• Re: What VP will Kamala pick?

    From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Mike Miller on Tuesday, July 30, 2024 15:44:56
    You are trying to bend a statistic or fact to fit your narrative rather than adjust your narrative to fit the full slate of available data.

    You say this, but...

    There's nothing for me to understand because this is a conversation about EVs catching fire at an unprecedented rate since Pete began his DEI gig.

    Yep, And there are also an unprecedented number of EVs on the road.

    then you say this, which means that I'm right.

    Statistically speaking, 0 people died as a result of an electric automobile catching fire during a 15 minute interview. The interview
    could have gone on for a week or more straight and it's still quite
    likely 0 people whould have died from an EV fire.

    I usually don't speak statistically, but I speak American. And American speaking, the Biden/Harris administration has the worst transportation related statistics in history, but Pete still has time to joke around on TV.

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  • From Mike Miller@1:154/30.1 to Aaron Thomas on Tuesday, July 30, 2024 18:47:29

    Statistically speaking, 0 people died as a result of an electric
    automobile catching fire during a 15 minute interview. The interview
    could have gone on for a week or more straight and it's still quite
    likely 0 people whould have died from an EV fire.

    I usually don't speak statistically, but I speak American. And American speaking, the Biden/Harris administration has the worst transportation related statistics in history, but Pete still has time to joke around on TV.


    That's simply not true. Highway fatalities have been slightly higher since covid ended and people started traveling again, but it's nowhere near the raw numbers from the 70s and 80s, and WAY less in the per capita and per billion miles traveled figures.

    Are you picking out other numbers? Passenger train deaths are up a bit, but accidents are down overall.

    2023 had no fatal accidents in commercial airlines out of 32 million flights.

    So I'm not sure where you are picking your numbers from. It sounds to me like you're just making stuff up and hoping the rest of your cult buddies believe you.


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  • From Ken Nischan@1:275/89 to Mike Miller on Tuesday, July 30, 2024 23:36:58
    Re: Re: What VP will Kamala pick?
    By: Mike Miller to Aaron Thomas on Tue Jul 30 2024 06:47 pm

    So I'm not sure where you are picking your numbers from. It sounds to me lik

    I've noticed that the right tends to just say whatever fits their narrative, facts be damned. Their base doesn't give a damn about facts, facts come from data. Data is science. Science is the enemy of Jesus so we don't listen to that crap! ;)

    Considering how much totally easily debunkable BS Trump spouts, it's no surprise his base follows suit.
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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Aaron Thomas on Wednesday, July 31, 2024 06:22:44
    Aaron Thomas -> Björn Felten skrev 2024-07-30 17:07:
    We must appreciate the word "discretionary" because I've been all over
    the east coast this summer and I didn't run into any construction projects.

    That must be totally unique. I've never heard of any other person who never experiences any roadwork when being "all over" somewhere an entire summer.

    According to this official traffic information site:

    https://511ny.org/

    ... there are around one thousand construction sites on the roads in NY state alone and several more thousands "all over the East Coast". If you didn't see a single one, you should take off your orange blinders.


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  • From Mike Miller@1:154/30 to Ken Nischan on Wednesday, July 31, 2024 07:12:17

    Hello Ken!

    30 Jul 24 23:36, you wrote to me:

    Re: Re: What VP will Kamala pick?
    By: Mike Miller to Aaron Thomas on Tue Jul 30 2024 06:47 pm

    So I'm not sure where you are picking your numbers from. It sounds
    to me lik

    I've noticed that the right tends to just say whatever fits their narrative, facts be damned. Their base doesn't give a damn about
    facts, facts come from data. Data is science. Science is the enemy
    of Jesus so we don't listen to that crap! ;)

    Considering how much totally easily debunkable BS Trump spouts, it's
    no surprise his base follows suit.


    I think Stephen Colbert coined the word "Truthiness" back around 2005.

    Webster's dictionary now defines it as:

    truth * i * ness
    : a truthful or seemingly truthful quality that is claimed for something not because of supporting facts or evidence but because of a feeling that it is true or a desire for it to be true

    Mike


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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Ken Nischan on Wednesday, July 31, 2024 21:16:14
    Hello Ken,

    I've noticed that the right tends to just say whatever fits their narrative,
    facts be damned. Their base doesn't give a damn about facts, facts come from data. Data is science. Science is the enemy of Jesus so we don't listen to that crap! ;)

    You right! Alternate facts is the answer to everything!

    Considering how much totally easily debunkable BS Trump spouts, it's no surprise his base follows suit.

    Kellyanne explained it all so very well. Alternate facts is reality.

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Mike Miller@1:154/30 to Lee Lofaso on Wednesday, July 31, 2024 14:27:56

    Hello Lee!

    31 Jul 24 21:16, you wrote to Ken Nischan:


    Considering how much totally easily debunkable BS Trump spouts,
    it's no surprise his base follows suit.

    Kellyanne explained it all so very well. Alternate facts is reality.

    It's funny, she started to say the quiet things out loud, and suddenly she wasn't allowed to talk to the media anymore...


    Mike


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Mike Miller on Wednesday, July 31, 2024 13:22:24
    I usually don't speak statistically, but I speak American. And Americ speaking, the Biden/Harris administration has the worst transportatio related statistics in history, but Pete still has time to joke around TV.

    That's simply not true. Highway fatalities have been slightly higher since covid ended and people started traveling again, but it's nowhere near the raw numbers from the 70s and 80s, and WAY less in the per
    capita and per billion miles traveled figures.

    You're doing the same thing that MAYBE I did; you're cherry-picking your transportation statistics. There were no commerical air fatalities? That's great, and I'm glad. But what's with the unprecedented private plane crashes?

    I'm not blaming Pete for automobile crashes. Those are out of his control. But as for trains, sea vessels, and private planes, we're being slaughtered and Pete's not doing jack about it.

    Are you picking out other numbers? Passenger train deaths are up a bit, but accidents are down overall.

    Have you not heard about all the derailments? There was one in Ohio that just so happens to have been carrying hazardous materials. Then another one in Arizona that just so happens to have been carrying hazardous materials.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Björn Felten on Wednesday, July 31, 2024 13:41:30
    That must be totally unique. I've never heard of any other person who never experiences any roadwork when being "all over" somewhere an entire summer.

    According to this official traffic information site:

    https://511ny.org/

    This shows that there's a pole down in one town, right shoulder closed in another town, an accident with property damage in another town, but no mention of any road construction.

    The highways are in pretty good shape around NY state. You're product just isn't selling.

    ... there are around one thousand construction sites on the roads in
    NY state alone and several more thousands "all over the East Coast". If you didn't see a single one, you should take off your orange blinders.

    Roadwork involves regular maintenance. Paving is not something that we pat our Transportation Secretary on the back for; if anything, we thank our taxpayers for it.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Mike Miller on Wednesday, July 31, 2024 14:09:22
    Considering how much totally easily debunkable BS Trump spouts, it's no surprise his base follows suit.


    I think Stephen Colbert coined the word "Truthiness" back around 2005.

    It's funny how you guys are having a discussion about "truthiness" and how your go-to reference is Stephen Colbert. The brainwashing campaign really is a success.

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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Aaron Thomas on Thursday, August 01, 2024 00:29:31
    Aaron Thomas -> Björn Felten skrev 2024-07-31 21:41:
    Roadwork involves regular maintenance. Paving is not something that we
    pat our Transportation Secretary on the back for; if anything, we thank our taxpayers for it.

    Didn't you bother to check the site out properly? It has a check box for just showing "Construction". Surely you know the difference between construction work and regular maintenance, even in your IRL-alienated bubble?

    "Our taxpayers" obviously does not include yourself?

    Hint: denial is not a river in Africa.


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  • From Mike Miller@1:154/30 to Aaron Thomas on Wednesday, July 31, 2024 18:52:29

    Hello Aaron!

    31 Jul 24 13:22, you wrote to me:

    I usually don't speak statistically, but I speak American.
    And Americ
    speaking, the Biden/Harris administration has the worst
    transportatio
    related statistics in history, but Pete still has time to
    joke around
    TV.

    That's simply not true. Highway fatalities have been slightly
    higher since covid ended and people started traveling again, but
    it's nowhere near the raw numbers from the 70s and 80s, and WAY
    less in the per capita and per billion miles traveled figures.

    You're doing the same thing that MAYBE I did; you're cherry-picking
    your transportation statistics. There were no commerical air
    fatalities? That's great, and I'm glad. But what's with the
    unprecedented private plane crashes?

    I'm not blaming Pete for automobile crashes. Those are out of his
    control. But as for trains, sea vessels, and private planes, we're
    being slaughtered and Pete's not doing jack about it.

    Are you picking out other numbers? Passenger train deaths are up
    a bit, but accidents are down overall.

    Have you not heard about all the derailments? There was one in Ohio
    that just so happens to have been carrying hazardous materials. Then another one in Arizona that just so happens to have been carrying hazardous materials.

    I have. It's still not as common as it has been in the past.

    Your claim was that these numbers are "the worst in history"

    That is not true. You are lying.


    Stop it.


    Mike


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  • From Mike Miller@1:154/30 to Aaron Thomas on Wednesday, July 31, 2024 18:54:30

    Hello Aaron!

    31 Jul 24 14:09, you wrote to me:

    Considering how much totally easily debunkable BS Trump
    spouts, it's
    no surprise his base follows suit.


    I think Stephen Colbert coined the word "Truthiness" back around
    2005.

    It's funny how you guys are having a discussion about "truthiness" and
    how your go-to reference is Stephen Colbert. The brainwashing campaign really is a success.

    He literally coined the word, on "The Colbert Report". A show where he played a satirical version of a fox news pundit.


    Your statements fit the "Truthiness" definition to a T. You say things that "feel" true, but when things are investigated, it shows they're not true at all.



    Mike


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Björn Felten on Wednesday, July 31, 2024 17:46:44
    Roadwork involves regular maintenance. Paving is not something that w pat our Transportation Secretary on the back for; if anything, we tha our taxpayers for it.

    Didn't you bother to check the site out properly? It has a check box for just showing "Construction". Surely you know the difference between construction work and regular maintenance, even in your IRL-alienated bubble?

    Ok, I did what you said, and now I see some construction sites, but how do we attribute them to Pete Buttigieg? The New York State Department of Transportation is who repairs state highways, and city/town governments fix local roads.

    Nothing would be fixed if it weren't for Pete?

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Mike Miller on Wednesday, July 31, 2024 19:50:12
    Have you not heard about all the derailments? There was one in Ohio that just so happens to have been carrying hazardous materials. Then another one in Arizona that just so happens to have been carrying hazardous materials.

    I have. It's still not as common as it has been in the past.

    Your claim was that these numbers are "the worst in history"

    The frequency of the media reports is definitely unprecedented. Whether or not the media is telling the truth is uncertain, but I'm not sure why your people would lie about it.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Mike Miller on Wednesday, July 31, 2024 19:51:08
    He literally coined the word, on "The Colbert Report". A show where he played a satirical version of a fox news pundit.


    Your statements fit the "Truthiness" definition to a T. You say things that "feel" true, but when things are investigated, it shows they're not true at all.

    Neither one of us has documentation that proves anything one way or the other.

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  • From Mike Miller@1:154/30.1 to Aaron Thomas on Wednesday, July 31, 2024 22:09:41

    He literally coined the word, on "The Colbert Report". A show where he
    played a satirical version of a fox news pundit.


    Your statements fit the "Truthiness" definition to a T. You say things
    that "feel" true, but when things are investigated, it shows they're not
    true at all.

    Neither one of us has documentation that proves anything one way or the other.


    We'll, you see, there are organizations that track these things, so yes there is documentation, and it backs up what I'm telling you.
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  • From Mike Miller@1:154/30.1 to Aaron Thomas on Wednesday, July 31, 2024 22:13:12

    Have you not heard about all the derailments? There was one in Ohio
    that just so happens to have been carrying hazardous materials. Then
    another one in Arizona that just so happens to have been carrying
    hazardous materials.

    I have. It's still not as common as it has been in the past.

    Your claim was that these numbers are "the worst in history"

    The frequency of the media reports is definitely unprecedented. Whether or not the media is telling the truth is uncertain, but I'm not sure why your people would lie about it.

    News is big business. The 24 hour news channels feed on shock and outrage. Stories like this can easily be sensationalized to get eyeballs glued to screens that advertisers pay huge sums for access to.

    Do what I do.

    Don't watch news on TV.

    You'll be much happier.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Mike Miller on Thursday, August 01, 2024 05:12:50
    Do what I do.

    Don't watch news on TV.

    I'm with you on that.

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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Aaron Thomas on Thursday, August 01, 2024 14:53:17
    Aaron Thomas -> Björn Felten skrev 2024-08-01 01:46:
    Ok, I did what you said, and now I see some construction sites, but how
    do we attribute them to Pete Buttigieg? The New York State Department of Transportation is who repairs state highways, and city/town governments fix local roads.

    Haven't you seen it on Fox News? The big DoT-truck filled with money, that Pete uses as he travels to every construction site in every state, handing out money to all the workers?


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Björn Felten on Thursday, August 01, 2024 09:07:20
    Ok, I did what you said, and now I see some construction sites, but h do we attribute them to Pete Buttigieg? The New York State Department Transportation is who repairs state highways, and city/town governmen fix local roads.

    Haven't you seen it on Fox News? The big DoT-truck filled with money, that Pete uses as he travels to every construction site in every state, handing out money to all the workers?

    I like joking around, but I was being serious. Is there any way we can thank Pete for doing anything out of the ordinary to make roads safer?

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