Mon 2003-06-16 05:51, Marty Kazmaier (1:138/389) wrote to All:

I used a version of Pascal about 15 years ago in high school. It
was pretty easy, but I'm a lot older and denser now. I'd like to
re-learn Pascal with a method of other than attempting to figure
out non-lesson oriented source code. Can anyone suggest a book,
and/or a free compiler with lessons? Even a text book would be
awesome.

Try the "Subjects > Computers & Internet > Programming > Languages & Tools > Pascal" category at amazon.com. They list some cheap used books there.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/browse/-/3984/ref=br_dp__4/104-6295686-678
0760

You might also want to check your local library(s).

Turbo Pascal 1.0, 3.02 & 5.5 are freely downloadable from Borland's web site, http://community.borland.com/museum/ .

Free Pascal 1.0.6 is language-compatible with Turbo Pascal (and some of Delphi)
and is available for 32-bit DOS, Linux, OS/2, Win32, FreeBSD, Solaris, BeOS, QNX and AmigaOS from http://www.freepascal.org/ .

You can probably find a copy of Borland Pascal 7.0 floating around on the web. Google for "bp7.zip".

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Quoting Marty Kazmaier to All <=-

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I used a version of Pascal about 15 years ago in high school.
It was pretty easy, but I'm a lot older and denser now. I'd like to re-learn Pascal with a method of other than attempting to figure out non-lesson oriented source code. Can anyone suggest a book, and/or a
free compiler with lessons? Even a text book would be awesome.
I'm looking to get familiar with this language once again so I
can tackle EleXER (a pascal based language for EleBBS modules) and the EleBBS source code. I used to be quite bright, but now with a much
more limited attention span, it's a bit more difficult. I've looked
at a little undocumented (and even documented) source and it was completely undecipherable at my currently diminished skill level. I'm
at a state where I don't even understand file structures,
unfortunately.
I have used a little perl, but I have to constantly refer to
the book and fix tons of coding errors. I don't mind that, I learn
and hopefully remember. I'd like something similar to the Perl in a Nutshell book for Pascal. Preferably TP7 (which I did own a while
back, but was completely confused) or any pascal compiler that's free
if there is such a thing.
To finish, a lesson based book for beginners (even (or maybe
especially) a text book or two; if more than one, I'd like them to complement eachother) and a clue on how to get a free (or reasonably priced, I'm pretty low income) pascal compiler are my main needs. I'm
not positive what I'll do, so I really can't help pinpoint my needs,
but I will be doing some CGI along with EleXER and once I'm brave
enough and competent again, I may delve into the EleBBS source.

Ok. First it depends on several questions to be answered.
Would this be for fun/hobby or some future potentional
job oriented thing?

Which language? BP7/Tp7 or Delphi/windows?

If hobby it'd be best with bp7 if job then delphi is the
only real language in the industry used pascal wise.

There are several good free pascal compilers out there.
I have 2-3 links on my web page with examples and important
SWAG archives which is tons and tons of useful code.
See below for the URL.

Now years ago when I did pascal lessons on my network
AdventureNet International that is on boards all over
the globe I did pascal lessons in about 14 lessons (guessing
here since its been years). I think its th eifle pasless.arj
on my bbs now and heck it MIGHT be on my programming page
on teh website as well (forget). At any rate its simple
lessons that teach the basics up the advanced stuff if your
interested.

As to books I'd suggest Teach yourself in 21 days books.
That series of books has just about every language covered.
I used them for Java about 2 years ago when I sat and learned
it at work. Most good stores have those and if you have a local
comunity college go to their bookstore they have educational
rates for compilers and books. For example I got delphi3 back
then for around 99$ when its about 300$ elsewhere. The only
problem is they don't give support through tech support.

So answer the above stuff and we can go from there :)

Besides this echo is for lessons so if you have questions
just holler!

http://users.cybermax.net/~longshot

my website









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You can probably find a copy of Borland Pascal 7.0 floating around on the w Google for "bp7.zip".

;) Thanks for the info.

Now, borland will handle external .dll calls?

chris

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Chris Hoppman wrote to Andrew Clarke <=-

You can probably find a copy of Borland Pascal 7.0 floating around

on the w

Google for "bp7.zip".

;) Thanks for the info.

Now, borland will handle external .dll calls?

Ummm, Pascal for WINDOWS might. But BP7 itself? Nope. DLL's were not common then. Plus, DLLs have NEVER been used in DOS programs, and bp7 is a DOS compiler. You want Delphi for true win32 DLL support.



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Quoting Dan Egli to Chris Hoppman <=-

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Chris Hoppman wrote to Andrew Clarke <=-

You can probably find a copy of Borland Pascal 7.0 floating around

on the w

Google for "bp7.zip".

;) Thanks for the info.

Now, borland will handle external .dll calls?

Ummm, Pascal for WINDOWS might. But BP7 itself? Nope. DLL's were not common then. Plus, DLLs have NEVER been used in DOS programs, and bp7
is a DOS compiler. You want Delphi for true win32 DLL support.

Actually it can compile to 3 Dos, Protected mode and
windows target. I frankly never thought about it but
I GUESS programs written could be used in Win9X I'd see
why not but back then win3.1 was the main version.


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Now, borland will handle external .dll calls?

Ummm, Pascal for WINDOWS might. But BP7 itself? Nope. DLL's were not common then. Plus, DLLs have NEVER been used in DOS programs, and bp7 is a DOS compiler. You want Delphi for true win32 DLL support.

Yep, tpw dos handle dll calls. I mostly wantted this, because I wantted to make socket calls to sock32.dll and have it coded into a 16 bit door.
After asking I searched for a answer and found out it can handle 16 bit dll calls, but not 32 bit dll calls. Shrug. I didn't want to use Delphi or tpw, because it doesn't all for calls to regs.

;)
Chris

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because it doesn't all for calls to regs.

^^^
Should be 'handle'.

Chris

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