Bill Riley wrote to Martin Ridgley <=-

I've never liked Martins either, to play that is...I love their
sound. But I could never get along with the necks on them.

Yep. That's usually what's been the problem for me, too - the necks.

I've always wanted a Gibson Hummingbird or a Dove myself.
Although Taylors sure are nice.

Yeah, the Hummingbirds are nice. I like the Gibson and Guild Jumbo
models, too - mainly for their warmth of tone in the bottom end.
I can't really afford them, though. :-(

I'll have to check out a couple of Taylors. What I'm looking for
is an acoustic that I can play on stage with a band. So, I'll need
to install a good pick-up in whatever I get. If I still can't afford
a Gibson, Guild, or Taylor in another year or so, I may end up getting
a Takamine or something similar with a decent, built in pick-up.

Martin
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Paul Lawson wrote to Martin Ridgley <=-

I love the necks on the Taylors. I've played strictly electrics
for years and they're the easiest for me to transition to. I
also love the tone, extremely warm and full.

Yeah. Tone is a big factor for me, too. I like the bottom end to
sound pretty full and warm. Most of the Guilds I've played do it
for me.

The only thing I've noticed is the vast majority of the Taylors
(in my price range) I've played of late haven't projected very
well at all.

That's a shame, 'cause I'd want to be able to do some solo acoustic
performances without the benefit of any amplification. OTOH, I also
want to be able to play whatever acoustic I get on stage with a band,
so I'm going to have to get a pick-up installed. We'll have to see...

...if you've got to have 16-tracks, it's rapidly becoming more
and more affordable.

I've seen a few in Musicians Friend for around $1000. At this
point an 8-track is well beyond my needs. I'd be happy with a
4-track to play with but I figure when I do get around to it,
I may as well buy something I can grow into...

Yeah, you might as well. I've been using a 4-track cassette machine
for years now and am finding the limitations of it quite frustrating.
I write songs and I like to record demos that sound like a full band
(i.e. drums, bass, two guitars, at least two or three vocal tracks,
and occasionally keyboards). I've got pretty good at recording and
bouncing tracks now and I've managed to make some decent demos on
it - recording up to about seven tracks in total, which are mixed and
bounced down along the way to end up with just four.

I recently had the opportunity though, to work with a friend who was
making a CD on a 16-track digital deck. What a treat to be able to
save *everything* and make all your editing and mixing decisions at
the end of the project! Still, for my personal needs I think it's
probably over-kill. So, I'm looking at getting a digital 8-track
deck a.s.a.f.p. (as soon as finances permit).

Martin
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Bill Riley wrote to Martin Ridgley <=-

I've never liked Martins either, to play that is...I love their
sound. But I could never get along with the necks on them.

Yep. That's usually what's been the problem for me, too - the necks.

I've always wanted a Gibson Hummingbird or a Dove myself.
Although Taylors sure are nice.

Yeah, the Hummingbirds are nice. I like the Gibson and Guild Jumbo
models, too - mainly for their warmth of tone in the bottom end.
I can't really afford them, though. :-(

I'll have to check out a couple of Taylors. What I'm looking for
is an acoustic that I can play on stage with a band. So, I'll need
to install a good pick-up in whatever I get. If I still can't afford
a Gibson, Guild, or Taylor in another year or so, I may end up getting
a Takamine or something similar with a decent, built in pick-up.

Martin
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Paul Lawson wrote to Martin Ridgley <=-

I love the necks on the Taylors. I've played strictly electrics
for years and they're the easiest for me to transition to. I
also love the tone, extremely warm and full.

Yeah. Tone is a big factor for me, too. I like the bottom end to
sound pretty full and warm. Most of the Guilds I've played do it
for me.

The only thing I've noticed is the vast majority of the Taylors
(in my price range) I've played of late haven't projected very
well at all.

That's a shame, 'cause I'd want to be able to do some solo acoustic
performances without the benefit of any amplification. OTOH, I also
want to be able to play whatever acoustic I get on stage with a band,
so I'm going to have to get a pick-up installed. We'll have to see...

...if you've got to have 16-tracks, it's rapidly becoming more
and more affordable.

I've seen a few in Musicians Friend for around $1000. At this
point an 8-track is well beyond my needs. I'd be happy with a
4-track to play with but I figure when I do get around to it,
I may as well buy something I can grow into...

Yeah, you might as well. I've been using a 4-track cassette machine
for years now and am finding the limitations of it quite frustrating.
I write songs and I like to record demos that sound like a full band
(i.e. drums, bass, two guitars, at least two or three vocal tracks,
and occasionally keyboards). I've got pretty good at recording and
bouncing tracks now and I've managed to make some decent demos on
it - recording up to about seven tracks in total, which are mixed and
bounced down along the way to end up with just four.

I recently had the opportunity though, to work with a friend who was
making a CD on a 16-track digital deck. What a treat to be able to
save *everything* and make all your editing and mixing decisions at
the end of the project! Still, for my personal needs I think it's
probably over-kill. So, I'm looking at getting a digital 8-track
deck a.s.a.f.p. (as soon as finances permit).

Martin
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Martin Ridgley wrote in a message to Bill Riley:

I'll have to check out a couple of Taylors. What I'm looking
for is an acoustic that I can play on stage with a band. So, I'll
need to install a good pick-up in whatever I get. If I still

I've heard the Gibson Gospels are nice, thought I haven't tried one. I think you can get them with built in electronics.

Bill

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Martin Ridgley wrote in a message to Paul Lawson:

Paul Lawson wrote to Martin Ridgley <=-

Yeah. Tone is a big factor for me, too. I like the bottom end
to sound pretty full and warm. Most of the Guilds I've played do
it for me.

I've not played many guilds, too acoustic in the neck department for me...

That's a shame, 'cause I'd want to be able to do some solo
acoustic performances without the benefit of any amplification.
OTOH, I also want to be able to play whatever acoustic I get on
stage with a band, so I'm going to have to get a pick-up
installed. We'll have to see...

Eventually, I'll get a good acoustic, my son has a decent Ibanez that I use so it's pretty far dowwn the list. At least as long as he goes to college here. :)

good at recording and bouncing tracks now and I've managed to make
some decent demos on it - recording up to about seven tracks in
total, which are mixed and bounced down along the way to end up
with just four.

Thats pretty much what I'm looking to do right now. The guy I'm supposed to be starting a blues thing with has a 4-track set-up. We played with a bunch
of my pieces during the feeling out process and he's quite interested in laying
some tracks as soon as he upgrades to an 8-track. Assuming we ever get things off the ground.

Paul

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Bill Riley wrote to Martin Ridgley <=-

I've heard the Gibson Gospels are nice, thought I haven't tried
one. I think you can get them with built in electronics.

I haven't even heard of them. It's been quite a while since I
looked seriously at acoustics, though. What sort of price range
are they?

Martin
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Paul Lawson wrote to Martin Ridgley <=-

Martin Ridgley wrote in a message to Paul Lawson:

Tone is a big factor... I like the bottom end to sound pretty
full and warm. Most of the Guilds I've played do it for me.

I've not played many guilds, too acoustic in the neck department

I'm not exactly sure what you mean....

Eventually, I'll get a good acoustic, my son has a decent Ibanez
that I use so it's pretty far dowwn the list. At least as long
as he goes to college here. :)

Heh. Well, I've been getting by with a pretty decent old Fender
acoustic, but bass has been my main instrument for performing up
until recently. All I've been doing with the acoustic is writing
songs and jamming. I'm going to start doing more acoustic stuff
now though so I need a guitar that's going to sound good on stage.
It will have to project well strictly as an acoustic, but I'll also
need a good pick-up in it - whether that's built in or an after-
market addition.

...pretty good at recording and bouncing tracks... and I've
managed to make some decent demos on it...

Thats pretty much what I'm looking to do right now. The guy I'm
supposed to be starting a blues thing with has a 4-track set-up.
We played with a bunch of my pieces during the feeling out
process and he's quite interested in laying some tracks as soon
as he upgrades to an 8-track. Assuming we ever get things off
the ground.

Hey, maybe you can get a deal on his four-track when he upgrades?

I'd love to have an 8-track deck, but it's not in the cards just
yet. <sigh> Priorities, priorities... I think the acoustic guitar
has to come first, because I'll be using that to play gigs and make
some money. Then, I can start thinking about what toys I want next.
In the meantime, I'll just have to get by with what I've got. ;-\

Martin
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Martin Ridgley wrote in a message to Bill Riley:

I've heard the Gibson Gospels are nice, thought I haven't tried
one. I think you can get them with built in electronics.

I haven't even heard of them. It's been quite a while since I
looked seriously at acoustics, though. What sort of price range
are they?

Like most Gibson accoustics it hovers in the $2000 range. It's built by their Montana division. They do really fine work. You can probably get one cheaper in Canada than you can here. When I was in Victoria a couple of weeks ago I found guitar price much cheaer than here. New Les Pauls were going for about $1500 U.S.

Bill

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Bill Riley wrote to Martin Ridgley <=-

I've heard the Gibson Gospels are nice, thought I haven't tried
one. I think you can get them with built in electronics.

Like most Gibson accoustics it hovers in the $2000 range. It's
built by their Montana division. They do really fine work. You
can probably get one cheaper in Canada than you can here. When
I was in Victoria a couple of weeks ago I found guitar price
much cheaer than here.

Hmmm... well, I'll check around and see if I can try one out, just
to find out what they're like.
I was hoping to get something for less than that, though. Somewhere
in the $1,000 to $1,200 range (Cdn.). If I'm going to get a Gibson or
a Guild, it'll probably be a second hand instrument. There's no real
urgency, so maybe a good deal will come along.

Cheers,
Martin
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Martin Ridgley wrote in a message to Bill Riley:

Hmmm... well, I'll check around and see if I can try one out,
just to find out what they're like.
I was hoping to get something for less than that, though.
Somewhere in the $1,000 to $1,200 range (Cdn.). If I'm going to
get a Gibson or a Guild, it'll probably be a second hand
instrument. There's no real urgency, so maybe a good deal will
come along.

Well guitars are such a bargain in Canada right now. New Les Pauls were going for $2500 CN in Victoria, which would be about $1200 US.

Bill

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