• Biden Harris Policies @ Work

    From IB Joe@1:342/201 to All on Wednesday, July 31, 2024 08:24:28
    The proxy war that Biden Harris is waging against Israel seems to be working for them.

    I think we'll be in a world war before election day. They'll try to call off the election because of the world war to preserve democracy.

    I miss the way he said CHI-NA... the world was peaceful...

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to IB Joe on Wednesday, July 31, 2024 14:14:14
    The proxy war that Biden Harris is waging against Israel seems to be working for them.

    Biden-Harris gave Hamas access to the money they needed to start Holocaust Part 2, and now Israel has launched a rocket into Lebanon. It's getting really hairy.

    You don't suppose that Russia, Israel, and Lebanon are going to forgive us for all this, do you?

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Aaron Thomas on Wednesday, July 31, 2024 16:58:50
    The proxy war that Biden Harris is waging against Israel seems to be
    working for them.

    Biden-Harris gave Hamas access to the money they needed to start Holocaust Part 2, and now Israel has launched a rocket into Lebanon.

    Isreal has a war machine of it's own. You might have noticed that.

    It's getting really hairy.

    It's been hairy (to say the least) for years (decades) on end.

    You don't suppose that Russia, Israel, and Lebanon are going to forgive us for all this, do you?

    America is not involved in any wars currently. What does America need forgiveness for?

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Alan Ianson on Wednesday, July 31, 2024 20:01:30
    You don't suppose that Russia, Israel, and Lebanon are going to forgive for all this, do you?

    America is not involved in any wars currently. What does America need forgiveness for?

    Russia:
    After waiting for Russia to kill Ukrainian civilians, Biden sanctioned Russia. Then, he went on to provide Ukraine with billions of dollars to kill Russians. Will Russia forgive us for that? Or will they strike us when we least expect it?

    Israel and Lebanon:
    After USA President Jimmy Carter froze $11 billion in Iranian assets, Biden decided to unfreeze $6 billion of it, which was presumably used to fund Holocaust Part 2 aka the October 7 massacre. Israel didn't enjoy the massacre, and Lebanon didn't enjoy having Israeli rockets being launched into their country a few days ago. Will Israel forgive us for that? Will Lebanon forgive us for that? I hope so, but probably not. So now we're walking on eggshells thanks to Biden and his world-ending maneuvers.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Aaron Thomas on Thursday, August 01, 2024 05:57:34
    Russia:
    After waiting for Russia to kill Ukrainian civilians, Biden sanctioned Russia.

    Nobody was waiting for Russia to kill anyone.

    Even MAGA must know that?

    Then, he went on to provide Ukraine with billions of dollars to kill Russians.

    You've got that backwards. Russia has spent billions to kill Urainians in an invasion. Who knows how many they have killed?

    Will Russia forgive us for that? Or will they strike us when we least expect it?

    Russia has been an adversary for decades. This hasn't changed.

    Israel and Lebanon:
    After USA President Jimmy Carter froze $11 billion in Iranian assets, Biden decided to unfreeze $6 billion of it, which was presumably used to fund Holocaust Part 2 aka the October 7 massacre.

    This was done for humanitarian reasons.

    Israel didn't enjoy the massacre, and Lebanon didn't enjoy having Israeli rockets being launched into their country a few days ago. Will Israel forgive us for that? Will Lebanon forgive us for that? I hope so, but probably not.

    You (the USA) never played any part in any of that.

    So now we're walking on eggshells thanks to Biden and his world-ending maneuvers.

    These issues in the middle east have been brewing for decades. A real solution needs to be reached or these problems will continue.

    Biden and his policies are not the issue.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Aaron Thomas on Thursday, August 01, 2024 08:31:46
    On 31 Jul 2024, Aaron Thomas said the following...


    Biden-Harris gave Hamas access to the money they needed to start
    Holocaust Part 2, and now Israel has launched a rocket into Lebanon.
    It's getting really hairy.

    You don't suppose that Russia, Israel, and Lebanon are going to forgive
    us for all this, do you?


    They will once Trump is in office... This is a great example of what to expect if Harris gets into office.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Alan Ianson on Thursday, August 01, 2024 09:20:06
    After waiting for Russia to kill Ukrainian civilians, Biden sanctioned Russia.

    Nobody was waiting for Russia to kill anyone.

    Even MAGA must know that?

    No, we donm't know that. What was he waiting for then? Did Biden think that Putin's troops surrounding the Ukraine border was just a drill? He did nothing, and I mean nothing, about it. Nothing that the media or the WH shared with us anyway.

    Then, he went on to provide Ukraine with billions of dollars to kill Russians.

    You've got that backwards. Russia has spent billions to kill Urainians
    in an invasion. Who knows how many they have killed?

    According to the media, and they seem right about this, the billions of dollars that we're giving to Ukraine is to aid them in their war against Russia. Do you think we're just giving it to them so that Zelensky can get rid of his mother in law?

    Will Russia forgive us for that? Or will they strike us when we least ex it?

    Russia has been an adversary for decades. This hasn't changed.

    President George HW Bush effectively ended a cold war between the USA & Russia in 1991 through diplomacy. But now Biden and Harris have ripped off the scab by giving billions of dollars to their enemy (Ukraine) while Ukraine is at war with Russia.

    After USA President Jimmy Carter froze $11 billion in Iranian assets, Bi decided to unfreeze $6 billion of it, which was presumably used to fund Holocaust Part 2 aka the October 7 massacre.

    This was done for humanitarian reasons.

    The things that Hamas did with that money is the opposite of humanitarian.

    Israel didn't enjoy the massacre, and Lebanon didn't enjoy having Israel rockets being launched into their country a few days ago. Will Israel fo us for that? Will Lebanon forgive us for that? I hope so, but probably n

    You (the USA) never played any part in any of that.

    Biden and Harris caused all this, but it's ultimately the fault of the voters who didn't vote for Trump in 2020. The leaders of those other countries know this. They know that we have some kind of democracy here, and they know who to blame.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Aaron Thomas on Thursday, August 01, 2024 11:38:02
    No, we donm't know that. What was he waiting for then?

    He wasn't waiting for anything.

    Did Biden think that Putin's troops surrounding the Ukraine border was just
    a drill?

    No. Russia assured us that it was just excercises but Biden himself said he was going to so something, although no one but the Russians knew what.

    He did nothing and I mean nothing, about it. Nothing that the media or the
    WH shared with us anyway.

    What do you think he should do or should have done?

    You've got that backwards. Russia has spent billions to kill Urainians
    in an invasion. Who knows how many they have killed?

    According to the media, and they seem right about this, the billions of dollars that we're giving to Ukraine is to aid them in their war against Russia.

    Ukraine is not in a war against Russia. They are defending themselves from the attacks against them since the invasion.

    Most of those billions of dollars have gone to American companies to supply Ukraine with the equipment they need to defend themselves.

    Many countries have come to Ukraine's aid.

    Do you think we're just giving it to them so that Zelensky can get
    rid of his mother in law?

    What!?

    Russia has been an adversary for decades. This hasn't changed.

    President George HW Bush effectively ended a cold war between the USA & Russia >in 1991 through diplomacy. But now Biden and Harris have ripped off the scab b
    giving billions of dollars to their enemy (Ukraine) while Ukraine is at war with Russia.

    Russia has been an advesary for decades. This hasn't changed.

    This was done for humanitarian reasons.

    The things that Hamas did with that money is the opposite of humanitarian.

    What hamas did was not humanitarian at all. No one knows how the attack on Israel was funded. The release of funds to Iran was on humanitarian grounds.

    Those are facts.

    You (the USA) never played any part in any of that.

    Biden and Harris caused all this, but it's ultimately the fault of the voters who didn't vote for Trump in 2020. The leaders of those other countries know this. They know that we have some kind of democracy here, and they know who to blame.

    Biden Harris caused none of this.

    I know you don't like Biden but there is no need to lie.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Alan Ianson on Thursday, August 01, 2024 15:39:34
    Did Biden think that Putin's troops surrounding the Ukraine border was j a drill?

    No. Russia assured us that it was just excercises but Biden himself said he was going to so something, although no one but the Russians knew what.

    What do you mean? Biden said he was going to do something about it? But he didn't do anything until well after the assault began. I didn't see any response from Biden until way after Ukrainian civilians were forced to fight to the death with Russian soldiers.

    What do you think he should do or should have done?

    He should have began diplomacy as soon as the troop build-up began, by communicating with Putin. And if that were to fail, then he should have began the sanctions immediately instead of waiting for the slaughter to commence.
    (This is my opinion.)

    Russia has been an advesary for decades. This hasn't changed.

    But that's no reason to escalate things.

    What hamas did was not humanitarian at all. No one knows how the attack
    on Israel was funded. The release of funds to Iran was on humanitarian grounds.

    The problem with that story is that the humanitarian aid is nowhere to be found, and that the Iran-backed terror group known as Hamas carried out the attack on Israelis months after the funds were unfrozen.

    Those are facts.

    It might be a "fact" that the money was unfrozen under the guise of being for humanitarian aid, but another fact that stands out is that it's Iran's money, and they can do whatever they want with it, and they're not going to spend their own money under Joe Biden's dictation. Another fact is that the attack on Israel occurred shortly after the money was unfrozen. There's no proof that Iran sponsored the attack, but it's careless to assume that they didn't.

    Biden Harris caused none of this.

    I know you don't like Biden but there is no need to lie.

    I gave you some facts and some opinions, but I'm not a liar.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Aaron Thomas on Thursday, August 01, 2024 16:16:32
    No. Russia assured us that it was just excercises but Biden himself said
    he was going to so something, although no one but the Russians knew what.

    What do you mean?

    Read it again, it's pretty simple.

    Biden said he was going to do something about it? But he didn't do anything until well after the assault began. I didn't see any response from Biden until way after Ukrainian civilians were forced to fight to the death with Russian soldiers.

    Biden has nothing to do with the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

    What do you think he should do or should have done?

    He should have began diplomacy as soon as the troop build-up began, by communicating with Putin. And if that were to fail, then he should have began the sanctions immediately instead of waiting for the slaughter to commence. (This is my opinion.)

    The USA has unending diplomacy with Russia and many other contries.

    I see the Biden administration had a big win earlier today.

    Russia has been an advesary for decades. This hasn't changed.

    But that's no reason to escalate things.

    Biden didn't escalate, Russia did.

    What hamas did was not humanitarian at all. No one knows how the attack
    on Israel was funded. The release of funds to Iran was on humanitarian
    grounds.

    The problem with that story is that the humanitarian aid is nowhere to be found, and that the Iran-backed terror group known as Hamas carried out the attack on Israelis months after the funds were unfrozen.

    The money was released for humanitarian reasons, we know this.

    Those are facts.

    It might be a "fact" that the money was unfrozen under the guise of being for humanitarian aid, but another fact that stands out is that it's Iran's money, and they can do whatever they want with it, and they're not going to spend
    their own money under Joe Biden's dictation. Another fact is that the attack o
    Israel occurred shortly after the money was unfrozen. There's no proof that Iran sponsored the attack, but it's careless to assume that they didn't.

    The money was released for stictly humanitarian purposes.

    This is a fact, we know this.

    Biden Harris caused none of this.

    I know you don't like Biden but there is no need to lie.

    I gave you some facts and some opinions, but I'm not a liar.

    You said "Biden Harris" caused this. That is a lie.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Alan Ianson on Thursday, August 01, 2024 18:40:46
    No. Russia assured us that it was just excercises but Biden himself sai >> he was going to so something, although no one but the Russians knew wha

    What do you mean?

    It wasn't hard to figure it out, before it ever happened. When Democrats are in control of the white house, Ukraine gets invaded by Russia. It happened in 2014, and it happened again in 2021. And it was no surprise to anybody.

    Biden has nothing to do with the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

    Ukraine is an asset to the USA. Biden let our asset get attacked.

    Imagine if Putin amassed a fleet of warships along the California coast, and Biden just did nothing about it for months and months.. This is the same thing. I don't know how stuff is in Canada, but in the USA the president serves as the top commander of the military.

    The USA has unending diplomacy with Russia and many other contries.

    I see the Biden administration had a big win earlier today.

    Trading civilians for terrorists is NOT diplomacy; it's weakness. The world is less safe after what transpired today. Vadim Krasikov is a convicted assassin. Biden/Harris traded a convicted assassin for a NY Times reporter.

    Take a few moments for this to all sink in.

    Russia has been an advesary for decades. This hasn't changed.

    But that's no reason to escalate things.

    Biden didn't escalate, Russia did.

    Putin escalated things, and instead of Biden/Harris using diplomacy, they escalated things even further.

    The problem with that story is that the humanitarian aid is nowhere to b found, and that the Iran-backed terror group known as Hamas carried out attack on Israelis months after the funds were unfrozen.

    The money was released for humanitarian reasons, we know this.

    Where did those sweet, innocent Iranians spend $6 billion dollars worth of humanitarian aid?

    I gave you some facts and some opinions, but I'm not a liar.

    You said "Biden Harris" caused this. That is a lie.

    That's your hypothesis. You and I come from different schools.

    I like the TV. The TV is fun. I watch re-runs of my favorite TV show every night. And when there's a new burger deal at McDonald's, the TV lets me know
    about it, and the TV also tells me the truth about the weather. Therefore, it would take some nerve for me to call that sweet little machine a liar. But it IS a liar. Once the weather forecast is done, and after the McDonald's ad is done, it's just a big, expensive POS that tells all kinds of lies.

    Once in a while, we've got to tell the TV "Hey pal, I've had enough of your lies."

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Aaron Thomas on Thursday, August 01, 2024 21:53:02
    It wasn't hard to figure it out, before it ever happened. When Democrats are in control of the white house, Ukraine gets invaded by Russia. It happened in 2014, and it happened again in 2021. And it was no surprise to anybody.

    It's true it wasn't a surprise.

    America was attacked on American soil by terrorists, under Bush if I recall.

    Biden has nothing to do with the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

    Ukraine is an asset to the USA. Biden let our asset get attacked.

    Ukraine is an ally.

    Imagine if Putin amassed a fleet of warships along the California coast, and Biden just did nothing about it for months and months.. This is the same thing I don't know how stuff is in Canada, but in the USA the president serves as the top commander of the military.

    If Russia attacked America then America would act. America has not been attacked (lately).

    The USA has unending diplomacy with Russia and many other contries.

    I see the Biden administration had a big win earlier today.

    Trading civilians for terrorists is NOT diplomacy; it's weakness. The world is less safe after what transpired today. Vadim Krasikov is a convicted assassin. Biden/Harris traded a convicted assassin for a NY Times reporter.

    In 2020 the Trump admin exchanged two American hostages being held by an Iranian backed group in Yemen for ~250 Houthi rebels in Oman.

    Take a few moments for this to all sink in.

    Uh huh.

    Biden didn't escalate, Russia did.

    Putin escalated things, and instead of Biden/Harris using diplomacy, they escalated things even further.

    No, that is not what happened.

    The money was released for humanitarian reasons, we know this.

    Where did those sweet, innocent Iranians spend $6 billion dollars worth of humanitarian aid?

    Get a life.

    You said "Biden Harris" caused this. That is a lie.

    That's your hypothesis. You and I come from different schools.

    No, those are facts.

    Once in a while, we've got to tell the TV "Hey pal, I've had enough of your lies."

    The TV is not lying to you. You are getting lies from liars.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Alan Ianson on Friday, August 02, 2024 09:47:08
    Ukraine is an asset to the USA. Biden let our asset get attacked.

    Ukraine is an ally.

    No. Ukraine supposedly cooperates with NATO, but they are not a member. Our allies are the NATO member nations.

    I see the Biden administration had a big win earlier today.

    Trading civilians for terrorists is NOT diplomacy; it's weakness. The wo is less safe after what transpired today. Vadim Krasikov is a convicted assassin. Biden/Harris traded a convicted assassin for a NY Times report

    In 2020 the Trump admin exchanged two American hostages being held by an Iranian backed group in Yemen for ~250 Houthi rebels in Oman.

    Trump's failures don't equate to a "big win" for the Biden administration.

    Biden didn't escalate, Russia did.

    Putin escalated things, and instead of Biden/Harris using diplomacy, the escalated things even further.

    No, that is not what happened.

    It depends on your definition of "escalate."

    Where did those sweet, innocent Iranians spend $6 billion dollars worth humanitarian aid?

    Get a life.

    Iran is your friend, not mine.

    The TV is not lying to you. You are getting lies from liars.

    I guess I'm lying to myself then, because I'm not taking misinformation from the TV and then walking away acting like I'm the czar of facts.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Aaron Thomas on Friday, August 02, 2024 14:10:10
    No. Ukraine supposedly cooperates with NATO, but they are not a member. Our allies are the NATO member nations.

    The USA has allies well beyond NATO.

    In 2020 the Trump admin exchanged two American hostages being held by an
    Iranian backed group in Yemen for ~250 Houthi rebels in Oman.

    Trump's failures don't equate to a "big win" for the Biden administration.

    No, it's not weakness either..

    No, that is not what happened.

    It depends on your definition of "escalate."

    The word escalate is not hard to define or understand.

    Iran is your friend, not mine.

    What!?

    I guess I'm lying to myself then, because I'm not taking misinformation from the TV and then walking away acting like I'm the czar of facts.

    Facts are not that hard, they are nothing to be afraid of.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Alan Ianson on Friday, August 02, 2024 16:24:36
    No. Ukraine supposedly cooperates with NATO, but they are not a member. allies are the NATO member nations.

    The USA has allies well beyond NATO.

    Ukraine is Joe Biden's ally, but not mine.

    It depends on your definition of "escalate."

    The word escalate is not hard to define or understand.

    If I give someone billions of dollars to kill Russians, it would be accurate for someone to say "Aaron's escalating things."

    Iran is your friend, not mine.

    What!?

    You've credited them as being the distributors of humanitarian aid. That sounds friendly.

    I guess I'm lying to myself then, because I'm not taking misinformation the TV and then walking away acting like I'm the czar of facts.

    Facts are not that hard, they are nothing to be afraid of.

    Facts that go against television narratives can be scary. Xanax can help with that.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Aaron Thomas on Friday, August 02, 2024 16:53:06
    Ukraine is Joe Biden's ally, but not mine.

    So it would seem.

    The word escalate is not hard to define or understand.

    If I give someone billions of dollars to kill Russians, it would be accurate for someone to say "Aaron's escalating things."

    No one gave Ukraine billions of dollars to kill Russians. Ukraine has been given aid to defend itself from the Russian invasion.

    You've credited them as being the distributors of humanitarian aid. That sound friendly.

    You are being emotional. I said that Iran recieved humanitarian aide. Nothing more.

    Facts are not that hard, they are nothing to be afraid of.

    Facts that go against television narratives can be scary. Xanax can help with that.

    Facts are not scarry. Lies are scarry and damaging.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Alan Ianson on Friday, August 02, 2024 20:12:14
    If I give someone billions of dollars to kill Russians, it would be accu for someone to say "Aaron's escalating things."

    No one gave Ukraine billions of dollars to kill Russians. Ukraine has
    been given aid to defend itself from the Russian invasion.

    You can pour maple syrup on it and then sprinkle it with sugar, but they're not going to defend themselves without killing Russians.

    You've credited them as being the distributors of humanitarian aid. That sound friendly.

    You are being emotional. I said that Iran recieved humanitarian aide. Nothing more.

    They're supposed to use it for food and medicine, and the US Treasury supposedly has oversight, but neither you nor I can say for a fact that the money is being spent on food or medicine.

    They didn't "receive humanitarian aid." They received some of their own money that was being held hostage by the USA in a South Korean bank.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Alan Ianson on Saturday, August 03, 2024 05:14:39
    Hello Alan,

    It wasn't hard to figure it out, before it ever happened. When Democrats
    are
    in control of the white house, Ukraine gets invaded by Russia. It happened
    in
    2014, and it happened again in 2021. And it was no surprise to anybody.

    It's true it wasn't a surprise.

    America was attacked on American soil by terrorists, under Bush if I recall.

    After being warned by Richard Clarke and others about the likelihood
    of terrorists using passenger airliners as missiles, and doing nothing
    about it, the unthinkable happened. And then GWB did what had to be
    done. He invoked Article V of the NATO alliance asking for help from
    our friends to defend us from those evil people who had done us so
    much harm. And NATO came to our aid, defending America from al-Qaeda
    and Osama bin Laden.

    Eight years later, Barack Obama ordered Navy Team Six to find and
    take out Osama bin Laden. Nowhere in Afghanistan was he found. And
    nowhere in Iraq was he found. Where was he found? In Pakistan.

    Yesterday, in Cuba, those who helped ObL do his thing accepted
    a plea deal - to remain locked up in tiny cells for the remainder
    of their days in exchange for having Navy Team Six do to them
    what they did to their dear leader.

    Biden has nothing to do with the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

    Ukraine is an asset to the USA. Biden let our asset get attacked.

    Ukraine is an ally.

    Russia attacked Ukraine. For no reason or cause. An unprovoked
    attack. It did so in 2014, illegally annexing Crimea (a recognized
    region of Ukraine). In 2022, Russia decided to go whole hog, bu
    trying to gobble up the entire country.

    Donald Trump did nothing to object. In fact, he praised Putin,
    calling him words I will not repeat.

    Imagine if Putin amassed a fleet of warships along the California coast,
    and
    Biden just did nothing about it for months and months.. This is the same
    thing I don't know how stuff is in Canada, but in the USA the president
    serves as the top commander of the military.

    If Russia attacked America then America would act.

    Remember the White Flag Principle -
    Under Trump, Russia would not have to attack.

    America has not been attacked (lately).

    America has been attacked many times by terrorists.
    From all over the world. But we all know what happened
    to Japan after it attacked Pearl Harbor.

    The USA has unending diplomacy with Russia and many other contries.

    I see the Biden administration had a big win earlier today.

    Trading civilians for terrorists is NOT diplomacy; it's weakness. The
    world
    is less safe after what transpired today. Vadim Krasikov is a convicted
    assassin. Biden/Harris traded a convicted assassin for a NY Times
    reporter.

    In 2020 the Trump admin exchanged two American hostages being held by an Iranian backed group in Yemen for ~250 Houthi rebels in Oman.

    Yesterday the Biden administration convinced Russia to release four
    Americans held hostage in Russia. Some had been there for years. What
    did Trump do to free any of them? Nothing. He could have cared less.


    Take a few moments for this to all sink in.

    Uh huh.

    Biden didn't escalate, Russia did.

    Putin escalated things, and instead of Biden/Harris using diplomacy, they
    escalated things even further.

    No, that is not what happened.

    Four Americans are celebrating, thanks to Biden.
    And every American should also be celebrating with them.

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Aaron Thomas on Friday, August 02, 2024 21:21:50
    No one gave Ukraine billions of dollars to kill Russians. Ukraine has
    been given aid to defend itself from the Russian invasion.

    You can pour maple syrup on it and then sprinkle it with sugar, but they're not going to defend themselves without killing Russians.

    Of course not, those russians came fully armed to attack Ukraine. That is what they continue to do today.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Lee Lofaso on Saturday, August 03, 2024 04:33:10
    Russia attacked Ukraine. For no reason or cause. An unprovoked
    attack. It did so in 2014, illegally annexing Crimea (a recognized
    region of Ukraine). In 2022, Russia decided to go whole hog, bu
    trying to gobble up the entire country.

    Donald Trump did nothing to object. In fact, he praised Putin,
    calling him words I will not repeat.

    It's because Trump wasn't president in 2022. What did Obama, Bush, or Carter do about it? They weren't president in 2022 either.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Aaron Thomas on Saturday, August 03, 2024 17:37:26
    Hello Aaron,

    Ukraine is an asset to the USA. Biden let our asset get attacked.

    Ukraine is an ally.

    No. Ukraine supposedly cooperates with NATO, but they are not a member. Our
    allies are the NATO member nations.

    So. By your own goofball logic, it is okay for China to invade
    Taiwan and do with it whatever it wants. Same as Russia wants to
    do with Ukraine. Unimpeded by the USA or any member of NATO.

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Lee Lofaso on Saturday, August 03, 2024 10:54:50
    No. Ukraine supposedly cooperates with NATO, but they are not a membe Our
    allies are the NATO member nations.

    So. By your own goofball logic, it is okay for China to invade
    Taiwan and do with it whatever it wants. Same as Russia wants to
    do with Ukraine. Unimpeded by the USA or any member of NATO.

    The USA shouldn't be the defender of the world, and it should just be the defender of the USA.

    But Trump is a nicer guy than me. After he defeats your communists, he will defend Ukraine and Taiwan through diplomacy.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Aaron Thomas on Monday, August 05, 2024 18:47:27
    Hello Aaron,

    So. By your own goofball logic, it is okay for China to invade
    Taiwan and do with it whatever it wants. Same as Russia wants to
    do with Ukraine. Unimpeded by the USA or any member of NATO.

    The USA shouldn't be the defender of the world, and it should just be the defender of the USA.

    Do you speak German? That would have been the end result had FDR
    bent the knee to Hitler. But we chose the better path. To defend
    not only ourselves, but also our friends. Hitler did not like
    that. And neither did Mussolini. Or Tojo.

    But Trump is a nicer guy than me. After he defeats your communists, he will
    defend Ukraine and Taiwan through diplomacy.

    Raising the white flag is not an act of diplomacy.
    Refusing to aid allies in times of war is also not
    an act of diplomacy.

    NATO has Article V. It has been invoked one time, by the USA,
    when it was attacked on 9/11. GWB did not raise the white flag,
    and also refused to negoatiate with the terrorists who did the
    deed. NATO came to our aid, and helped us in our time of need.

    Trump wants to pull the USA out of NATO. And act alone.

    Gonna be a fun Olympics in L.A. with only one country participating.

    For Life,
    Lee

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