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    From Alessandro Trebbi@2:331/313 to All on Sunday, June 21, 2020 10:59:50
    Is there a guide to install TradeWars 2002 in Mystic BBS ?

    Do i need to connect to an external game server or it works standalone ? the game server solution may be good, so that several BBS may share the same game

    Please tell me which are the exact releases to intall (my BBS runs on docker , ubuntu based, and i have installed dosemu too)

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:267/150 to Alessandro Trebbi on Sunday, June 21, 2020 10:43:39
    Do i need to connect to an external game server or it works standalone ?

    An external game server is a good choice; it's easy to set up on your BBS & players will have more players to play against.

    I recommend BBSLink. (http://bbslink.net)

    To use BBSLink, just go to their website and fill out an application. Once
    they approve you, they will give you a python file, and you set it up in
    Mystic like this:

    (DD) Exec external program
    /home/alessandro/mystic/themes/default/scripts/bbslink.py trdw %#

    It's easy, maintenance free, you get more players, and you don't have to deal with windows/linux compatibility.

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  • From Ryan Fantus@1:218/820 to Alessandro Trebbi on Monday, June 22, 2020 08:40:30
    Is there a guide to install TradeWars 2002 in Mystic BBS ?

    I see you're using Ubuntu in a docker container. In my experience there's no way a modern linux with dosemu can run TW2002. The DPMI issues you'll
    encounter render this basically impossible.

    You do have a few choices, though. One is a game server like bbslink (I can't provide much here since I don't use them). Another, is if you have xorg
    running (even in VNC), you can run TWGS which is what I do. It's highly performant and you can run multiple games at the same time.

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12 to Ryan Fantus on Monday, June 22, 2020 13:09:48
    Re: Re: Tradewars 2002
    By: Ryan Fantus to Alessandro Trebbi on Mon Jun 22 2020 08:40:30


    I see you're using Ubuntu in a docker container. In my experience
    there's no way a modern linux with dosemu can run TW2002. The DPMI
    issues you'll encounter render this basically impossible.

    see section 10.2 in the following...

    http://www.dosemu.org/docs/HOWTO/x503.html

    i've not tried it yet but do plan to when i move my existing (6 or 8) TW2002 games to my new setup on linux...


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  • From Ryan Fantus@1:218/820 to mark lewis on Tuesday, June 23, 2020 00:24:45
    i've not tried it yet but do plan to when i move my existing (6 or 8) TW2002 games to my new setup on linux...

    Sadly modern 64 bit linux kernels, like modern Windows and MacOS, have deprecated true backwards compatibility with 16 bit programs. This makes
    dosemu something of an exception to the rule since it still works in a lot of cases. That said, the DPMI stuff required by TW2002 will more than likely not work. The only way to make it work would be to use an old or custom compiled linux kernel (I haven't gotten a custom kernel to work), run an old linux distro and never upgrade (dangerous!), or run a 32 bit distro which may or
    may not be deprecated soon.

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  • From Michael Pedersen@3:770/3 to Alessandro Trebbi on Thursday, August 06, 2020 09:06:13
    On 21 Jun 2020, Alessandro Trebbi said the following...

    From: nospam.Alessandro.Trebbi@f313.n331.z2.binkp.net (Alessandro Trebbi)

    Is there a guide to install TradeWars 2002 in Mystic BBS ?

    I have written a guide to accomplish this in the Linux/64 bit version of Mystic. Currently have TW2002 V.3.09 running on my bbs natively without the need for an external door server (though I also have a BBSLink game running
    as well). The setup on windows would be different though possible if you are running a 32-Bit version of windows (which was my original approach by
    setting up a telnet session from the linux bbs to the windows machine using a telnet server and a batch file to copy the drop file).

    Do i need to connect to an external game server or it works standalone ? the game server solution may be good, so that several BBS may share the same game

    Door servers are great resources if you want the game to run. You could also purchase the TWGS version of the game and run a door server yourself and only allow your BBS to connect to it.

    Please tell me which are the exact releases to intall (my BBS runs on docker , ubuntu based, and i have installed dosemu too)

    Version 3.09 is probably the best version to run on, I use the DPMI version. Check out my guide for setting up TW2002 at:

    https://www.arcadiabbs.com/setting-up-tradewars-on-linux/

    I also wrote a guide for setting up Mystic and DOSEMU on Ubuntu 20.04 64/Bit which may give you some useful info (though it sounds like you are already
    set with the DOSEMU setup:

    https://www.arcadiabbs.com/ubuntu-20-04-64-bit-dosemu-setup/

    You are welcome to connect and check out the running game by connecting to
    the bbs at telnet://bbs.arcadiabbs.com

    Regards,
    Mike
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