Hi Simon.

31-Jul-02 18:52:36, Simon Woodland wrote to Exodus

Hello Exodus!

On 31/07/2002, Exodus wrote to All:

Anything ever happen in this echo?

I was wondering that myself ;-)

Regards, Simon Woodland

Once upon a time this was the place to ask newbie pascal questions...
it's been pretty quiet recently.

Bye <=-

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Hello Jasen!

On 01/08/2002, Jasen Betts wrote to Simon Woodland:

Once upon a time this was the place to ask newbie pascal
questions...
it's been pretty quiet recently.

I have also noticed the delphi echo's are equally as quiet.



Regards,
Simon Woodland

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Anything ever happen in this echo?

I was wondering that myself ;-)

Regards, Simon Woodland

Once upon a time this was the place to ask newbie pascal
questions... it's been pretty quiet recently.

yeah, not many worthwhile newbie pascal programmers any more ;-(

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Hello mark!

On 12/08/2002, mark lewis wrote to Jasen Betts:

Anything ever happen in this echo?

I was wondering that myself ;-)

Regards, Simon Woodland

Once upon a time this was the place to ask newbie pascal
questions... it's been pretty quiet recently.

yeah, not many worthwhile newbie pascal programmers any more ;-(

They dont seem to have moved over to the delphi echo's either :-(

Regards,
Simon Woodland

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Anything ever happen in this echo?

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Hello Exodus!

On 31/07/2002, Exodus wrote to All:

Anything ever happen in this echo?

I was wondering that myself ;-)


Regards,
Simon Woodland

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Anything ever happen in this echo?

sure... when questions are asked, they are generally answered... if the question is about pascal programming, it is answered in a general manner that someone learning the language can understand... the level of discussion is no where near as "deep" as what one may find in the PASCAL echo...

PS: if you are the sysop of 1:129/305 (T.J. McMillen Jr.),
please configure your software to use real names in this echo... if not, please

ask your sysop to do this... if it cannot be done, then please sign your messages with your real name...

thanks!

)\/(ark
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PS: if you are the sysop of 1:129/305 (T.J. McMillen Jr.),
please configure your software to use real names in this echo... if not, please ask your sysop to do this... if it cannot be done, then please sign your messages with your real name...

Better? <G>

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Not much ... usually just the rules postings. :)

Cheers ...

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PS: if you are the sysop of 1:129/305 (T.J. McMillen Jr.),
please configure your software to use real names in this
echo... if not, please ask your sysop to do this... if it
cannot be done, then please sign your messages with your
real name...

Better? <G>

yes, thanks!

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Quoting Exodus to All <=-

@MSGID: 1:129/305 a9475898
Anything ever happen in this echo?

Sure.


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Hi Simon.

31-Jul-02 18:52:36, Simon Woodland wrote to Exodus

Hello Exodus!

On 31/07/2002, Exodus wrote to All:

Anything ever happen in this echo?

I was wondering that myself ;-)

Regards, Simon Woodland

Once upon a time this was the place to ask newbie pascal questions...
it's been pretty quiet recently.

Bye <=-

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Hello Jasen!

On 01/08/2002, Jasen Betts wrote to Simon Woodland:

Once upon a time this was the place to ask newbie pascal
questions...
it's been pretty quiet recently.

I have also noticed the delphi echo's are equally as quiet.



Regards,
Simon Woodland

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Anything ever happen in this echo?

I was wondering that myself ;-)

Regards, Simon Woodland

Once upon a time this was the place to ask newbie pascal
questions... it's been pretty quiet recently.

yeah, not many worthwhile newbie pascal programmers any more ;-(

)\/(ark


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Hello mark!

On 12/08/2002, mark lewis wrote to Jasen Betts:

Anything ever happen in this echo?

I was wondering that myself ;-)

Regards, Simon Woodland

Once upon a time this was the place to ask newbie pascal
questions... it's been pretty quiet recently.

yeah, not many worthwhile newbie pascal programmers any more ;-(

They dont seem to have moved over to the delphi echo's either :-(

Regards,
Simon Woodland

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Do you deal with oop? I found some source
code that I don't really understand
and could use some help in figuring it out.


I could post some of the code. Or maybe
if you want to look at it and do a brief
explaination. I got it from

http://home10.inet.tele.dk/sag/asl.html

It is the aslNNTPClient.pas under the
OOExample part of it.

I never really got into the Decentant
slash parent type of bp programming ie. oop


Well, you said you wantted to help a newbie
type programmer. Thought I would give
you the chance.

big Grin

One,
Chris Hoppman

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Quoting mark lewis to Jasen Betts <=-

I was wondering that myself ;-)

Regards, Simon Woodland

Once upon a time this was the place to ask newbie pascal
questions... it's been pretty quiet recently.

yeah, not many worthwhile newbie pascal programmers any more ;-(

Yeah I remember the day when we had tons of
newbies in the echo.

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Hello,

ml> yeah, not many worthwhile newbie pascal programmers any more ;-(

SA> Yeah I remember the day when we had tons of newbies in the echo.

I might qualify. I did a little Pascal at college, skipped Modula-2 but look at Oberon every now and again. From what I've seen, I like Wirth's work: Pascal seems quite readable and I like 'common-sense' touches like defining procedures before they're called by the main program, enabling a single-pass compiler. I would like to use Pascal to write some open-source software, but I've found that trying to make open-source Pascal compilers work tends to be like banging my head against a wall: painful and unproductive.

- Andy.

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I've found that trying to make open-source Pascal compilers work tends to like banging my head against a wall: painful and unproductive.

Free Pascal and Virtual Pascal are excellent free compilers. Virtual Pascal isn't open sourced, but Free Pascal is.

I've done some serious development with both (FP for Linux and VP for
Windows). I have written several large projects, many approaching 100,000 lines of code. I can seriously recommend both for those platforms, although
I haven't used Free Pascal much on anything other than Linux.

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Hello,

JC> I've done some serious development with both (FP for Linux and
> VP for Windows). I have written several large projects, many
> approaching 100,000 lines of code. I can seriously recommend
> both for those platforms, although I haven't used Free Pascal
> much on anything other than Linux.

I think Free Pascal may have been one of the compilers that was giving me grief. It may be time I tried again though.

- Andy.

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Free Pascal and Virtual Pascal are excellent free compilers. Virtual Pasca isn't open sourced, but Free Pascal is.

Virtual Pascal has alot of it's units open for editting. I just has a few
that are closed, because of the original is a copyright belongs still
to Borland International.

Quote from the site.

"The following standard units are shipped with VP: VpSysLow, System, SysUtils, Use32, Use16, Dos, Crt, Strings, Printers, Objects, Validate, WinDos, WinCrt, TypInfo, Math and Classes. For the SysUtils, Classes, Math and TypInfo units, only the interface sections are included (because the original copyright belongs to Borland International); the other units are all supplied with full source code."

(VP for Windows).

Plus, you said you use it on Windows. I also do, but I found it is mainly gear'd towards os/2. They only list ONE example for a IBM based machine.


Just thought to fill in a couple of gaps.

Chris H.

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Hi Andy.

22-Aug-02 22:19:20, Andy Ball wrote to James Coyle

Hello,

I've done some serious development with both (FP for Linux and

>> VP for Windows). I have written several large projects, many
>> approaching 100,000 lines of code. I can seriously recommend
>> both for those platforms, although I haven't used Free Pascal
>> much on anything other than Linux.

I think Free Pascal may have been one of the compilers that was
giving me grief. It may be time I tried again though

AFAIK FPC is a "Borland" pascal not an ISO or Wirth pascal,
so there may be are subtle differences to what you expect. (you didn't
specify the flavour of toyue college pascal exposusre)

The GNU p2c compiler is an ISO pascal dunno if it's still being developed, it's written in C and needs a C compiler to produce executables.

Bye <=-

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Hi Jasen,

JB> AFAIK FPC is a "Borland" pascal not an ISO or Wirth
> pascal, so there may be are subtle differences to what
> you expect.

Wirth invented the language, so to a certain extent all Pascals ought to be at least partially "Wirth pascal". ;-)

JB> (you didn't specify the flavour of toyue college
> pascal exposusre)

I believe I used Borland Pascal at college, but from the other Pascal books I've looked at it seems more consistant than (for example) BASIC. I wasn't using Borland libraries and have no emotional investment in Borland - I just want something that works for me.

JB> The GNU p2c compiler is an ISO pascal dunno if it's
> still being developed, it's written in C and needs a
> C compiler to produce executables.

I did try p2c (the machines I use mostly have gcc on them), and if I remember rightly it took my Pascal source and produced credible looking C. I forget why
the C it produced would not build.

Now is probably a good time for me to try some Pascal compilers again, making note of the results (or lack thereof) that they produce.

Regards,
- Andy.

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Quoting Andy Ball to Scott Adams <=-

yeah, not many worthwhile newbie pascal programmers any more ;-(

Yeah I remember the day when we had tons of newbies in the echo.

I might qualify. I did a little Pascal at college, skipped Modula-2
but look at Oberon every now and again. From what I've seen, I like Wirth's work: Pascal seems quite readable and I like 'common-sense' touches like defining procedures before they're called by the main program, enabling a single-pass compiler. I would like to use Pascal
to write some open-source software, but I've found that trying to make open-source Pascal compilers work tends to be like banging my head
against a wall: painful and unproductive.

Yeah. I've done pascal since the early '80s though technically
my first language was basic as it was for everyone then. Since
then I've tried to learn more and up to about 26 langauges
through college and work. But I still come back to pascal
for home coding since its the easiest and less stressful than
say C which I may do at work all day. As to open sourcing
yes, its alot of material to deal with and can get bogged
down in things.





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