• ftelnet and downloads

    From Dumas Walker@CAPCITY2 to ALL on Thursday, May 06, 2021 16:54:00
    I have had a couple of users ask, so...

    Am I correct in telling them that there is no way to directly download a
    file or QWK packet from the ftelnet session?


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  • From Digital Man to Dumas Walker on Thursday, May 06, 2021 18:20:57
    Re: ftelnet and downloads
    By: Dumas Walker to ALL on Thu May 06 2021 04:54 pm

    I have had a couple of users ask, so...

    Am I correct in telling them that there is no way to directly download a file or QWK packet from the ftelnet session?

    They should be able to download via ftelnet using the YMODEM-G protocol (it supports only YMODEM-G).
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  • From The Millionaire to Dumas Walker on Thursday, May 06, 2021 19:24:51

    I have had a couple of users ask, so...

    Am I correct in telling them that there is no way to directly download a
    file or QWK packet from the ftelnet session?

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    I download through ECWEB4 from the files area and works for me no problem.

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  • From Dumas Walker@CAPCITY2 to DIGITAL MAN on Friday, May 07, 2021 14:11:00
    They should be able to download via ftelnet using the YMODEM-G protocol (it su
    orts only YMODEM-G).

    That does not work here. The result is "<filename> not downloaded!".

    I tried it with Firefox 86.0 on a 64-bit ubuntu machine. I was in a
    private window, if that should matter at all.


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  • From Digital Man to Dumas Walker on Friday, May 07, 2021 17:14:47
    Re: ftelnet and downloads
    By: Dumas Walker to DIGITAL MAN on Fri May 07 2021 02:11 pm

    They should be able to download via ftelnet using the YMODEM-G protocol (it su
    orts only YMODEM-G).

    That does not work here. The result is "<filename> not downloaded!".

    I tried it with Firefox 86.0 on a 64-bit ubuntu machine. I was in a
    private window, if that should matter at all.

    You do have to start the download in fTelnet (e.g. client Menu->Download). YMODEM-G is not an auto-start protocol like ZMODEM.
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  • From Dumas Walker@CAPCITY2 to DIGITAL MAN on Sunday, May 09, 2021 13:27:00
    You do have to start the download in fTelnet (e.g. client Menu->Download). YMOD
    M-G is not an auto-start protocol like ZMODEM.

    I had forgotten that. It seemed to reject it pretty fast, though. I will
    have to try it again and see if I can get the download started before it
    throws the error.


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  • From Dumas Walker@CAPCITY2 to Digital Man on Monday, May 10, 2021 14:26:27
    You do have to start the download in fTelnet (e.g. client Menu->Download). YMODEM-G is not an auto-start protocol like >ZMODEM.

    Hmmm... there is no menu in my ftelnet window to choose Download from. Where are you seeing that? What browsers does that work with?

    I tried right-clicking in the ftelnet window in a Firefox session but the menu that came up didn't include any download choices... only choices about saving the image and a few other options you normally get when right-clicking in a web browser.

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  • From Digital Man to Dumas Walker on Monday, May 10, 2021 21:19:28
    Re: ftelnet and downloads
    By: Dumas Walker to Digital Man on Mon May 10 2021 02:26 pm

    You do have to start the download in fTelnet (e.g. client Menu->Download). YMODEM-G is not an auto-start protocol like >ZMODEM.

    Hmmm... there is no menu in my ftelnet window to choose Download from.
    Where are you seeing that?
    https://1drv.ms/u/s!ApZPvWcrEaRQxbBph8ug0-oZpZnmDw?e=M6LfWP

    What browsers does that work with?

    Any that support HTML5 I think.

    I tried right-clicking in the ftelnet window in a Firefox session but the menu that came up didn't include any download choices... only choices about saving the image and a few other options you normally get when right-clicking in a web browser.

    It's not a right-click menu.
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  • From Dumas Walker@CAPCITY2 to Digital Man on Tuesday, May 11, 2021 09:35:11
    Re: ftelnet and downloads
    By: Dumas Walker to Digital Man on Mon May 10 2021 02:26 pm

    https://1drv.ms/u/s!ApZPvWcrEaRQxbBph8ug0-oZpZnmDw?e=M6LfWP

    I am using ecwebv3 and am not seeing that menu on the main page where the ftelnet option is.

    Any that support HTML5 I think.

    I assume that Firefox 86.0 does.

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  • From Digital Man to Dumas Walker on Tuesday, May 11, 2021 13:01:23
    Re: ftelnet and downloads
    By: Dumas Walker to Digital Man on Tue May 11 2021 09:35 am

    Re: ftelnet and downloads
    By: Dumas Walker to Digital Man on Mon May 10 2021 02:26 pm

    https://1drv.ms/u/s!ApZPvWcrEaRQxbBph8ug0-oZpZnmDw?e=M6LfWP

    I am using ecwebv3 and am not seeing that menu on the main page where the ftelnet option is.

    It's available when using the legacy/runemaster Web UI or ecwebv4. There's likely an ftelnet option you can set to enable it or maybe you just need to upgrade ftelnet to a newer version which includes the download option.
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  • From Al@TRMB to Dumas Walker on Tuesday, May 11, 2021 21:14:21
    Re: ftelnet and downloads
    By: Dumas Walker to Digital Man on Tue May 11 2021 09:35 am

    I am using ecwebv3 and am not seeing that menu on the main page where the ftelnet option is.

    There is an option in modopts.ini, ftelnet_menubar=true that will enable a few things, this is one of them if I remember right.

    I tried this but never had success with it. If you do I'd like to hear about it.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Digital Man to Al on Tuesday, May 11, 2021 21:36:22
    Re: ftelnet and downloads
    By: Al to Dumas Walker on Tue May 11 2021 09:14 pm

    Re: ftelnet and downloads
    By: Dumas Walker to Digital Man on Tue May 11 2021 09:35 am

    I am using ecwebv3 and am not seeing that menu on the main page where the ftelnet option is.

    There is an option in modopts.ini, ftelnet_menubar=true that will enable a few things, this is one of them if I remember right.

    I tried this but never had success with it. If you do I'd like to hear about it.

    Good find!

    I do have that too:
    modopts.ini:
    [web]
    ftelnet_menubar = true
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  • From Nelgin@EOTLBBS to Al on Wednesday, May 12, 2021 11:20:44
    Al wrote:
    Re: ftelnet and downloads
    By: Dumas Walker to Digital Man on Tue May 11 2021 09:35 am

    I am using ecwebv3 and am not seeing that menu on the main page where the
    ftelnet option is.

    There is an option in modopts.ini, ftelnet_menubar=true that will enable a few things, this is one of them if I remember right.

    I tried this but never had success with it. If you do I'd like to hear about it.

    There's no ftelnet_menubar in modopts.ini

    Neither is there reference to it in the ftelnet.js file either.

    Anyway, menu only has Connect, Disconnect, Copy, Paste, Keyboard, and Full Screen. Nothing about downloading.

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  • From Digital Man to Nelgin on Wednesday, May 12, 2021 12:22:25
    Re: Re: ftelnet and downloads
    By: Nelgin to Al on Wed May 12 2021 11:20 am

    Al wrote:
    Re: ftelnet and downloads
    By: Dumas Walker to Digital Man on Tue May 11 2021 09:35 am

    I am using ecwebv3 and am not seeing that menu on the main page where the
    ftelnet option is.

    There is an option in modopts.ini, ftelnet_menubar=true that will enable a few things, this is one of them if I remember right.

    I tried this but never had success with it. If you do I'd like to hear about it.

    There's no ftelnet_menubar in modopts.ini

    Then you can add it. It's documented at http://wiki.synchro.net/config:webv4

    Neither is there reference to it in the ftelnet.js file either.

    It's referenced in webv4/pages/000-home.xjs

    Anyway, menu only has Connect, Disconnect, Copy, Paste, Keyboard, and Full Screen. Nothing about downloading.

    <shrug>
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  • From Mortifis@ALLEYCAT to Nelgin on Wednesday, May 12, 2021 19:35:30
    Re: Re: ftelnet and downloads
    By: Nelgin to Al on Wed May 12 2021 11:20 am

    Anyway, menu only has Connect, Disconnect, Copy, Paste, Keyboard, and Full Screen. Nothing about downloading.



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  • From Dumas Walker@CAPCITY2 to DIGITAL MAN on Wednesday, May 12, 2021 18:30:00
    It's available when using the legacy/runemaster Web UI or ecwebv4. There's lik
    y an ftelnet option you can set to enable it or maybe you just need to upgrade
    telnet to a newer version which includes the download option.

    I pointed mine to the webv4 directory and still got the same thing.

    I add the option for the toolbar to modopts, which turned the toolbar on
    but it still does not have a download option, and synchronet still aborts
    the transfer almost immediately... so if I did have one I doubt I would
    have a chance to select it.

    How do you upgrade the ftelnet used with synchronet?

    I checked the ..\webv4\lib\ftelnet.js. It has a function to pull the
    splash and appears to be looking for settings.ftelnet_splash which is in modopts.ini. It also has this section:

    function get_variant() {
    if (!settings) return 'norip.noxfer';
    return (settings.ftelnet_rip ? 'rip' : 'norip') + '.' +
    (settings.ftelnet_xfer ? 'xfer' : 'noxfer');
    }

    I tried adding ftelnet_xfer=true, ftelnet_xfer=xfer, and ftelnet_xfer to modopts but no dice. What is this function looking for?

    Also, is there a place where one can see what URL was built to make the
    ftelnet call? That is where the result of this function ultimately appears
    to go.


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  • From Dumas Walker@CAPCITY2 to AL on Wednesday, May 12, 2021 17:59:00
    There is an option in modopts.ini, ftelnet_menubar=true that will enable a few
    hings, this is one of them if I remember right.

    I tried this but never had success with it. If you do I'd like to hear about i

    Thanks that turned the menu bar on all right, but still no joy with downloading.


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