• WILDCAT4.2/WARP4/WSEB

    From Rich Wonneberger@1:2625/50 to Doug Hood on Wednesday, April 17, 2002 13:15:18
    *** Quoting Doug Hood to All dated 04-16-02 ***
    Any of you guys running a DOS BBS on Warp4?

    I'm running Nebeaux on Warp3fp40/LANtastic1.12 and it is

    Doug,

    I run TAG and Front Door under Warp-4.
    Started with Warp 3 many years ago. I also bought 1 license of Lantastic/2 just to see what it was like. Drove me nuttier then I already am. :}

    I also have TCP/IP set up for Netscrape.

    Rich
    I-Net turtil@frontiernet.net


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  • From Chris Martin@1:219/308 to Sean Dennis on Wednesday, April 17, 2002 11:40:34
    Once upon a time, out on MARS.

    While reading the mail, wispering this:

    Replying to a message of Doug Hood to All:

    Actually, what really killed 'em in my mind was when they
    refused to continue development of their excellent OS/2
    product, but that's really a side issue now. The real
    issue is that I want to convert my DOS BBS from Warp3 to
    Warp4/WSeB, and I just *know* I'm going to want a couple
    of gurus on this'n. :-)

    Y'need to find Chris Martin. He's running WC! under Warp 4, IIRC.

    Not quite yet, Sean, I do have a copy of W4 and the FP's but
    haven't tried to upgrade the OS on the antique BBS machine yet.
    Waiting for it to kinda die (CPU/etc) so I can transfer the HD
    and minimal hardwre to a newer machine. That would be the time
    for me to upgrade, as the W3 fp42 system is so stable, right now.

    Good to hear from ya though... :*)

    Chris Martin, The MARS Station BBS

    * WCE 2.1G1/2419 * A doctor enjoys poor health.

    --- ViaMAIL!/WC v1.60d
    * Origin: From an Echo heard on MARS. Call to be transported. (1:219/308)
  • From Doug Hood@1:105/55 to Sean Dennis on Thursday, April 18, 2002 13:55:11
    Replying to a message of Doug Hood to All:

    Actually, what really killed 'em in my mind was when they
    refused to continue development of their excellent OS/2
    product, but that's really a side issue now. The real
    issue is that I want to convert my DOS BBS from Warp3 to
    Warp4/WSeB, and I just *know* I'm going to want a couple
    of gurus on this'n. :-)

    Y'need to find Chris Martin. He's running WC! under Warp 4, IIRC.

    I'm pretty sure I "talked" with Chris a while back when I
    was trying to get my Fido feed running. He steered me to
    ViaMail (which, wonder of wonders, is how I'm "talkin'" to
    you now :). ViaMail works great on Warp3/LANtastic right
    now, but I sure had fits with it on WSeB and SIO2k.

    Smiley



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  • From Doug Hood@1:105/55 to Rich Wonneberger on Thursday, April 18, 2002 13:55:12
    *** Quoting Doug Hood to All dated 04-16-02 ***
    Any of you guys running a DOS BBS on Warp4?

    I'm running Nebeaux on Warp3fp40/LANtastic1.12 and it is

    Doug,

    I run TAG and Front Door under Warp-4.
    Started with Warp 3 many years ago. I also bought 1 license of Lantastic/2 just to see what it was like. Drove me nuttier then I already am. :}

    TAG is a DOS board? Forgive my ignorance, but my
    experience as a SysOp started with GTPowerComm v9 until I
    graduated to Wildcat v4.01 in '94. My development got
    pretty arrested at that point since I get violently ill at
    the prospect of relying on a WinDoze OS for anything more
    important than solitaire or JoeCartoon.com. :-)

    I also have TCP/IP set up for Netscrape.

    OOOoooof, I remember the multiple tens of hours I put into
    making LANtastic and IBM's TCP/IP work together on a Warp3
    box back in the bad ol' days when I was running Nebeaux on
    a pair of 286 DOS boxen and a single Warp3 386. Man, that
    was a *bad* time, but I did finally beat it.

    Are you running the v4.5 Warp kernel on your system?

    Smiley




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  • From Sean Dennis@1:11/200 to Doug Hood on Friday, April 19, 2002 09:20:06
    Hello, Doug!

    Replying to a message of Doug Hood to Sean Dennis:

    you now :). ViaMail works great on Warp3/LANtastic right
    now, but I sure had fits with it on WSeB and SIO2k.

    I have heard really, really bad things about SIO2K. I know someone who even registered it and disliked it so much, he went back to 1.60d!

    Later,
    Sean

    // hausmaus@midnightshour.org | http://midnightshour.org | ICQ: 19965647

    --- FleetStreet 1.27.1
    * Origin: Midnight's Hour BBS - Carbondale, IL - 618-529-3176 (1:11/200)
  • From Chris Martin@1:219/308 to Sean Dennis on Friday, April 19, 2002 09:57:58
    Once upon a time, out on MARS.

    While reading the mail, wispering this:

    Replying to a message of Doug Hood to Sean Dennis:

    you now :). ViaMail works great on Warp3/LANtastic right
    now, but I sure had fits with it on WSeB and SIO2k.

    I have heard really, really bad things about SIO2K. I know someone who eve
    n
    registered it and disliked it so much, he went back to 1.60d!

    He he he, must be why my ViaMail/WC system likes Warp3/SIO so
    well, both VM and SIO are at 1.60d ! :*)

    Chris Martin, The MARS Station BBS

    * WCE 2.1G1/2419 * A new "Health Bill"? Did we have an old one?

    --- ViaMAIL!/WC v1.60d
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  • From Rich Wonneberger@1:2625/50 to Doug Hood on Saturday, April 20, 2002 02:06:21
    *** Quoting Doug Hood to Rich Wonneberger dated 04-18-02 ***
    TAG is a DOS board? Forgive my ignorance, but my
    experience as a SysOp started with GTPowerComm v9 until I
    graduated to Wildcat v4.01 in '94. My development got

    Doug,

    Yes, TAG is a DOS board. All my BBS stuff is DOS based.
    I dont know anything about W-Cat. :{

    *** Quoting Doug Hood to Rich Wonneberger dated 04-18-02 ***
    I also have TCP/IP set up for Netscrape.

    OOOoooof, I remember the multiple tens of hours I put into
    making LANtastic and IBM's TCP/IP work together on a Warp3
    box back in the bad ol' days when I was running Nebeaux on

    Actually, I never used TCP/IP on Warp 3, but it did take a bit of head scratching to get it going when I first got Warp 4. Once I realized the systems could 'ping' each other I knew I was close. I found I needed to install TCP/IP first, then NETBIOS to see the Windy boxes.

    *** Quoting Doug Hood to Rich Wonneberger dated 04-18-02 ***
    Are you running the v4.5 Warp kernel on your system?

    Not on the board. There has been some good and bad chatter about it and I just dont have the time to work on it. I did start setting up a box with it at FP 14 or 15, but never copied the board & utilities over to it.
    I got side tracked with eCS and SIO2K and have been running in circles with a fossil problem with Front Door.
    I suspect I need the latest FP for it and havent had time to install it.

    *** Quoting Doug Hood to Rich Wonneberger dated 04-18-02 ***
    ■ RM 1.31 3366 ■ Pizza, like Sex; Good=Great! Bad=still pretty good.

    You never had Puggies Pizza. Repeated on me for 2 days. :{

    Rich
    I-Net turtil@frontiernet.net


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  • From Rich Wonneberger@1:2625/50 to Doug Hood on Saturday, April 20, 2002 02:08:45
    *** Quoting Doug Hood to Sean Dennis dated 04-18-02 ***
    now, but I sure had fits with it on WSeB and SIO2k.

    Doug,

    I have problems with eCS and SIO2K. Front Door (DOS) wont detect the fossil. Tried the older SIO, same thing.

    Rich
    I-Net turtil@frontiernet.net


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  • From Sean Dennis@1:11/200 to Chris Martin on Saturday, April 20, 2002 02:41:16
    Hello, Chris!

    Replying to a message of Chris Martin to Sean Dennis:

    He he he, must be why my ViaMail/WC system likes Warp3/SIO so
    well, both VM and SIO are at 1.60d ! :*)

    Yeah, I've never heard a positive comment about SIO2K. I honestly cannot make an opinion because I've never installed it.

    Later,
    Sean

    // hausmaus@midnightshour.org | http://midnightshour.org | ICQ: 19965647

    --- FleetStreet 1.27.1
    * Origin: Midnight's Hour BBS - Carbondale, IL - 618-529-3176 (1:11/200)
  • From Doug Hood@1:105/55 to Chris Martin on Sunday, April 21, 2002 13:49:17
    Y'need to find Chris Martin. He's running WC! under Warp 4, IIRC.

    Not quite yet, Sean, I do have a copy of W4 and the FP's but
    haven't tried to upgrade the OS on the antique BBS machine yet.
    Waiting for it to kinda die (CPU/etc) so I can transfer the HD
    and minimal hardwre to a newer machine. That would be the time
    for me to upgrade, as the W3 fp42 system is so stable, right now.

    Good to hear from ya though... :*)

    Chris Martin, The MARS Station BBS

    It's really hard to get excited about doing an upgrade on
    a system that just works isn't it? :-)

    I lost a hard drive on the master BBS server, that's what
    spurred me to try the Warp4/WSeB upgrade. After a week of
    downtime and horrible fits, I finally threw in the towel
    and rebuilt my three old Warp3/LANtastic boxen and brought
    Nebeaux back up on the old platform.

    It leaves me with no "evolutionary upgrade" path though,
    I'm stuck with two completely incompatible networks. The
    Warp3 boxen can't "see" the WSeB server and the Warp4 boxen
    can't "see" the LANtastic network. I guess I could try to
    build a Warp3 box and just use Connect as the NOS, but it
    would still require an "all or nothing" approach to the
    experiment.

    You're using Warp Connect to run your BBS? How many boxes?

    Smiley



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  • From Chris Martin@1:219/308 to Doug Hood on Sunday, April 21, 2002 22:23:30
    Once upon a time, out on MARS.

    While reading the mail, wispering this:

    Y'need to find Chris Martin. He's running WC! under Warp 4, IIRC.

    Not quite yet, Sean, I do have a copy of W4 and the FP's but
    haven't tried to upgrade the OS on the antique BBS machine yet.
    Waiting for it to kinda die (CPU/etc) so I can transfer the HD
    and minimal hardwre to a newer machine. That would be the time
    for me to upgrade, as the W3 fp42 system is so stable, right now.

    It's really hard to get excited about doing an upgrade on
    a system that just works isn't it? :-)

    Yup..

    I lost a hard drive on the master BBS server, that's what
    spurred me to try the Warp4/WSeB upgrade. After a week of
    downtime and horrible fits, I finally threw in the towel
    and rebuilt my three old Warp3/LANtastic boxen and brought
    Nebeaux back up on the old platform.

    I've heard there are numerous issues with Warp4.5 and SIO2K. Some
    have stepped back to W4 and SIO1.60d, others as far back as W3.

    It leaves me with no "evolutionary upgrade" path though,
    I'm stuck with two completely incompatible networks. The
    Warp3 boxen can't "see" the WSeB server and the Warp4 boxen
    can't "see" the LANtastic network. I guess I could try to
    build a Warp3 box and just use Connect as the NOS, but it
    would still require an "all or nothing" approach to the
    experiment.

    Dang, you'd think IP would be able to see IP.. Must be someway to
    do that. Something that you've overlooked or missed.

    You're using Warp Connect to run your BBS? How many boxes?

    Warp3 FP42 on the ancient 486 machine, one box, one dialup right
    now. No probable date for any broadband where I live, at least
    for the forseeable future... :*(

    Chris Martin, The MARS Station BBS

    * WCE 2.1G1/2419 * Schizophrenia beats sysoping alone.

    --- ViaMAIL!/WC v1.60d
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  • From Lawrence R. Mintz@1:109/493 to Chris Martin on Monday, April 22, 2002 13:47:00
    Yeah, I've never heard a positive comment about SIO2K. I honestly cannot SD>> m
    ake
    an opinion because I've never installed it.

    I've heard a couple of good ones, and many bad ones.
    Seems it may
    be hardware/software FP level sensitive. The few good
    ones I read
    that they had to update a couple of other things, I don't
    recall
    what, but whatever they did, worked.

    Chalk my system up as one of the failures, then, since I can not get SIO2K to work with FD 2.33/commercial. SIO 1.60d works just fine, however, with this version of Warp 4, FP 13 system, running on an old Gateway 486/33 machine. I've
    even communicated with Ray Gwinn about the subject, with no resolution.

    Larry

    --- FastEcho 1.46+
    * Origin: Mintz BBS, Silver Spring, MD (1:109/493)
  • From Doug Hood@1:105/55 to Chris Martin on Tuesday, April 23, 2002 13:52:42
    It leaves me with no "evolutionary upgrade" path
    though, I'm stuck with two completely incompatible
    networks. The Warp3 boxen can't "see" the WSeB
    server and the Warp4 boxen can't "see" the
    LANtastic network. I guess I could try to build a
    Warp3 box and just use Connect as the NOS, but it
    would still require an "all or nothing" approach to
    the experiment.

    Dang, you'd think IP would be able to see IP.. Must be
    someway to do that. Something that you've overlooked or
    missed.

    Actually you make a valid point. I haven't tried to load
    TCPbeui on those poor ol' Warp3 boxen. That might well be
    a way to accomplish this thing on my "evolutionary" means.
    If I could see the WSeB box through TCPbeui, I could then
    start experimenting with a Warp4 box seeing the WSeB server
    through NetBios. HMMMmmm.

    You might well have started something Chris.

    Smiley




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