two years, or having
    experience as a Coordinator, Echomail Coordinator or mail or file
    Hub." (Emphasis on 'examples' by me)

    "writing the code", as you put it, is not a hard requirement for
    FTSC membership. It is merely an example, and in fact, that
    specific example doesn't mention code at all, just "updated".

    Not to mention the other ways in which Sean has fulfilled these
    examples! Remind me again who's Chief Editor of FIDOGAZETTE? Is
    this not a "Fidonet-related product"?

    More importantly, these examples are only used to qualify the
    phrase "actively inolved in Fidonet." I daresay it would be
    difficult to convince anyone that Sean is *not* actively
    involved.

    Basing membership solely on one's having 'written code' for
    Fidonet completely ignores both the letter and the spirit of the
    selection process.

    Thank you for reading this far. Good day, gentlemen.

    Well, whaddyaknow. I completely agree with everything you've said.

    I'd also point out that Sean has been a prior member of the FTSC, and is
    the author of numerous BBS doors. While doors are not technically a
    "part" of FidoNet, they certainly are part of running a BBS, which is obviously closely tied to FidoNet.

    Some of these grumpy fucks just like to hear themselves talk, as it
    makes them feel important, and keeps their illusion of being part of the "ruling class" of FidoNet alive.

    <GUFFAW>


    ... If it weren't for Edison we'd be using computers by candlelight
    === MultiMail/Linux v0.52
    --- SBBSecho 3.14-Linux
    * Origin: Palantir * palantirbbs.ddns.net * Pensacola, FL * (1:123/115)
  • From Shaun Buzza@1:229/110 to Dan Clough on Monday, February 14, 2022 14:49:39
    Well, whaddyaknow. I completely agree with everything you've said.

    I know...I'm just as astounded as you! (o_-)

    the author of numerous BBS doors. While doors are not technically a "part" of FidoNet, they certainly are part of running a BBS, which is obviously closely tied to FidoNet.

    Agreed, again. I have plans to release my own series of BBS doors in the future, and literally wouldn't be on Fidonet if not for my interest in that.

    Some of these grumpy fucks just like to hear themselves talk, as it
    makes them feel important, and keeps their illusion of being part of the "ruling class" of FidoNet alive.

    There really is no need to be insulting. It is hard to agree with a statement like that.

    Happy Glad-I'm-Single's Day!

    McDoob
    SysOp, PiBBS
    pibbs.sytes.net
    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/26 (Raspberry Pi/32)
    * Origin: PiBBS (1:229/110)
  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Alexey Vissarionov on Monday, February 14, 2022 09:25:34
    Hello Alexey,

    14 Feb 22 15:55, you wrote to me:

    I see you are not yet ready for participating in the FTSC.

    There has been a lot of code that I have written that I have simply given Andrew, who is the head of the project, to put into the codebase without any attribution by me.

    I have never seen any of your programs that you claim to have written yet I do not go around making a fool of myself to prove you otherwise. I have better things to do.

    -- Sean

    ... Open mouth, insert foot, echo internationally.
    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
    * Origin: Outpost BBS * Johnson City, TN (1:18/200)
  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to mark lewis on Monday, February 14, 2022 09:37:18
    Hello mark,

    14 Feb 22 08:55, you wrote to Alexey Vissarionov:

    i mean...

    Never let the facts get in the way of Alexey's opinion. I've learned that from all of the other times I wasn't prepared to be on the FTSC, you know. <G>

    -- Sean

    ... Wisdom consists in knowing what to do with what you know.
    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
    * Origin: Outpost BBS * Johnson City, TN (1:18/200)
  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Shaun Buzza on Monday, February 14, 2022 13:52:21
    Hello Shaun,

    14 Feb 22 12:29, you wrote to Alexey Vissarionov:

    Not to mention the other ways in which Sean has fulfilled these
    examples! Remind me again who's Chief Editor of FIDOGAZETTE? Is this
    not a "Fidonet-related product"?

    I am a former RC (R11). I also am a backup nodelist clerk for Zone 1 if for some reason Nick's system can't handle it because all the ZC position really is for is an overglorified nodelist clerk.

    Basing membership solely on one's having 'written code' for Fidonet completely ignores both the letter and the spirit of the selection process.

    Alexey, like others in here, dislike me because I am not like them. That's all it is and ever will be. They just need to get over it because, God willing and the creek don't rise, I plan on being around for a while yet.

    As for my qualifications for the FTSC with having run my own FTN network for 22 years, being involved with Fidonet for nearly 30 years, and having been on the FTSC several times already, I know the ins and outs of FTN technology enough to be in a group whose sole purpose is to document the use of that technology. It's not the FTSC's job to come up with this new tech but document its use. One's programming skills are not needed though a good understanding of the technical complexities of FTN are to understand what the group's true functionality is.

    -- Sean

    ... It's not a bug; it's an unintended feature.
    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
    * Origin: Outpost BBS * Johnson City, TN (1:18/200)
  • From Alexey Vissarionov@2:5020/545 to Sean Dennis on Tuesday, February 15, 2022 12:21:44
    Good ${greeting_time}, Sean!

    14 Feb 2022 09:25:34, you wrote to me:

    I see you are not yet ready for participating in the FTSC.
    There has been a lot of code that I have written that I have
    simply given Andrew, who is the head of the project, to put
    into the codebase without any attribution by me.
    I have never seen any of your programs that you claim to have
    written yet

    You are using at least one containing some code from me:

    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707

    :-)


    --
    Alexey V. Vissarionov aka Gremlin from Kremlin
    gremlin.ru!gremlin; +vii-cmiii-ccxxix-lxxix-xlii

    ... :wq!
    --- /bin/vi
    * Origin: ::1 (2:5020/545)
  • From Oli@2:280/464.47 to Ward Dossche on Tuesday, February 15, 2022 10:07:03
    Ward wrote (2022-02-14):

    mark,

    http://ftsc.org/docs/old/fta-1003.013
    http://ftsc.org/docs/old/fta-1003.014
    http://ftsc.org/docs/old/fta-1003.024
    http://ftsc.org/docs/old/fta-1003.025
    http://ftsc.org/docs/old/fta-1003.026
    http://ftsc.org/docs/old/fta-1003.027

    i mean...

    Yes ... what do you mean?

    ===
    $ git clone https://github.com/zoomosis/ftsc #rip of ftsc.org
    $ fgrep -ri "sean dennis" ftsc
    fta/fta-1003.028: * List updated to reflect resignation of Sean Dennis. fta/fta-1003.028: Added Sean Dennis. obsolete/fta-1003.013: Sean Dennis 1:18/200 15 Nov 2011
    obsolete/fta-1003.014: Sean Dennis 1:18/200 15 Nov 2011
    obsolete/fta-1003.015: * List updated to reflect resignation of Sean Dennis obsolete/fta-1003.016: * List updated to reflect resignation of Sean Dennis obsolete/fta-1003.017: * List updated to reflect resignation of Sean Dennis obsolete/fta-1003.018: * List updated to reflect resignation of Sean Dennis obsolete/fta-1003.019: * List updated to reflect resignation of Sean Dennis obsolete/fta-1003.020: * List updated to reflect resignation of Sean Dennis obsolete/fta-1003.021: * List updated to reflect resignation of Sean Dennis obsolete/fta-1003.022: * List updated to reflect resignation of Sean Dennis obsolete/fta-1003.023: * List updated to reflect resignation of Sean Dennis obsolete/fta-1003.024: Sean Dennis 1:18/200 4 Dec 2019
    obsolete/fta-1003.024: * List updated to reflect resignation of Sean Dennis obsolete/fta-1003.024: Added Sean Dennis obsolete/fta-1003.025: Sean Dennis 1:18/200 4 Dec 2019
    obsolete/fta-1003.025: * List updated to reflect resignation of Sean Dennis obsolete/fta-1003.025: Added Sean Dennis obsolete/fta-1003.026: Sean Dennis 1:18/200 4 Dec 2019
    obsolete/fta-1003.026: * List updated to reflect resignation of Sean Dennis obsolete/fta-1003.026: Added Sean Dennis obsolete/fta-1003.027: Sean Dennis 1:18/200 4 Dec 2019
    obsolete/fta-1003.027: * List updated to reflect resignation of Sean Dennis obsolete/fta-1003.027: Added Sean Dennis
    ===

    No other mentions of his name in any FTS, FSC, FSP or anywhere else on ftsc.org

    ---
    * Origin: Birds aren't real (2:280/464.47)
  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Sean Dennis on Tuesday, February 15, 2022 07:00:53
    On 14 Feb 22 13:52:21, Sean Dennis said the following to Shaun Buzza:

    I am a former RC (R11). I also am a backup nodelist clerk for Zone 1 if fo some reason Nick's system can't handle it because all the ZC position reall is for is an overglorified nodelist clerk.

    Sean, that was something casually discussed a long time ago but I had decided on a different solution especially in recent times.

    It is extremely unlikely anything would happen to my system given how its set up from a hardware and Internet perspective. I run a small data centre out of my home and manage some instances in Montreal and Amazon EC2. If by chance something needs a reboot, my daughter the super-hacker can handle that.

    The more likely scenario is something happening to me personally. And thats when the Z1 Sysops can easily call another election to have me replaced. Maybe Z1 goes without the nodelist for a days, maybe a few weeks, but nobody really cares because Z1 is largely quiet, laid-back, whatever happens happens, we do not have the Nodelist Police, its 2022 not 1992, nobody here is begging for my hat, "we'll sort it out if shit happens" type of comradery.

    Nick
    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Oli on Tuesday, February 15, 2022 18:19:51
    i mean...

    Yes ... what do you mean?
    ....
    No other mentions of his name in any FTS, FSC, FSP or anywhere else on ftsc.org

    I scanned the closed FTSC-conference which only standing members and ZCs have access to and the man's contributions during 2 stints of membership were:

    * 11 years ago some talk about trademark. Unrelated.
    * In 2018 a remark that somewhere there were 2 spaces too many
    * Also a report about a car accident he had...

    So I'm really interested what Jay Harris expects what the added value could be of the contributions of this person ...

    \%/@rd

    --- DB4 - Feb 12 2022
    * Origin: Hou het veilig, hou vol. Het komt allemaal weer goed (2:292/854)
  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Alexey Vissarionov on Tuesday, February 15, 2022 09:40:46
    Alexey Vissarionov wrote to Sean Dennis <=-

    You are using at least one containing some code from me:
    -+- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
    :-)

    Excellent! GoldEd+ (and GoldEd) has always been my favorite sysop mail
    reader. I still enjoy it--and the fruits of your labors--today via SSH into
    my BBS machine.

    I was the one, about 22 years ago now, that begged Alexander (I think that
    was his name?) when he was working on it to add SMB support. He did it
    rather begrudgingly but it worked for what I needed then. These days, MBSE supports JAM so it's nothing exciting though I cannot for the life of me get the personal mail can to work under GED+/Linux.

    I prefer to use offline mail these days as it's easier for me to work with
    and I can take my time catching up on mail rather than get a huge backlog in GoldEd+.

    -- Sean

    ... "The only way to have a friend is to be one." - Ralph Waldo Emerson
    --- MultiMail/Linux
    * Origin: Outpost BBS * Johnson City, TN (1:18/200)
  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Nick Andre on Tuesday, February 15, 2022 09:44:35
    Nick Andre wrote to Sean Dennis <=-

    The more likely scenario is something happening to me personally. And thats when the Z1 Sysops can easily call another election to have me replaced. Maybe Z1 goes without the nodelist for a days, maybe a few weeks, but nobody really cares because Z1 is largely quiet, laid-back, whatever happens happens, we do not have the Nodelist Police, its 2022
    not 1992, nobody here is begging for my hat, "we'll sort it out if shit happens" type of comradery.

    I still have it here if needed and I have it partially converted into a BASH script if need be. But you're right; Z1 could go without a nodelist for a month and no one would notice. <G>

    It's similar to how in Micronet I would only put out a nodelist manually
    when needed but certain sysops started complaining about not having a weekly nodelist. So I took the time, learned how to use MakeNL, and set it up.
    Now I don't hear a peep from anyone anymore.

    -- Sean

    ... I know a good tagline when I steal one.
    --- MultiMail/Linux
    * Origin: Outpost BBS * Johnson City, TN (1:18/200)
  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Ward Dossche on Tuesday, February 15, 2022 16:29:19
    Hello Ward,

    15 Feb 22 18:19, you wrote to Oli:

    So I'm really interested what Jay Harris expects what the added value could be of the contributions of this person ...

    You have no added value, Ward. You never have and you never will. It is pitiful that you being retired and all you can do is sit around and be a keyboard warrior. Then again, that's all you have been. Getting voted out of the IC position in 2004 and making a fool of yourself saying that because Z2 supposedly made up 89% of the nodelist, your ZCC vote should make up 89% of the vote...what kind of fools do you think we are?

    The good thing is that no one lives forever--not even you.

    -- Sean

    ... Real knowledge is to know the extent of one's ignorance.
    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
    * Origin: Outpost BBS * Johnson City, TN (1:18/200)
  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Ward Dossche on Tuesday, February 15, 2022 16:29:37
    Hello Ward,

    15 Feb 22 18:19, you wrote to Oli:

    So I'm really interested what Jay Harris expects what the added value could be of the contributions of this person ...

    You've been in Fidonet for over 30 years and have added no value to the network. You're a prime example of why no one wants to join Fidonet anymore.

    You have no business being involved with the FTSC. You have never contributed anything positive; just insults and lies to prop up your battered Flemish ego. It's funny that you avoid saying my name: are you afraid of the truth that no one but your asskissing buddies like Oli, Winifred, and Michiel will think of you when you admit that the rest of the network doesn't care what you think?

    It's pitiful to see a wizened 72 year old man act like such a fool for attention. But, hey, at least it's entertainment on my end.

    So, Ward, what FTN software have you written, hmm?

    Oh, that's right...you haven't written any!

    -- Sean

    ... "May you live all the days of your live." - Jonathan Swift
    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
    * Origin: Outpost BBS * Johnson City, TN (1:18/200)
  • From Oli@2:280/464.47 to Sean Dennis on Wednesday, February 16, 2022 13:51:54
    Sean wrote (2022-02-15):

    So I'm really interested what Jay Harris expects what the added
    value could be of the contributions of this person ...

    You have no added value, Ward.

    Ward as a C does indeed not add any value. (Unless you put Cs in the equation that had even more negative value).

    You never have and you never will. It is
    pitiful that you being retired and all you can do is sit around and be a keyboard warrior. Then again, that's all you have been. Getting voted out of the IC position in 2004 and making a fool of yourself saying that because Z2 supposedly made up 89% of the nodelist, your ZCC vote should make up 89% of the vote...

    That was one a the biggest BS moves a C made. It should have disqualified him for any C position in Fidonet. But he's got away with it.

    what kind of fools do you think we are?

    The kind of fools that 'elected' a ZC1 who helped to appoint Ward as the IC again.

    The good thing is that no one lives forever--not even you.

    The "glad you will be dead" obsession again. What's wrong with you guys?

    ---
    * Origin: Birds aren't real (2:280/464.47)
  • From Shaun Buzza@1:229/110 to Oli on Wednesday, February 16, 2022 12:14:52
    The good thing is that no one lives forever--not even you.

    The "glad you will be dead" obsession again. What's wrong with you guys?

    I second this. That's a horrible thing to say, even to an enemy.

    McDoob
    SysOp, PiBBS
    pibbs.sytes.net
    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/26 (Raspberry Pi/32)
    * Origin: PiBBS (1:229/110)
  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Shaun Buzza on Wednesday, February 16, 2022 19:05:47
    Shaun,

    You have bypassed the question in the FIDOGAZETTE-echo, so I'm permiting myself to repeat it here:

    I second this. That's a horrible thing to say, even to an enemy.

    What defines someone or something as "the enemy" ?

    The thing is, I don't have the answer to that...

    \%/@rd

    --- DB4 - Feb 12 2022
    * Origin: Hou het veilig, hou vol. Het komt allemaal weer goed (2:292/854)
  • From Shaun Buzza@1:229/110 to Ward Dossche on Wednesday, February 16, 2022 13:46:14
    Shaun,

    You have bypassed the question in the FIDOGAZETTE-echo, so I'm permiting myself to repeat it here:

    What defines someone or something as "the enemy" ?

    The thing is, I don't have the answer to that...

    The reason I 'bypassed' the question earlier is because the answer is
    different for every person. Like beauty, enemies are in the eye of the beholder. I may define someone as an enemy, and another might consider him
    a friend. Each and every human on this planet has a different point of view,
    a different way of looking at the world. That's what makes us so great as a species, and so terrible at getting along...

    I know that's probably not the answer you're looking for, but it's the only one I can give to that question.

    McDoob
    SysOp, PiBBS
    pibbs.sytes.net
    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/26 (Raspberry Pi/32)
    * Origin: PiBBS (1:229/110)
  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Ward Dossche on Wednesday, February 16, 2022 17:21:37
    On 16 Feb 22 19:05:47, Ward Dossche said the following to Shaun Buzza:

    You have bypassed the question in the FIDOGAZETTE-echo, so I'm permiting myself to repeat it here:

    I second this. That's a horrible thing to say, even to an enemy.

    What defines someone or something as "the enemy" ?

    An absent parent for starters...

    Nick
    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Shaun Buzza on Wednesday, February 16, 2022 17:38:00
    On 16 Feb 22 12:14:52, Shaun Buzza said the following to Oli:

    The good thing is that no one lives forever--not even you.

    The "glad you will be dead" obsession again. What's wrong with you guy

    I second this. That's a horrible thing to say, even to an enemy.

    And some people really need to grow a set of balls.

    Words are only horrible if you allow yourself to be offended.

    Nick
    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Dan Clough@1:123/115 to Nick Andre on Wednesday, February 16, 2022 20:17:00
    Nick Andre wrote to Shaun Buzza <=-

    On 16 Feb 22 12:14:52, Shaun Buzza said the following to Oli:

    The good thing is that no one lives forever--not even you.

    The "glad you will be dead" obsession again. What's wrong with you
    guy

    I second this. That's a horrible thing to say, even to an enemy.

    And some people really need to grow a set of balls.
    Words are only horrible if you allow yourself to be offended.

    I second this.

    I'd also like to point out that Sean did *NOT* actually say "glad you will be dead"
    (to Ward). He said "no one lives forever--not even you." The person who actually
    said "glad you will be dead" was *Oli*, in his usual attempt to fan the flames.

    To me there is quite a LARGE difference between those two phrases.



    ... Post may contain information unsuitable for overly sensitive persons.
    === MultiMail/Linux v0.52
    --- SBBSecho 3.14-Linux
    * Origin: Palantir * palantirbbs.ddns.net * Pensacola, FL * (1:123/115)
  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Dan Clough on Wednesday, February 16, 2022 21:54:14
    On 16 Feb 22 20:17:00, Dan Clough said the following to Nick Andre:

    Words are only horrible if you allow yourself to be offended.

    I second this.

    I'd also like to point out that Sean did *NOT* actually say "glad you will dead"
    (to Ward). He said "no one lives forever--not even you." The person who actually
    said "glad you will be dead" was *Oli*, in his usual attempt to fan the fla

    And just like Lefaso, Wayne Christenside, Tim what-his-name, etc, whatever their names are - who cares - I made our effeminate troll a genuine polite offer in Fsx to be listed in our zone, you know, to escape that fascist dictatorship he apparently suffers in his zone.

    I allow all trolls the chance to actually stir some revolt to have me ousted since they all scream the same nonsense... he could participate in the much-coveted Z1C echo where theres just SOOOO much flames and conspiracy
    going on.

    But that would mean he'd have to be listed with potential supporters of a supposedly-evil US president and... well... gee Dan... thats meltdown city.

    Does Chicago have a favourite popcorn preference?

    Nick
    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Oli on Thursday, February 17, 2022 11:55:26
    Oli,

    what kind of fools do you think we are?

    The kind of fools that 'elected' a ZC1 who helped to appoint Ward as the
    IC again.

    Actually, that ZC1-election at that time was the best thing that could've happened to Z1 and to Fidonet as a whole. It eliminated immediately any and all of the zone-warz plus the ZONE1-segment is now again properly and correctly managed after years of neglect.

    Besides, you did not dismiss that you are my buddy ...

    "That is why how he and his bootlicker, Oliver "Oli" Rupp, operate ..."

    ... and ...

    "your asskissing buddies like Oli, Winifred, and Michiel ..."

    That 'Winifred' is actually 'Wilfred', your boss-node ... 8-)

    Take care,

    \%/@rd

    --- DB4 - Feb 12 2022
    * Origin: Hou het veilig, hou vol. Het komt allemaal weer goed (2:292/854)
  • From Dan Clough@1:123/115 to Nick Andre on Thursday, February 17, 2022 07:15:00
    Nick Andre wrote to Dan Clough <=-

    On 16 Feb 22 20:17:00, Dan Clough said the following to Nick
    Andre:

    Words are only horrible if you allow yourself to be offended.

    I second this.

    I'd also like to point out that Sean did *NOT* actually say "glad you will dead"
    (to Ward). He said "no one lives forever--not even you." The person who actually
    said "glad you will be dead" was *Oli*, in his usual attempt to fan the
    fla

    And just like Lefaso, Wayne Christenside, Tim what-his-name, etc,
    whatever their names are - who cares - I made our effeminate
    troll a genuine polite offer in Fsx to be listed in our zone, you
    know, to escape that fascist dictatorship he apparently suffers
    in his zone.

    Yes, I saw that, and as expected, it was declined/ignored.

    I allow all trolls the chance to actually stir some revolt to
    have me ousted since they all scream the same nonsense... he
    could participate in the much-coveted Z1C echo where theres just
    SOOOO much flames and conspiracy going on.

    Hahahaha

    But that would mean he'd have to be listed with potential
    supporters of a supposedly-evil US president and... well... gee
    Dan... thats meltdown city.

    Oh yes, he has a bad case of Trump Derangement Syndrome. Just like many
    of the other Euro-commies in Fido who hate the USA.

    Does Chicago have a favourite popcorn preference?

    Hehe, don't know. Haven't lived there since the mid-90's... Probably wouldn't dare to be there now. You know, because their VERY strict gun
    laws have made the place so............ safe... now. :-)



    ... All the easy problems have been solved.
    === MultiMail/Linux v0.52
    --- SBBSecho 3.14-Linux
    * Origin: Palantir * palantirbbs.ddns.net * Pensacola, FL * (1:123/115)
  • From Alexey Vissarionov@2:5020/545 to Dan Clough on Thursday, February 17, 2022 20:00:00
    Good ${greeting_time}, Dan!

    17 Feb 2022 07:15:00, you wrote to Nick Andre:

    Oh yes, he has a bad case of Trump Derangement Syndrome. Just
    like many of the other Euro-commies in Fido who hate the USA.

    Hate? Don't flatter yourself...
    http://pics.rsh.ru/img/gafometer_u67qh.png


    --
    Alexey V. Vissarionov aka Gremlin from Kremlin
    gremlin.ru!gremlin; +vii-cmiii-ccxxix-lxxix-xlii

    ... god@universe:~ # cvs up && make world
    --- /bin/vi
    * Origin: ::1 (2:5020/545)
  • From Oli@2:280/464.47 to Ward Dossche on Friday, February 18, 2022 15:08:07
    Ward wrote (2022-02-17):

    Oli,

    what kind of fools do you think we are?

    The kind of fools that 'elected' a ZC1 who helped to appoint Ward as
    the IC again.

    Actually, that ZC1-election at that time was the best thing that could've happened to Z1 and to Fidonet as a whole.

    Ward Dossche the Great really believes his grandiose psychopathic bullshit. In contrast to Trump and his asskissers, Dossche knows how to prevent a stolen election.

    These unthankful sysops in Z1; they should be glad ...

    Besides, you did not dismiss that you are my buddy ...

    Yo, bro! Why should I care?

    https://xkcd.com/386/

    "That is why how he and his bootlicker, Oliver "Oli" Rupp, operate ..."

    .. and ...

    "your asskissing buddies like Oli, Winifred, and Michiel ..."

    That 'Winifred' is actually 'Wilfred', your boss-node ... 8-)

    And I really thought he was talking about some other people I don't know.

    ---
    * Origin: They're made out of meta (2:280/464.47)