Hello, All.

I've not seen a message from anyone in two months in here - has it gotten that quiet out there? :/

Later,
Sean

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--- timEd/2 1.10.y2k+
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SEAN DENNIS wrote to ALL <=-

I've not seen a message from anyone in two months in here - has it
gotten that quiet out there? :/

OS/2 stuff is so solid that we don't have to discuss any problems :)


... "Do you know any Klingon opera?" - Worf
--- Telegard/2/QWK v3.09.g2-sp4/mL
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Hello Sean!

Tuesday September 26 2006 22:59, Sean Dennis wrote to All:

I've not seen a message from anyone in two months in here - has it
gotten that quiet out there? :/

Sadly, yes is has. :-(

Andrew

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Kevin Nunn wrote in a message to Sean Dennis:

OS/2 stuff is so solid that we don't have to discuss any problems
:)

True, true. <G> Hey, what's your setup for the VMODEM stuff in Telegard/2? Mine seems to hang for a short bit and use 100% CPU usage (but it does work).

Later,
Sean

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In a message dated 09-26-06, Sean Dennis said to All:

Hi Sean,

I've not seen a message from anyone in two months in here - has it
gotten that quiet out there? :/

It's a sad state in Fidonet. Not only OS/2 echoes are dying but the
entire traffic in Fidonet is becoming very thin.

The only OS/2 echoes that have some activity are OS2, OS2USER-L and
TEAMOS2. The rest are dead.

Have a nice day,

Holger
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Holger Granholm wrote in a message to Sean Dennis:

The only OS/2 echoes that have some activity are OS2, OS2USER-L and TEAMOS2. The rest are dead.

Unfortunately, there's not many of us left running OS/2, let alone running BBSes under OS/2.

Later,
Sean

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--- timEd/2 1.10.y2k+
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Replying to a message of Sean Dennis to All:

Hello, All.

I've not seen a message from anyone in two months in here - has it
gotten that quiet out there? :/

Well, the system's up and running and has been for a couple of years. I don't have any reason to change anything (don't fix it if it ain't broke) and I don't
have any problems or questions (at the moment).

Unlike another well-known operating system, with OS2 one doesn't have to upgrade all of one's applications if one installs a newer version of the OS.

--- FleetStreet 1.19+
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SEAN DENNIS wrote to KEVIN NUNN <=-

True, true. <G> Hey, what's your setup for the VMODEM stuff in Telegard/2? Mine seems to hang for a short bit and use 100% CPU usage (but it does work).

I'll have to look at see when I get home (if I remember). I remember
having really weird problems after I got things setup and had to end up
using com3 and com4 instead of com2 and com3. com2 was causing problems
with com1 (the dialup line), but that is the only problem I remember
having.

Kev


... * - Tribble ^*^ - Vulcan Tribble
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HOLGER GRANHOLM wrote to SEAN DENNIS <=-

It's a sad state in Fidonet. Not only OS/2 echoes are dying but the
entire traffic in Fidonet is becoming very thin.

OS2Net is much worse off, I don't think I have seen a message in the
English echos in months. And I think the last one I saw was a message
from me, Sean replied to it, but that was it.

Kev


... "I never lie when I have sand in my boots!" -- LaForge
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Kevin Nunn wrote in a message to Sean Dennis:

I'll have to look at see when I get home (if I remember). I
remember having really weird problems after I got things setup and
had to end up using com3 and com4 instead of com2 and com3. com2
was causing problems with com1 (the dialup line), but that is the
only problem I remember having.

I'm having problems with the modem init strings. It's really weird...takes about 20-30 seconds to hang up. I think that's what I'm needing.

Later,
Sean

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--- timEd/2 1.10.y2k+
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Hi Sean,

I'm having problems with the modem init strings. It's
really weird...takes about 20-30 seconds to hang up. I
think that's what I'm needing.

What method are you using for terminating the call? By far the best method is to drop DTR rather than rely on a modem control string (+++ATH0). However the catch with this is that your S/W must be able to be configured to drop DTR, Hold it DOWN for up to 3 seconds, then raise it again. Also the Modem must be able to be configured for this as well (yes I have seen some Modems that don't re-act to a DTR drop at all well).

Basically DTR must stay DOWN for whatever time the Modem requires to detect and
re-act to the dropping of DTR, and that seems to vary from Modem to Modem. My settings for BinkleyTerm are -
PreInit |v~^`|`
This does CR, DTR down, wait 1 second, raise DTR, wait 50ms, CR, wait 50ms.
Init `ATZ|~
This does Wait 200ms, ATZ, CR, Wait 1 second.
Hangup |`v''
This does CR, wait 200ms, DTR down, wait 100ms.

This has been tuned for optimum performance with my modem. Not all modems are equal in this respect.......;-)

Chers..................pk.


--- Maximus/2 3.01
* Origin: Another Good Point About OS/2 (3:772/1.10)

In a message dated 09-27-06, Kevin Nunn said to Sean Dennis:

Hi Kevin,

OS/2 stuff is so solid that we don't have to discuss any problems :)

You are sooo right but every once in a while somebody surfaces like
Sean who wants to know your Telegard/2/QWK setup.

Have a nice day,

Holger

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* MR/2 2.30 * Safe way to double money: Fold once and put in wallet.

--- PCBoard (R) v15.22 (OS/2) 2
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Peter Knapper wrote in a message to Sean Dennis:

Hi Sean,

What method are you using for terminating the call? By far the best
method is to drop DTR rather than rely on a modem control string (+++ATH0). However the catch with this is that your S/W must be

Well, this is for VMODEM. Here's my settings:

A. Modem description Node 2
B. Communication port COM2
C. Port information IRQ 2, Base I/O address 2F8
D. Maximum BPS rate 57600 bps
E. Locked BPS rate Locked at 57600 bps
F. Init command "~~~~~~ATZ"
G. Answer command "ATA"
H. Hangup command "~~~ATH0"
I. Offhook command "ATM0H1"

J. Flow control type XON/XOFF (sw)
K. Re-init timing 255 mins
L. Command delay 0.5 secs
M. Answer delay 0.5 secs
N. DTR drop delay 0.5 secs
O. Hangup w/DTR toggle No
P. Fossil in OS shell Active
R. Answer after ring 1
S. Ring counter reset N/A

Maybe this would clear it up a bit. :)

Later,
Sean

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--- timEd/2 1.10.y2k+
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Hi Sean,

What method are you using for terminating the call? By far the best
method is to drop DTR rather than rely on a modem control string (+++ATH0). However the catch with this is that your S/W must be

Well, this is for VMODEM. Here's my settings:

A. Modem description Node 2
B. Communication port COM2
C. Port information IRQ 2, Base I/O address 2F8
D. Maximum BPS rate 57600 bps
E. Locked BPS rate Locked at 57600 bps
F. Init command "~~~~~~ATZ"
G. Answer command "ATA"
H. Hangup command "~~~ATH0"

Try adding a delay AFTER the Hangup (ATH0), whatever your comms program is talking to the port, it may be trying to re-active the port too quick for VMODEM to react/respond...

I. Offhook command "ATM0H1"

J. Flow control type XON/XOFF (sw)
K. Re-init timing 255 mins
L. Command delay 0.5 secs
M. Answer delay 0.5 secs
N. DTR drop delay 0.5 secs

Try increasing this to 1-2 seconds and see if that helps. Sometimes speed kills.......;-)

O. Hangup w/DTR toggle No

And try setting this to Yes and see how it goes...

P. Fossil in OS shell Active
R. Answer after ring 1
S. Ring counter reset N/A

Cheers............pk.


--- Maximus/2 3.01
* Origin: Another Good Point About OS/2 (3:772/1.10)

*** Quoting Sean Dennis to All dated 09-26-06 ***

I've not seen a message from anyone in two months in here - has it
gotten that quiet out there? :/

Sad but true.
Fido is dwindling down. :{
Not much better in STN.

Rich
I-Net turtil@frontiernet.net


... Advertising is legalized lying. - H.G. Wells
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Holger Granholm wrote in a message to Kevin Nunn:

You are sooo right but every once in a while somebody surfaces like
Sean who wants to know your Telegard/2/QWK setup.

Being the moderator and all, I guess I should generate a little traffic, right?
:)

Later,
Sean

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--- timEd/2 1.10.y2k+
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HOLGER GRANHOLM wrote to KEVIN NUNN <=-

You are sooo right but every once in a while somebody surfaces like
Sean who wants to know your Telegard/2/QWK setup.

Very true, maybe we should share our tweaks as well. I am really
satisfied with the way my /2 box is running. Got USB working pretty
well, although I hardly use it, internal zip disk is working. I'd still
like to tweak my desktop more.

As for QWK, man I sure miss TGWave! I can't get that sucker working and
TG's built QWK could use updating, but I guess I'll have to live with it
for now.

Kev


... !(a+b) = !a * !b =0
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RICH WONNEBERGER wrote to SEAN DENNIS <=-

Sad but true.
Fido is dwindling down. :{
Not much better in STN.

Not much better in any network as far as I can tell :)

Kev


... (((((((HYPNOTIC)))))))(((((((TAGLINE)))))))
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SEAN DENNIS wrote to KEVIN NUNN <=-

I'm having problems with the modem init strings. It's really weird...takes about 20-30 seconds to hang up. I think that's what I'm needing.

I knew I would forget to look LOL. email me at sysop@razorsdomain.com to
remind me. I think I am just using ATZ as the init string, but I'll
have to look. The init string for my courier is massive, but you don't
have dialup right now, or atleast I remember reading something about
that.

Kev


... "Star Trek VII: JFK" directed by Oliver Stone!
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Kevin Nunn wrote in a message to Holger Granholm:

As for QWK, man I sure miss TGWave! I can't get that sucker working
and TG's built QWK could use updating, but I guess I'll have to
live with it for now.

I know someone who has the source (or so they say)...let me see if I can get hold of them.

Later,
Sean

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Hi Sean,

Being the moderator and all, I guess I should generate
a little traffic, right? :)

Nope... traffic is not wanted if its just waffle, its GOT to be interesting...........;-)

Cheers.............pk.


--- Maximus/2 3.01
* Origin: Another Good Point About OS/2 (3:772/1.10)

In a message dated 09-28-06, Kevin Nunn said to Holger Granholm:

Hi Kevin,

OS2Net is much worse off, I don't think I have seen a message in the KN>English echos in months. And I think the last one I saw was a
message from me, Sean replied to it, but that was it.

That's an echo that never has been available here. OS2INET was available
but since there was no traffic in it I unsubscribed it May 2nd 2005.

Have a nice day,

Holger

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In a message dated 09-28-06, Sean Dennis said to Holger Granholm:

Hi Sean,

Unfortunately, there's not many of us left running OS/2, let alone SD>running BBSes under OS/2.

When we oldtimers have passed away nobody will know that there existed
an OS by the name OS/2, Warp or eCS.

It surprises me that eCS has not even tried to market the OS in other countries. IBM had OS/2 available at least in all countries they were represented in. Even more surprising is that IBM let go of OS/2.

My present hub runs WinXP with NTFS but says that he is happy if it
runs 2 weeks without interruption.

Regards,

Holger

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Hi Holger,

When we oldtimers have passed away nobody will know that there existed
an OS by the name OS/2, Warp or eCS.

We have pretty much reached that stage already. When I tell people (mainly technical people), that I dont use Windows, most of the words OS/2, Warp and eCS are unknown to about 80% of them. Yesterday I was talking to a Dell engineer fixing my work Laptop, and he didn't like Windows so at his home he used linux, and yes, he had heard of OS/2 but didnt really know what it was........;-)

It surprises me that eCS has not even tried to market the OS in other countries.

Europe is still a major part of the OS/2 world, thats why eCS does well there.

Cheers...............pk.

--- Maximus/2 3.01
* Origin: Another Good Point About OS/2 (3:772/1.10)

Holger Granholm wrote in a message to Kevin Nunn:

That's an echo that never has been available here. OS2INET was

OS2Net is a seperate network run by Kaare Olsen out of Denmark.

Later,
Sean

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--- timEd/2 1.10.y2k+
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Holger Granholm wrote in a message to Sean Dennis:

When we oldtimers have passed away nobody will know that there
existed an OS by the name OS/2, Warp or eCS.

Sadly, I agree with you. Even some of these computer science professors I'm working with don't know anything about OS/2. Most of them are shocked that I still program in Pascal.

It surprises me that eCS has not even tried to market the OS in
other countries. IBM had OS/2 available at least in all countries
they were represented in. Even more surprising is that IBM let go
of OS/2.

Supposedly they're marketing it in Germany, but I've not seen anything. I don't think they have much of an advertising budget anyway. I'd think you'd try to get the word out by advertising in trade magazines, other websites or even a Google ad.

My present hub runs WinXP with NTFS but says that he is happy if it
runs 2 weeks without interruption.

My W2K box runs very nicely for months on end, but I still reboot it at least once a month to make sure that all is well. It's some of these poorly-written programs that cause problems on occasion.

Later,
Sean

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Peter Knapper wrote in a message to Holger Granholm:

he had heard of OS/2 but didnt really know what it was........;-)

That's a reaction I commonly get. :)

Europe is still a major part of the OS/2 world, thats why eCS does
well there.

If you notice, nearly all the new programs and development for OS/2-eCS comes from Europe and Russia. Barely any comes from the US.

Later,
Sean

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--- timEd/2 1.10.y2k+
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Dans un message de Holger Granholm a Sean Dennis:

they were represented in. Even more surprising is that IBM let go
of OS/2.

Know of where I can read the story on how IBM did let OS/2 go? I've googled to no avail.

Salut.

JC

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Jean-Claude Dumas wrote in a message to Holger Granholm:

Know of where I can read the story on how IBM did let OS/2 go? I've googled to no avail.

Try:

http://www.wikipedia.org

Search for OS/2. Decent article on it in there.

Later,
Sean

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--- timEd/2 1.10.y2k+
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Peter Knapper wrote in a message to Sean Dennis:

Had to let things set for a day or so before I could get to the BBS. :)

Try increasing this to 1-2 seconds and see if that helps. Sometimes
speed kills.......;-)

Your advice helped a lot. :) I appreciate it. It now hangs up in about three seconds instead of ten.

Later,
Sean

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--- timEd/2 1.10.y2k+
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Replying to a message from Sean Dennis 1:18/200 to Holger Granholm,

About Quiet!, On Sat Sep 30 2006

That's an echo that never has been available here. OS2INET was

OS2Net is a seperate network run by Kaare Olsen out of Denmark.

Take a closer look, Holger said OS2INET not OS2NET..

Hope this helps. Keep us posted.

We are a fine board trying to make it better.
http://www.pris.bc.ca/ghannah
ghannah@pris.bc.ca
Cheers! Gord
-=Team OS/2=-
--- timEd/2 1.10.y2k+
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Gord Hannah wrote in a message to Sean Dennis:

Take a closer look, Holger said OS2INET not OS2NET..

You might need to take a closer look yourself, Gord. Holger misread the original message as you did too, evidently:

===Cut===
In a message dated 09-28-06, Kevin Nunn said to Holger Granholm:

Hi Kevin,

OS2Net is much worse off, I don't think I have seen a message in the KN>English echos in months. And I think the last one I saw was a
message from me, Sean replied to it, but that was it.

That's an echo that never has been available here. OS2INET was available
but since there was no traffic in it I unsubscribed it May 2nd 2005.

Have a nice day,

Holger
===Cut===

Did you ever see an echo called OS2Net? You should know what OS2Net since you are/were a member of it. Holger misread the original message plain and simple.
Next time, check YOUR facts before telling me I'm wrong, please.

Later,
Sean

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--- timEd/2 1.10.y2k+
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In a message dated 09-29-06, Kevin Nunn said to Holger Granholm:

Hi Kev,

Got USB working pretty well, although I hardly use it, internal zip
disk is working.

Tell me more about USB on OS/2. I'd like to be able to use memory
sticks.

Other than that I do have the computer set up for USB printer and also
have drivers for other USB appliances but not for USB sticks.

The MoBo I have sports USB v1.1. I know I could plug in an expansion
card to up it to v2.0.

Have a nice day,

Holger

___
* MR/2 2.30 * It's not a bug, it's an undocumented feature!


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Replying to a message of Holger Granholm to Sean Dennis:

My present hub runs WinXP with NTFS but says that he is happy if it
runs 2 weeks without interruption.

One company I used to work for had an NT based network. I worked the night shift
and often weekends and it was not unusual for me to notice a BSOD on one or more
of the servers - on a LAN that had been idle for hours if not days with no traffic other
than whatever housekeeping tasks that M$ and Cisco do. Apparently M$ did fix the
problem - instead of sitting on a BSOD until a human intervenes to restart the system,
on its more recent releases M$ now automatically initiates a reboot sequence.

--- FleetStreet 1.19+
* Origin: Bob's Boneyard, Emerson, Iowa (1:2905/3)

Hi Holger,

Got USB working pretty well, although I hardly use it, internal zip
disk is working.

Tell me more about USB on OS/2. I'd like to be able to use memory
sticks.

My own experience with memory sticks in a Camera was rather disappointing, however I found a VERY workable solution........;-)

The catch with Memory sticks that look like HD's is that they need to be formated as FAT or FAT32. The "problem" with this is that the OS/2 FAT32 driver
only seems to work for PARTITIONED media, so you need to PARTITION the Memory Stick first, however standard OS/2 tools won't let you do this for removable media devices (such as USB memory sticks).

The work around for this is to use 3rd party tools to partition them such as DFSEE, and then format them using a Wndwos environemtn (OS/2 FAT32 does not have a Format last time I checked) however you then run into another issue in that if you the stick is formatted in the Camera you loose the partitioning,meaning you have to go through the process again.

A Better solution (IMHO) is to flip my Camera into PTP mode and use the OS/2 program Cameraderie (available on Hobbes) that "talks" natively (IE no specific
drivers required) to the Camera via USB and leaves the Memory card in the Windows native mode. This works extremely well for me and completely avoids all
the issues I ran into.

Other than that I do have the computer set up for USB printer and also have drivers for other USB appliances but not for USB sticks.

However if its just a stick and not attaached to a Camera then you may stil be stuck with teh other method. It works but I found it rather clunky to get working reliably.

The MoBo I have sports USB v1.1. I know I could plug in an expansion
card to up it to v2.0.

Likewise my USB is on a 1.2 Motherboard and it works fine for me.

Cheers................pk.


--- Maximus/2 3.01
* Origin: Another Good Point About OS/2 (3:772/1.10)

Am 30.09.06 11:47 schrieb Sean Dennis

It surprises me that eCS has not even tried to market the OS in
other countries.

That's not true. eCS release is available in
- english (default)
- german
- dutch
- italian

It will be availabe shortenly in
- russian
- traditional chinese

Translation is a big, hard work. So it costs a lot of time to get translations done. So other languages will follow over time.

IBM had OS/2 available at least in all countries they were
represented in. Even more surprising is that IBM let go of OS/2.

IBM OS/2 is dead, no question. eCS developement is an ongoing work.

Supposedly they're marketing it in Germany, but I've not seen
anything.

eCS in germany:
http://ecomstation.de (german only)
eCS in russsian:
http://ecomstation.ru (speaks russian, english, german and some other languages


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Replying to a message from Sean Dennis 1:18/200 to Gord Hannah,

About Quiet!, On Sun Oct 01 2006

You might need to take a closer look yourself, Gord. Holger misread

I stand corrected.

Hope this helps. Keep us posted.

We are a fine board trying to make it better.
http://www.pris.bc.ca/ghannah
ghannah@pris.bc.ca
Cheers! Gord
-=Team OS/2=-
--- timEd/2 1.10.y2k+
* Origin: Marsh BBS (c), Dawson Creek, BC Canada (1:17/23.1)

Bob Ackley wrote in a message to Holger Granholm:

on its more recent releases M$ now automatically initiates a reboot sequence.

You could do that in NT also, but once again, it required a human to go in and tell the system to do that. <G>

Later,
Sean

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--- timEd/2 1.10.y2k+
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In a message dated 09-30-06, Sean Dennis said to Peter Knapper:

If you notice, nearly all the new programs and development for
OS/2-eCS comes from Europe and Russia. Barely any comes from the
US.

For heavens sake, don't forget Paul Smedley in Australia.

Have a nice day,

Holger

___
* MR/2 2.30 * Windows isn't an operating system - OS/2 is.

--- PCBoard (R) v15.22 (OS/2) 2
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In a message dated 09-30-06, Peter Knapper said to Holger Granholm:

Hi Peter,

Europe is still a major part of the OS/2 world, thats why eCS does
well there.

I don't see any advertisements mentioning OS/2 or eCS in european
computer magazines. The only ads are from mouth to mouth and unless
the ears are in perfect condition even that is fruitless.

OTOH, Linux seems to take over some of the Windows operating systems
even without much advertising but the computer magazines do compare
and test various incarnations of it which keeps the techies up todate.

No mention of OS/2 though even though programs are presented that are
also available in OS/2 versions but Mac is mentioned.

Have a nice day,

Holger

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Hi Holger,

Europe is still a major part of the OS/2 world, thats why eCS does
well there.

I don't see any advertisements mentioning OS/2 or eCS in european
computer magazines. The only ads are from mouth to mouth and unless
the ears are in perfect condition even that is fruitless.

However thats the point, a really good product is one that does not need to be "in your face" a lot, it sells itself.

OTOH, Linux seems to take over some of the Windows operating systems
even without much advertising but the computer magazines do compare
and test various incarnations of it which keeps the techies up todate.

And that interest as come fom people who have experienced Linux and share their
enthusiasm naturally. A common mantra for sales is "a good product sells itself", and thats how I view both OS/2 and Linux.

Cheers............pk.


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Holger Granholm wrote in a message to Sean Dennis:

For heavens sake, don't forget Paul Smedley in Australia.

Oh, that's where he's from? Isn't he single-handedly porting over half the applications from Linux? <G>

Later,
Sean

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In a message dated 10-02-06, Peter Knapper said to Holger Granholm:

Hi Peter,

Tell me more about USB on OS/2. I'd like to be able to use memory
sticks.

The catch with Memory sticks that look like HD's is that they need
to be formated as FAT or FAT32. The "problem" with this is that the
OS/2 FAT32 driver only seems to work for PARTITIONED media, so you
need to PARTITION the Memory Stick first, however standard OS/2
tools won't let you do this for removable media devices (such as USB PK>memory sticks).

OK, I want it to look like a HD so I can make backups to it(them).
Apparently I'll have to bother one of my daughters to get it partitioned
and formated. FAT is good enough for me.

A Better solution (IMHO) is to flip my Camera into PTP mode and use
the OS/2 program Cameraderie (available on Hobbes) that "talks"
natively (IE no specific drivers required) to the Camera via USB and PK>leaves the Memory card in the Windows native mode.

I don't trust any magnetic or CD media for long time storage so what
I photograph I do it with film cameras. Even color negatives can be
stored for many tens of years and black and white for maybe hundreds.

Thanks for your advice and experience. I have saved the message.

Have a nice day,

Holger

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In a message dated 10-01-06, Herbert Rosenau said to Sean Dennis:

Herbert,

It surprises me that eCS has not even tried to market the OS in
other countries.

That's not true. eCS release is available in
- english (default)
- german
- dutch
- italian

It will be availabe shortenly in
- russian
- traditional chinese

Please note that I wrote market the OS in other countries. That doesn't
mean that it wouldn't be available in other languages but rather that
there is no sales push (advertising) in any of the computer magazines
in any country.

Have a nice day,

Holger

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HOLGER GRANHOLM wrote to KEVIN NUNN <=-

Tell me more about USB on OS/2. I'd like to be able to use memory
sticks.

Other than that I do have the computer set up for USB printer and also have drivers for other USB appliances but not for USB sticks.

Well if you have those USB devices working, the sticks should not be
much more of a problem. I'd have to check my setup (currently at work),
but I think I had to load up a usb drive driver, then a SCSi driver or something. Been so long since I set it up. I'll make a note to look at
it and post in here how it is setup.

Kev


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In a message dated 10-03-06, Kevin Nunn said to Holger Granholm:

Hi Kev,

Well if you have those USB devices working, the sticks should not be
much more of a problem. I'd have to check my setup (currently at
work), but I think I had to load up a usb drive driver, then a SCSi KN>driver or something. Been so long since I set it up. I'll make a
note to look at it and post in here how it is setup.

I think that i need USBMSD.ADD in the config.sys file.
The USBMSD.ADD I have available is dated Aug. 1999.
Everything here is SCSI.

Have a nice day,

Holger

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HOLGER GRANHOLM wrote to KEVIN NUNN <=-

I think that i need USBMSD.ADD in the config.sys file.
The USBMSD.ADD I have available is dated Aug. 1999.
Everything here is SCSI.

I did glance at it yesterday, and I had several USB*.* devices and I do
recall MSD being one of them. I don't use my USB stick much on that
computer, but it has/did work. I'd have to check the date on my
USBMSD.ADD file, I am running eCS 1.2, but it still might be an older
IBM file.


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