Quoting Chris Hoppman to All <=-

Would anyone might have an idea about the *.msg record format.
I downloaded the swag examples, but hey differ and the programs
I am using to toss them into the bbs and scan them out likes
what swags has to say, but the program I use to toss in the messages
likes different records for tossing in and scaning out the the *.msg
(It will toss in with the swag examples, but likes for me to add one
extra byte (char) onto two record fields when scaning out the *.msg)
I thought it should be the same for both. At least that what it
has for swag.

Yeah for awhile I've been trying to get the right
Jam structures out ther eto do some quite proggie.
But unfournately theres alot of 3rd party stuff
out there to find the right format is difficult.



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Yeah for awhile I've been trying to get the right
Jam structures out ther eto do some quite proggie.
But unfournately theres alot of 3rd party stuff
out there to find the right format is difficult.

actually, its not the datafile structures that are the problem(s)... it is the methods of accessing those datafiles and what stuff has to be done in what order and such...

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Quoting mark lewis to Scott Adams <=-

Yeah for awhile I've been trying to get the right
Jam structures out ther eto do some quite proggie.
But unfournately theres alot of 3rd party stuff
out there to find the right format is difficult.

actually, its not the datafile structures that are the problem(s)...
it is the methods of accessing those datafiles and what stuff has to
be done in what order and such...

Well i can do the access stuff easy if i can just get
the data file structures :) But those that I do
have around here all have a bit of conflicting methods
and structures slightly.


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Yeah for awhile I've been trying to get the right
Jam structures out ther eto do some quite proggie.
But unfournately theres alot of 3rd party stuff
out there to find the right format is difficult.

actually, its not the datafile structures that are the problem(s)...
it is the methods of accessing those datafiles and what stuff has to
be done in what order and such...

Well i can do the access stuff easy if i can just get
the data file structures :)

i dunno... i guess it depends on what one is doing... an example is editing a message... if you edit an existing message, a new header record is created that
points to the message body and the old header record is marked deleted... when packing the base, the nondeleted headers are copied to the new file and the message bodies that match are copied to a new body file... pointers are adjusted as necessary...

much easier to acquire the MKSRCMSG package... its got all this stuff figured out and available already... there's even a sample program or two... one of them "converts" message bases between those available... BTW: those are *.MSG (SDM), HMB, SQU, JAM, and old(er) EZYcomm...

But those that I do
have around here all have a bit of conflicting methods
and structures slightly.

wierd... where'd you get them from?

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Quoting mark lewis to Scott Adams <=-

Yeah for awhile I've been trying to get the right
Jam structures out ther eto do some quite proggie.
But unfournately theres alot of 3rd party stuff
out there to find the right format is difficult.

actually, its not the datafile structures that are the problem(s)...
it is the methods of accessing those datafiles and what stuff has to
be done in what order and such...

Well i can do the access stuff easy if i can just get
the data file structures :)

i dunno... i guess it depends on what one is doing... an example is editing a message... if you edit an existing message, a new header
record is created that points to the message body and the old header record is marked deleted... when packing the base, the nondeleted
headers are copied to the new file and the message bodies that match
are copied to a new body file... pointers are adjusted as necessary... much easier to acquire the MKSRCMSG package... its got all this stuff figured out and available already... there's even a sample program or two... one of them "converts" message bases between those available... BTW: those are *.MSG (SDM), HMB, SQU, JAM, and old(er) EZYcomm...

Well what I'm wanting is rather simple compared to the
file edits really. HMB? Never heard of that..oh wait..
I seem to recall vaguely..where was it..man that
must be a decade or more ago..where was it...hmmm..
can't recall...

But those that I do
have around here all have a bit of conflicting methods
and structures slightly.

wierd... where'd you get them from?

Actually just my collection of code 'stuff' over the
years. Plus the TG sources have it but for some
reason its not well...structured :)


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Hello Scott,

Monday 17 March 2003 04:54, Scott Adams wrote to mark lewis:

file edits really. HMB? Never heard of that..oh wait..

If I surmise correctly:

HMB = Hudson Message Base


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file edits really. HMB? Never heard of that..oh wait..

If I surmise correctly:

HMB = Hudson Message Base

you do surmise correctly...

in its day, the HMB was a huge breakthru in BBS message storage formats...

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Hi Scott.

17-Mar-03 04:54:17, Scott Adams wrote to mark lewis

already... there's even a sample program or two... one of them
"converts" message bases between those available... BTW: those
are *.MSG (SDM), HMB, SQU, JAM, and old(er) EZYcomm...

Well what I'm wanting is rather simple compared to the file edits
really. HMB? Never heard of that..oh wait.. I seem to recall vaguely..where was it..man that must be a decade or more
ago..where was it...hmmm.. can't recall...

Hudson?, remote access uses it.

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Quoting Eddy Thilleman to Scott Adams <=-

file edits really. HMB? Never heard of that..oh wait..

If I surmise correctly:

HMB = Hudson Message Base

After I posted that I realized what it meant.
for some reason didn't place the B at the end
with the format initially.



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Quoting Jasen Betts to Scott Adams <=-

already... there's even a sample program or two... one of them
"converts" message bases between those available... BTW: those
are *.MSG (SDM), HMB, SQU, JAM, and old(er) EZYcomm...

Well what I'm wanting is rather simple compared to the file edits
really. HMB? Never heard of that..oh wait.. I seem to recall vaguely..where was it..man that must be a decade or more
ago..where was it...hmmm.. can't recall...

Hudson?, remote access uses it.

Yep. I was on a brain overload I suppose.


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