• Micro Computer

    From IB Joe@1:342/200 to All on Wednesday, January 25, 2023 05:32:57
    I don't work in the Tech industry, my expertise lays outside of there. I bought a micro computer the other day to host the BBS on it and for the life of me I could NOT install a 32Bit version of windows 10 on it... There was 4 failed attempts. I went with the 64Bit version and installed the hack DLL file that will let me run 16Bit doors.

    Is there something I don't know about todays hardware that it would reject a 32Bit OS??

    I copied the BBS over to the new micro-server and it's complaining about the file needed SSL/SSH cryptlib is missing... Why can't a cut and paste work smoothly. The latest version of mystic was released just the other day correct?? I want to do a fresh install of the exes and dll files...

    Thanx

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  • From Kurt Weiske@1:218/700 to IB Joe on Wednesday, January 25, 2023 06:59:00
    IB Joe wrote to All <=-

    I don't work in the Tech industry, my expertise lays outside of there.
    I bought a micro computer the other day to host the BBS on it and for
    the life of me I could NOT install a 32Bit version of windows 10 on
    it... There was 4 failed attempts. I went with the 64Bit version and installed the hack DLL file that will let me run 16Bit doors.

    I've never heard of issues with 32-bit OSes on modern hardware. I'm
    running Windows 10/32 bit on my BBS, but I was running it on a 32-bit
    CPU, and now in a virtual machine.

    Is there something I don't know about todays hardware that it would
    reject a 32Bit OS??

    The only issues I've read about are on 64-bit systems with over 4GB of
    RAM installed.


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  • From g00r00@1:129/215 to IB Joe on Wednesday, January 25, 2023 10:22:38
    I copied the BBS over to the new micro-server and it's complaining about the file needed SSL/SSH cryptlib is missing... Why can't a cut and
    paste work smoothly. The latest version of mystic was released just the

    If you are switching between 32-bit and 64-bit then you'd need to replace the corresponding .dll files with their 32-bit or 64-bit versions.

    It is saying you don't have Cryptlib so that means you'd need to have cl64.dll in your Mystic directory for the 64-bit version of Mystic (or cl32.dll for Mystic 32-bit).

    Normally the installation program puts the proper .dll file there for you, but when you switch you need to do it yourself.

    If you have an unarchive copy of Mystic in a temp folder you can do "install extract cl64.dll c:\mystic" and it will extract cl64.dll to c:\mystic for you and that might clear up your message.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Kurt Weiske on Wednesday, January 25, 2023 09:12:29
    On 25 Jan 2023, Kurt Weiske said the following...

    IB Joe wrote to All <=-

    I don't work in the Tech industry, my expertise lays outside of there I bought a micro computer the other day to host the BBS on it and for the life of me I could NOT install a 32Bit version of windows 10 on it... There was 4 failed attempts. I went with the 64Bit version and installed the hack DLL file that will let me run 16Bit doors.

    I've never heard of issues with 32-bit OSes on modern hardware. I'm running Windows 10/32 bit on my BBS, but I was running it on a 32-bit
    CPU, and now in a virtual machine.

    Is there something I don't know about todays hardware that it would reject a 32Bit OS??

    The only issues I've read about are on 64-bit systems with over 4GB of
    RAM installed.


    I have no clue.... I tried 4 times to install the 32Bit version to no avail ... I have copied everything over and now it's not reading a file for the SSH to work..

    Thanx for the small note...

    IB Joe
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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to g00r00 on Wednesday, January 25, 2023 09:22:16
    On 25 Jan 2023, g00r00 said the following...

    I copied the BBS over to the new micro-server and it's complaining ab the file needed SSL/SSH cryptlib is missing... Why can't a cut and paste work smoothly. The latest version of mystic was released just

    If you are switching between 32-bit and 64-bit then you'd need to
    replace the corresponding .dll files with their 32-bit or 64-bit
    versions.

    It is saying you don't have Cryptlib so that means you'd need to have cl64.dll in your Mystic directory for the 64-bit version of Mystic (or cl32.dll for Mystic 32-bit).

    Normally the installation program puts the proper .dll file there for
    you, but when you switch you need to do it yourself.

    If you have an unarchive copy of Mystic in a temp folder you can do "install extract cl64.dll c:\mystic" and it will extract cl64.dll to c:\mystic for you and that might clear up your message.

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    OMG, I cannot just do something simple... Mystic was running on a Windows 10 64Bit... running great I might add... I bought a micro computer, AMD processor, windows 10 64Bit because the 32bit version would not install.

    I just copied it over and it started giving me grief about the SSH/SSL thing. I downloaded the latest version of mystic and updated the cl64.dll and it's still giving me static...

    :(

    IB Joe
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  • From Ryan Fantus@1:218/820 to IB Joe on Wednesday, January 25, 2023 11:43:45
    Is there something I don't know about todays hardware that it would
    reject a 32Bit OS??

    Sounds like maybe you have secure boot enabled and secure boot doesn't like the 32 bit OS. I could be wrong, this is a bit of a stab in the dark :/

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  • From g00r00@1:129/215 to IB Joe on Wednesday, January 25, 2023 16:37:13
    I just copied it over and it started giving me grief about the SSH/SSL thing. I downloaded the latest version of mystic and updated the
    cl64.dll and it's still giving me static...

    The instructions mention this too, but I don't remember if its still relevant:

    In addition to the .DLL file, Cryptlib may have a dependency on the Visual C++ runtime which may or may not need to be installed on your particular system. This depends on how the .DLL files themselves were compiled. If you have the appropriate .DLL file in the root Mystic BBS directory but you still get a message on server startup that says Cryptlib is not installed, then you likely need to install a Microsoft runtime that is required by Cryptlib (for example):

    https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=48145

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to g00r00 on Friday, January 27, 2023 07:30:04
    On 25 Jan 2023, g00r00 said the following...

    I just copied it over and it started giving me grief about the SSH/SS thing. I downloaded the latest version of mystic and updated the cl64.dll and it's still giving me static...

    The instructions mention this too, but I don't remember if its still relevant:

    In addition to the .DLL file, Cryptlib may have a dependency on the
    Visual C++ runtime which may or may not need to be installed on your particular system. This depends on how the .DLL files themselves were compiled. If you have the appropriate .DLL file in the root Mystic BBS directory but you still get a message on server startup that says
    Cryptlib is not installed, then you likely need to install a Microsoft runtime that is required by Cryptlib (for example):

    https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=48145

    This fixed the problem...

    Thanx

    IB Joe
    AKA Joe Schweier
    SysOp of Joe's BBS
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  • From g00r00@1:129/215 to IB Joe on Friday, January 27, 2023 13:18:14
    This fixed the problem...

    Thats great!

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