On 2016-11-20 06:44 PM, Deavmi wrote:

So, I was not born in the Usenet era and honestly would have like to had
what they had - a standard protocol for communication. This exists today
but guess what has happened to it, SPAM, SPAM and more SPAM.

I want an NNTP network and I know many others do as well, I surely
cannot be alone in a quest for a protocol which allows discussions on
topics with any client you want to use. Therefore I want to create a new Usenet, in this proposal I shall refer to it as Usenet-Next as it needs
a name that people can use to relate to this proposal.

So how shall we make our network rid of spam. Well the thing is to be
strict in both the user registration process and the server
configurations and who our servers peer with. I am not well versed at
all in NNTP but that is why I'd like to get you people to mail me
(deavmi [at] disroot [dot] org) so we discuss the setup but also the
rules for the network which will be very strict and lastly how these
things are linked together.

Remember, we are not migrating Usenet but creating our own network, Usenet-Next, therefore we will not have any relation to the Usenet
network or community, the only relation we will have is making them
aware of our new proposal and network.

I would like to save the idea of a distributed network of servers
tossing posts around to create a decentralized but common database of
news - this is Usenet. I would greatly appreciate mail from anyone who
would like to discuss this proposal and do some tests and setup the
network. I would also like to note that I am not making myself the
network king or anything, I just want to start the discussion.

I am sorry for the spam I have caused. But spam is something that is
useless, and this is not spam. I have contradicted myself there, sorry.
I just felt that this is a matter of emergency. I don't want to resort
to terrible centralized web forums, I love Usenet, even for the 2 days I
have been using it but I could not come to terms with and accept the spam.

Sincerely,
Tristan B. Kildaire (Deavmi)

So according to a Usenet user my approach of the walled garden is bad.
Well, at least I started a discussion. I'd like suggestions then on how
we could make this network but still be strict but open? D you see what
I mean?
--- SBBSecho 3.00-Linux
* Origin: Electronic Warfare BBS | telnet:\\bbs.ewbbs.net (1:227/201)

On 2016-11-20 07:54 PM, Richard Menedetter wrote:

Hi Tristan!

20 Nov 2016 18:44, from Tristan B. Kildaire -> DOVE-Net.Internet,AGN_BBS,FIDO.INT:

I want an NNTP network and I know many others do as well,

Well ... something like that exists, it is called fidonet and is not

massively

popular in recent times.

I think that the existing NNTP protocol allows you to do what you want.
I just very much doubt that you will be able to interest enough people to participate.

Good luck!

CU, Ricsi

--- GoldED+/LNX
* Origin: The perfect guest makes his host feel at home (2:310/31)

I think that the existing NNTP protocol allows you to do what you want.

I just very much doubt that you will be able to interest enough people to participate.

I agree. But atleast I started a thoughtful discussion.
--- SBBSecho 3.00-Linux
* Origin: Electronic Warfare BBS | telnet:\\bbs.ewbbs.net (1:227/201)

Hi Tristan!

20 Nov 2016 20:37, from Tristan B. Kildaire -> Richard Menedetter:

I agree. But atleast I started a thoughtful discussion.

I would VERY surprised if it would not die very soon without any palpable outcome.

Let's see.

CU, Ricsi

--- GoldED+/LNX
* Origin: Spilling your drink is alcohol abuse! (2:310/31)

Hi Tristan!

20 Nov 2016 20:37, from Tristan B. Kildaire -> Richard Menedetter:

I agree. But atleast I started a thoughtful discussion.

I would VERY surprised if it would not die very soon without any palpable >outcome.

Let's see.

CU, Ricsi

--- GoldED /LNX
* Origin: Spilling your drink is alcohol abuse! (2:310/31)

True as well. This post will fall into the whole of retention. But hey, I posted it onto Usenet and the other news servers would have gotten it by now so
maybe someone will find it.
--- SBBSecho 3.00-Linux
* Origin: Electronic Warfare BBS | telnet:\\bbs.ewbbs.net (1:227/201)

21 Nov 16 05:14, you wrote to Richard Menedetter:

Hi Tristan!

20 Nov 2016 20:37, from Tristan B. Kildaire -> Richard Menedetter:

I agree. But atleast I started a thoughtful discussion.

I would VERY surprised if it would not die very soon without any palpable
outcome.

Let's see.

CU, Ricsi

--- GoldED /LNX
* Origin: Spilling your drink is alcohol abuse! (2:310/31)

True as well. This post will fall into the whole of retention. But hey, I posted it onto Usenet and the other news servers would have gotten it by now so maybe someone will find it.

1. real names in fidonet, please... contact your sysop for fixing this...

2. INTERNET is a fidonet echo... it is not and should not be available outside of fidonet...

3. i've mentioned before for you to please use proper netiquette and trim irrelevent crap from your posts... at least you are not top posting which is even worse ;)

)\/(ark
a moderator, INTERNET

Always Mount a Scratch Monkey
Do you manage your own servers? If you are not running an IDS/IPS yer doin' it wrong...
... About the only thing on a farm that has an easy time is the dog.
---
* Origin: (1:3634/12.73)

21 Nov 16 05:14, you wrote to Richard Menedetter:

Hi Tristan!

20 Nov 2016 20:37, from Tristan B. Kildaire -> Richard Menedetter:

I agree. But atleast I started a thoughtful discussion.

I would VERY surprised if it would not die very soon without any palpable >> outcome.

Let's see.

CU, Ricsi

--- GoldED /LNX
* Origin: Spilling your drink is alcohol abuse! (2:310/31)

True as well. This post will fall into the whole of retention. But hey, I posted it onto Usenet and the other news servers would have gotten it by now so maybe someone will find it.

1. real names in fidonet, please... contact your sysop for fixing this...

2. INTERNET is a fidonet echo... it is not and should not be available outside

of fidonet...

3. i've mentioned before for you to please use proper netiquette and trim >irrelevent crap from your posts... at least you are not top posting which is >even worse ;)

)\/(ark
a moderator, INTERNET

Always Mount a Scratch Monkey
Do you manage your own servers? If you are not running an IDS/IPS yer doin' it

wrong...
... About the only thing on a farm that has an easy time is the dog.
---
* Origin: (1:3634/12.73)

What is top-posting?
--- SBBSecho 3.00-Linux
* Origin: Electronic Warfare BBS | telnet:\\bbs.ewbbs.net (1:227/201)

On 11/21/16, mark lewis said the following...

2. INTERNET is a fidonet echo... it is not and should not be available outside of fidonet...

I think he meant he had posted his idea in some newsgroups, rather than this echo. I've seen and responded to a couple of his messages in at least one of the alt.bbs.* groups

-=>Richard Miles<=-
-=>Captain Obvious<=-
-=>bbs.shadowscope.com<=-

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A31 (Windows)
* Origin: Shadowscope BBS | bbs.shadowscope.com | Temple, GA (1:3634/24)

21 Nov 16 23:51, you wrote to me:

What is top-posting?

1. uncle google is your friend...

2. did you notice what i did for this reply to be clean and free of extraneous and irrelevant crap quoting?

3. please also contact you sysop to correct your name in messages posted to this real names echo.

)\/(ark
a moderator, INTERNET

Always Mount a Scratch Monkey
Do you manage your own servers? If you are not running an IDS/IPS yer doin' it wrong...
... On earth there is no heaven. But, there are bits and pieces of it.
---
* Origin: (1:3634/12.73)

22 Nov 16 07:50, you wrote to me:

2. INTERNET is a fidonet echo... it is not and should not be available
outside of fidonet...

I think he meant he had posted his idea in some newsgroups, rather
than this echo. I've seen and responded to a couple of his messages in
at least one of the alt.bbs.* groups

i understand that and fully understand and agree with the comments he has received about his idea... sad to say but while it does have merit, it is highly unlikely that others will take up the flag for it...

)\/(ark

Always Mount a Scratch Monkey
Do you manage your own servers? If you are not running an IDS/IPS yer doin' it wrong...
... Ya just gotta love Catholic school: If you don't you go to hell.
---
* Origin: (1:3634/12.73)