• From Peter May@3:690/462 to Roy Witt on Wednesday, May 24, 2000 00:39:52
    Roy Witt wrote in a message to Oliver Katigbak:


    Is their a difference from CD radio?

    In the beginning there was 10 and 11 meters and the world was
    fruitfull. The lord decided that there were enough morons in the
    world to occupy a portion of it without having to learn anything
    but; 10-4 Good buddy. And so he allocated a portion of 11 meters
    to them.

    I thought 11 metres was seen as "unused by HAMs" by pirate operators, it wascommandered, cheaply made American CB radios were easily available and widelyused, not to army war surplus equipment such as the PRC88. Intruder watches byamateurs were a waste of time.

    Widespread pirating continued, the government did not have the resources tocontrol the situation as every man and his dog bought "illegal" CB radio gearso they brought out a "CB" licence. At least that's the Australian story, Iwas there, I was a pirate.

    In a nutshell, if you dont use it you lose it! This is your wakeup call!
    If the Govt sees a portion of spectrum that appears unused (had a listen to HF lately?) it can and will reallocate that spectrum. It may auction the spectrum
    off (revenue raising) to mining companies and the like or reallocate it to other purposes.

    Cheers,
    Peter
    --- timEd 1.10.y2k
    * Origin: The Junkbox BBS, Perth, Western Australia (3:690/462)
  • From Richard Brumbaugh@1:170/302.17 to Peter May on Thursday, May 25, 2000 06:18:59
    On (24 May 00) Peter May wrote to Roy Witt...

    I thought 11 metres was seen as "unused by HAMs" by pirate operators,
    it wascommandered, cheaply made American CB radios were easily
    available and widelyused, not to army war surplus equipment such as
    the PRC88. Intruder watches byamateurs were a waste of time.

    I worked a LOT of 11 meter CW back in the 1940's, including. We
    shared the band with diathermy machines and other such interference.

    Best regards, (73)
    Dick, W5MFD since 1946
    richard.brumbaugh@gratisnet.com

    --- PPoint 3.01
    * Origin: A School-Free Gun Zone * Tulsa OK * USA (1:170/302.17)
  • From TOM WALKER@1:202/801 to RICHARD BRUMBAUGH on Thursday, May 25, 2000 23:05:10
    I thought 11 metres was seen as "unused by HAMs" by pirate operators, it wascommandered, cheaply made American CB radios were easily available and widelyused, not to army war surplus equipment such as
    the PRC88. Intruder watches byamateurs were a waste of time.

    I worked a LOT of 11 meter CW back in the 1940's, including. We
    shared the band with diathermy machines and other such interference.

    But the HAM's lost it the same way they lost the lower portion of hte
    220 Band. UNDERUSAGE!!
    And as a side Notre the Diathermy, And other Medical devices plus
    assorted other devices are still there. Only NOW days it is hard to
    tell the Difference between the Diathermy Transmissions and the Typical
    CB'er.
    --- Platinum Xpress/Win/WINServer v3.0pr4
    * Origin: Fanciful Online, San Diego, CA (1:202/801)
  • From Roy Witt@1:10/22 to Peter May on Sunday, May 28, 2000 00:08:49
    Hello Peter.

    24 May 00 07:39, you wrote to me:

    but; 10-4 Good buddy. And so he allocated a portion of 11 meters
    to them.

    I thought 11 metres was seen as "unused by HAMs" by pirate operators,

    I wasn't a HAM back in those days, but from what I understand, it wasn't
    being used and so the re-apportionment by the FCC.

    it was commandered, cheaply made American CB radios were easily
    available and widelyused, not to army war surplus equipment such as
    the PRC88. Intruder watches byamateurs were a waste of time.

    That was much later, maybe ten years after CB came into being. I remember
    a few guys who pioneered SSB 'sliders' in the late sixties and the
    exclusive use of channel 15b and 16. 15a was an allocated channel, 15b
    was for radio control usage, which required a different license.

    Widespread pirating continued, the government did not have the
    resources tocontrol the situation as every man and his dog bought "illegal" CB radio gearso they brought out a "CB" licence. At least
    that's the Australian story, Iwas there, I was a pirate.

    The pirates in the US utilized the space between 27.405 and 28.000 MHz for thier communications. It was also happening long before channel 23 was
    the highest channel for use in American CB. I was there with my trusty
    Kenwood TS-520 and an old Heath 'Apache Warrior' with 1200 watts. I've
    long since removed the crystal that controls the VFO, however.

    In a nutshell, if you dont use it you lose it! This is your wakeup
    call! If the Govt sees a portion of spectrum that appears unused (had
    a listen to HF lately?) it can and will reallocate that spectrum. It
    may auction the spectrum off (revenue raising) to mining companies
    and the like or reallocate it to other purposes.

    We have a magazine editor, you may have heard of him; Wayne Green of 73 Magazine - who long ago said that we should auction off all of the
    'amateur' sprectrum we're not using. Course, the FCC might have something
    to say about that.



    ... HAM (n) 2. Acronym for Hasn't Any Money.
    --- Twit(t) Filter v2.1 (C) 2000
    * Origin: Kissed By 6 Pretty Indians (1:10/22)
  • From Roy Witt@1:10/22 to Richard Brumbaugh on Sunday, May 28, 2000 00:19:42
    Hello Richard.

    25 May 00 13:18, you wrote to Peter May:

    I worked a LOT of 11 meter CW back in the 1940's, including. We
    shared the band with diathermy machines and other such interference.

    CBers shared the band with those things too. They reaked havoc on AM
    radios, but they almost went away when SSB came along!



    ... No wanna work... wanna play with satellites!!!
    --- Twit(t) Filter v2.1 (C) 2000
    * Origin: KB6PI's Antenna Farm * Santa Ysabel, CA * (1:10/22)