"The FTN Clearing Houz is both an FTN Mailer and FTN message
tosser, where mail is stored internally in a DB, and files in
an S3 bucket. It can also hatch and toss files into FTN
networks for both upstream and downstream nodes.
The whole project is busybody techno-dick nonsense. Written by the same genius who was trying to shove a new packet standard down my throat years ago and who has caused problems with his "Hub not available" Perl script nonsense I've had to instruct now two different Sysops to stop using.
Nick, you should get your facts right before you engage your mouth.
That conversation was with me - but it didnt go like that at all. But I do enjoy throwing out "we should create a new packet standard" every now and again to see how you react.
And that perl script doesnt tell you "the hub is not available" either.. You should read the message if you get one from my hub. Did those "two" other sysops listen to you?
Nick, you should get your facts right before you engage your mouth.
Our exchanges are public, saved here, it certainly "is" fact.
Upon your election to the FTSC you were told point blank that the FTSC does not enforce standards, they only document new ones that become popular enough. Like how BinkD became popular... the Russians just made it happen.
Finally when the lightbulb engaged and it became clear that things were not going to pan out "your way" unless you actually wrote some code and stopped bullshitting everyone, you took your ball and left.
on it. Which I tried to email you but bounced. The two Sysops are very nice
When your little script was dropped like a hot potato, things worked perfectly and it became clear how absolutely rediculous it was to have an out-of-office thing for Netmail. None of us are that important to have one.
Its all a very simple case of you selling ideas that just do not work, making busybody work, making things more complicated than necessary. Solutions to nonexistant problems. Selling a hub-system to be more than it really is.
Nick, I know - so I'll say it again, you should get your facts right before you engage your mouth.
The best thing that we can do is implement changes in as compatible a way as possible. For example, adding a ^aDATETIME control paragraph instead
I genuinely wonder why you are involved in this hobby... After all, its a "silly message network" right?
On 02 Feb 23 14:08:03, Deon said the following to Nick Andre:
Something like this?
Date: 7:50 am Mon Jan 25, 2021 Number : 3793 of 4043
From: Deon George Base : Fidonet/FTSC
To : Andrew Leary Refer #: None
Yes it is and if you're genuinely wondering "anything" about me you may have some mental problems.
So Nick, its not clear to me, how does that demonstrate that I was "trying t shove a new packet standard down my [your] throat years ago"?
Go ahead, explain it for my therapy, what enjoyment do you get from this hob
The moment I disagreed with your unoriginal idea you had your little selfrighteous tantrum I do not care to copy-npaste. Its the beginning of several pages of nonsense where you must be right and I must be wrong.
* You claim that I had a tantrum about it - to you?
* You claim I left the FTSC because of it (things not going "my way"?),
* And finally, you state you "politely told you [me] to go write code and co back with something popular"
Nah, you dont. My reply to your comment wasnt talking about your skills,bu
rather your knowledge of me.
And then when I ask you why you are involved in BBSing and "this silly mess network", you think I have "mental problems" and you like watching "techno-dick melt downs". I also notice that you often like reverting to usi male genitalia in your comments - not just here either.
star-systems, NAB, etc. Anyone can get a feed from anyone else, its
not hard and if someone needs hand holding... someone cannot
configure a mailer, they should not be a member of an FTN. Period.
That's a bit harsh. There's a lot of sysops, I'm sure, who wouldn't be
here today if they didn't get help setting their board up and getting connected. I would be one of them.
Sometime in 1993, '94... I was required to read Policy 4 and recite certain sections like a bible, answer a voice-telephone call from NC252 where I was treated like I was applying for an IT job. What type of
mailer I'm running, BBS software, was I sure I had things configured correctly etc.
Could be worse, remember when the New User Questionare on a BBS had more questions than a job application for the Police Force.
You should read the 249 questions you earnestly need to answer when applying for a US entry-visa and realize someone actually was paid to come-up with that nonsense.
Could be worse, remember when the New User Questionare on a BBS had more questions than a job application for the Police Force.
Nick Andre wrote to Nigel Reed <=-
That's a bit harsh. There's a lot of sysops, I'm sure, who wouldn't be here today if they didn't get help setting their board up and getting connected. I would be one of them.
Sometime in 1993, '94... I was required to read Policy 4 and recite certain sections like a bible, answer a voice-telephone call from NC252 where I was treated like I was applying for an IT job. What type of
mailer I'm running, BBS software, was I sure I had things configured correctly etc.
there were no
how-to guides or really help from anyone. What did exist for
documentation was halfassed or not exactly user friendly.... in other words you had to "figure it out".
I now receive automated emails in the form of scripts from Synchronet
from people who want a Fidonet address. Thats okay but there is no
longer that level of expectation. The vast majority do not even include
a reply-email.
Terry Roati wrote to Nick Andre <=-
Could be worse, remember when the New User Questionare on a BBS had
more questions than a job application for the Police Force.
I don't think those sysop asked their dinner party guests for their birthdays or did a callback verifier on them. Or, that they had dinner party guests at all.
I don't think those sysop asked their dinner party guests for their birthdays or did a callback verifier on them. Or, that they had dinner party guests at all.
I lived in Manila when I setup my BBS back in the nineties, I had over a 1000 users and two 24 hour phone lines and back then I required the following complusory info.
Real Name
Birthday
Phone Number
Calling From
To prevent duplicate accounts and for security, I used a CBV before a new users could get full access.
No one complained back then as all BBSs used a CBV for security.
I don't think I ever got up to a thousand users but I had several
hundred, around 700 back then.
I don't think I ever got up to a thousand users but I had several
hundred, around 700 back then.
That's very good for your area I guess, Metro Manila had a population of over
12 million then with free untimed local phone calls so users were limited to 30 minutes, the two lines were always busy.
Metro HongKong used to be wild with 700 systems, super busy.
Terry Roati wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-
I lived in Manila when I setup my BBS back in the nineties, I had over
a 1000 users and two 24 hour phone lines and back then I required the following complusory info.
Real Name
Birthday
Phone Number
Calling From
No one complained back then as all BBSs used a CBV for security.
Different times.
Terry Roati wrote to Alan Ianson <=-
I don't think I ever got up to a thousand users but I had several
hundred, around 700 back then.
That's very good for your area I guess, Metro Manila had a population
of over 12 million then with free untimed local phone calls so users
were limited to 30 minutes, the two lines were always busy.
Terry Roati wrote to Ward Dossche <=-
Most of the systems in Metro Manila were run by Chinese Filipinos probably due to the cost, there were only two expats being a Brit and myself. I can't really remember but I don't think the Philippines ever
had 50 systems even with the Americans when they had the two bases
there.
Those were heady, crazy times - to be so involved in a culture the world knew *nothing* about.
Fast forward to 2004, and I was able to take another cast-off work PC, throw Synchronet on it, port forward telnet to it, and I was up and running on my existing internet connection.
Terry Roati wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-
On Feb 09, 2023 07:17am, Kurt Weiske wrote to Terry Roati:
Those were heady, crazy times - to be so involved in a culture the world knew *nothing* about.
Loved Bluewave.
Terry Roati wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-
There are so many wonerful stories of sysops, a link below to my
history from what I remember.
https://tfb-bbs.org/public/t-hist.wct
Thanks for sharing - I did something similar.
https://realitycheckbbs.org/?page=More/008-realitycheckBBS%20history.htm
https://clrghouz.bbs.dege.au/about
"The FTN Clearing Houz is both an FTN Mailer and FTN message
tosser, where mail is stored internally in a DB, and files in
an S3 bucket. It can also hatch and toss files into FTN
networks for both upstream and downstream nodes.
"It was created as an idea to bring modern technology and
capabilities to that legacy computing network that existed in
the 1980's and 1990's, where many of those programs from the
1980's and 1990's are still in use today too.
| Sysop: | digital man |
|---|---|
| Location: | Riverside County, California |
| Users: | 1,054 |
| Nodes: | 15 (0 / 15) |
| Uptime: | 53:54:05 |
| Calls: | 500,777 |
| Calls today: | 9 |
| Files: | 109,358 |
| D/L today: |
51,209 files (8,302M bytes) |
| Messages: | 465,995 |
| Posted today: | 3 |