• Re: What a lovely USA the

    From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Sunday, August 18, 2024 10:03:33
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Björn Felten <=-

    There's no return! How can you call it an "investment" when there's no return? If it was supposed to return anything, it didn't return it, and unless such a return shows up within the next couple months, the voters who have any clue whatsoever are going to "Say no to the ho!" on
    Election Day!

    I need to record that Thomas Sowell quote, so you'll have to do with my paraphrasing.

    The Ignorant Elitists evaluate their policies based on the **intent** of those policies, not the actual outcomes.

    Ex: Minimum Wage. The (stated) intent is to give everyone a raise. The outcome is to reduce jobs. Yet the Ignorant Elitists keep pushing Minimum Wage.

    Now it's "price controls on groceries" (aka "stop gouging for food"). The intent is to lower food prices. The outcome is **always** scarcity of food.

    I don't know. Was it treason when Congress did that to Trump for 4
    years?

    No. It was treason when they stole the election. They just didn't want to be held accountable for that.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Ron L. on Sunday, August 18, 2024 10:24:38
    I need to record that Thomas Sowell quote, so you'll have to do with my paraphrasing.

    The Ignorant Elitists evaluate their policies based on the **intent** of those policies, not the actual outcomes.

    That's smart. I think it's going to be beneficial for me to think about it both ways from now on: 1) What do Democrats expect to get out of this in the
    long run? and 2) Since their logic is often flawed, what will the actual outcome be?

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Monday, August 19, 2024 07:24:21
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    That's smart. I think it's going to be beneficial for me to think about
    it both ways from now on: 1) What do Democrats expect to get out of
    this in the long run? and 2) Since their logic is often flawed, what
    will the actual outcome be?

    They don't apply logic. That's the problem. They stop "thinking" at Stage 1. ex: Minimum Wage laws.

    1. Raise the minimum wage and everyone gets paid more.
    Then what happens?
    2. Employers don't just have that money laying around. So their either cut hours, cut employees, raise prices (which lowers demand), close their doors. Then what happens?
    3. The people who would have gotten "paid more" now have less hours (so they get less pay), or don't have a job (and now get no pay).

    So the end result is the OPPOSITE of what the "intent" is.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Ron L. on Monday, August 19, 2024 08:30:54
    1. Raise the minimum wage and everyone gets paid more.
    Then what happens?
    2. Employers don't just have that money laying around. So their either cut hours, cut employees, raise prices (which lowers demand), close
    their doors. Then what happens?
    3. The people who would have gotten "paid more" now have less hours (so they get less pay), or don't have a job (and now get no pay).

    So the end result is the OPPOSITE of what the "intent" is.

    But when you say "intent," you're making it sound like they actually have a good intention. Maybe they do have a warped idea that that they're doing a good thing for us, but they seem like pure evil to me.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Tuesday, August 20, 2024 07:18:39
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    But when you say "intent," you're making it sound like they actually
    have a good intention. Maybe they do have a warped idea that that
    they're doing a good thing for us, but they seem like pure evil to me.

    It's important to understand that the people we see are just useful idiots. They are frontmen for the people who are evil. Not to say that the frontmen aren't evil in their own right. It's just that they don't have the brains to be evil (and get away with it).

    There have always been people who put their beliefs above facts. When their beliefs fail, they always blame it on someone else and push their beliefs harder. Because to accept that their beliefs are wrong would be to accept that they were wrong - and they have too large an ego to handle that.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Ron L. on Tuesday, August 20, 2024 07:12:16
    But when you say "intent," you're making it sound like they actually have a good intention. Maybe they do have a warped idea that that they're doing a good thing for us, but they seem like pure evil to me

    It's important to understand that the people we see are just useful idiots. They are frontmen for the people who are evil. Not to say that the frontmen aren't evil in their own right. It's just that they don't have the brains to be evil (and get away with it).

    I get it now, and this all makes sense. The intent comes from the top, but the puppets are who we hear it from. Guys like us see right through it, and then our intuition is proven correct 99% of the time, while the intent crumbles and often even backfires on the puppets and their masters.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Tuesday, August 20, 2024 08:25:00
    1. Raise the minimum wage and everyone gets paid more.
    Then what happens?
    2. Employers don't just have that money laying around. So their either cut hours, cut employees, raise prices (which lowers demand), close their doors. Then what happens?
    3. The people who would have gotten "paid more" now have less hours (so they get less pay), or don't have a job (and now get no pay).

    So the end result is the OPPOSITE of what the "intent" is.

    But when you say "intent," you're making it sound like they actually have a good intention. Maybe they do have a warped idea that that they're doing a goo
    thing for us, but they seem like pure evil to me.

    "Intent" is also a word used for criminal activity. Whether or not there
    was "intent" can be the difference between a murder charge (intent) or a manslaughter charge (no intenet).


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