• Morse for @

    From David Pratt@2:250/355 to All on Saturday, August 26, 2000 06:23:57
    Does anyone know whether there is a Morse character for the Commercial
    "at" symbol (@)?

    On two occasions recently, I have had reason to send my e-mail address
    on CW to foreign stations whose mother tongue was not English.

    I have been unable to find any reference to a Morse character for @ in
    any of my RSGB or ARRL publications. There are indeed Morse
    characters for accented letters, punctuation and even Esperanto, but
    no @.

    I have approach the RSGB, my own National Society, who seem totally uninterested. Sadly, this is typical of the RSGB.

    May I urge everyone to approach their own National Society to
    encourage them to seek the introduction of a Morse @. We obviously need
    one now that @ is again in very common use.

    I would suggest that di-dah-di-di-dah might be a possibility. That is
    the very old separation symbol (used to separate whole numbers from
    factions), but that has long since been superseded by the dash (dah-di-di-di-dah).

    I hope Samual Morse will not be turning in his grave; he should be
    proud of us.

    73

    David

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  • From Fane@1:170/170 to David Pratt on Wednesday, August 30, 2000 15:47:02
    26 Aug 28 13:23, David Pratt wrote to All:

    Does anyone know whether there is a Morse character for the
    Commercial "at" symbol (@)?

    FYI, Morse Academy v5.2r (the best Morse teaching programme, in my opinion, and for DOS!) maps .-... prosign AS to the @ sign. I don't know if it is just this programme or not. I suggest emailing the author to see if he got the idea from somewhere else, or just picked a random key (joe@speroni.com). Unfortunately .-... is already widely used.

    We obviously need one now that @ is again in very common
    use.

    I agree. It would be nice to see an ASCII type standard encompassing a LOT of currently missing symbols that could be internationally recognized, beyond local use. But who decides? I would say that if the ARRL published it in QST, it would be widely accepted.

    Fane, W5WMW, Owner of ROCKETRY Worldwide FidoNet Echo
    1:170/170.0 w5wmw@arrl.net +1 918 455 5806 -- Fax

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  • From Al Kaiser@1:109/921.71 to David Pratt on Thursday, August 31, 2000 22:26:32
    From the Home Office on Vulcan David Pratt said:



    26-Aug-00 13:23:57, David Pratt wrote to All
    Subject: Morse for @

    Does anyone know whether there is a Morse character for the
    Commercial "at" symbol (@)?

    May I urge everyone to approach their own National Society to
    encourage them to seek the introduction of a Morse @. We
    obviously need one now that @ is again in very common use.

    I would suggest that di-dah-di-di-dah might be a possibility. That
    is the very old separation symbol (used to separate whole numbers
    from factions), but that has long since been superseded by the
    dash (dah-di-di-di-dah).

    I hope Samual Morse will not be turning in his grave; he should be
    proud of us.

    Boy do I remember "da-da-ditty-dah-dah", (as we used to call it), from
    my Navy Days. May I suggest that you drop the ARRL an email. They love
    to champion these things

    -73- Al

    Al Kaiser n1api@home.com <=-
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  • From Roy Witt@1:10/22 to Fane on Friday, September 01, 2000 10:04:27
    Hello Fane.

    30 Aug 00 22:47, you wrote to David Pratt:

    26 Aug 28 13:23, David Pratt wrote to All:

    Does anyone know whether there is a Morse character for the
    Commercial "at" symbol (@)?

    FYI, Morse Academy v5.2r (the best Morse teaching programme, in my
    opinion, and for DOS!) maps .-... prosign AS to the @ sign. I don't
    know if it is just this programme or not. I suggest emailing the
    author to see if he got the idea from somewhere else, or just picked a random key (joe@speroni.com). Unfortunately .-... is already widely
    used.

    .-... means 'wait' in morse code....

    We obviously need one now that @ is again in very common
    use.

    I agree. It would be nice to see an ASCII type standard encompassing
    a LOT of currently missing symbols that could be internationally recognized, beyond local use. But who decides? I would say that if
    the ARRL published it in QST, it would be widely accepted.

    Computers assign the @ character to digital code #64...perhaps that's a
    good starting point. Try typing 64 while holding down the ALT key while composing a message. I think you'll find that 64 is standard...



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  • From Holger Granholm@2:20/228 to Fane on Friday, September 01, 2000 15:09:00
    In a message dated 08-30-00, Fane said to David Pratt:

    Hello Fane,

    Fane>FYI, Morse Academy v5.2r (the best Morse teaching programme, in my Fane>opinion, and for DOS!) maps .-... prosign AS to the @ sign.

    That code is the "wait" or "just a moment" signal and has been so for
    an eternity. No need to change the meaning of that.

    73 de Sam, OH0NC

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  • From Craig Healy@1:323/120 to Roy Witt on Saturday, September 02, 2000 03:12:36
    .-... means 'wait' in morse code....

    Well, that's perfectly appropriate for the internet! <g>

    -c-

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  • From Richard Brumbaugh@1:170/302.17 to Fane on Thursday, August 31, 2000 02:00:13
    On (30 Aug 00) Fane wrote to David Pratt...

    F > FYI, Morse Academy v5.2r (the best Morse teaching programme, in my
    F > opinion, and for DOS!) maps .-... prosign AS to the @ sign. I don't
    F > know if it is just this programme or not. I suggest emailing the
    F > author to see if he got the idea from somewhere else, or just picked a
    F > random key (joe@speroni.com). Unfortunately .-... is already widely
    F > used.

    Yes, I've used it many times. It means "wait". Such as I have to
    answer the fone, or somethin'.
    I have no idea how or when it originated.

    Best regards, (73)
    Dick, W5MFD since 1946
    richard.brumbaugh@gratisnet.com

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  • From Richard Brumbaugh@1:170/302.17 to Al Kaiser on Friday, September 01, 2000 04:01:57
    On (01 Sep 00) Al Kaiser wrote to David Pratt...

    Boy do I remember "da-da-ditty-dah-dah", (as we used to call it),
    from my Navy Days. May I suggest that you drop the ARRL an email.
    They love to champion these things

    That's a comma "," and well used, hi.

    Best regards, (73)
    Dick, W5MFD since 1946
    richard.brumbaugh@gratisnet.com

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