Hi DM,

In the msg_area.grp_list.sub_list array, when should the scan_ptr and last_read values be updated for a sub-board? For instance, when simply reading messages (i.e., not doing a newscan), would both of those be updated or would only last_read be updated? And conversely, when reading messages during a newscan, would only the scan_ptr value be updated, or would both scan_ptr and last_read be updated?

Also, it looks like there's a typo in the Synchronet JS documentation at http://www.synchro.net/docs/jsobjs.html - Under the "msg_area.grp_list.sub_list array" section, the last row in the table has "lead_read" - I believe that should be "last_read"?

Nightfox

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Re: last_read and scan_ptr values
By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Wed Mar 25 2015 09:39 pm

Hi DM,

In the msg_area.grp_list.sub_list array, when should the scan_ptr and last_read values be updated for a sub-board? For instance, when simply reading messages (i.e., not doing a newscan), would both of those be updated or would only last_read be updated? And conversely, when reading messages during a newscan, would only the scan_ptr value be updated, or would both scan_ptr and last_read be updated?

Any time the currently displayed message number is greater than the current scan_ptr, the scan_ptr should be updated. For every message displayed, the last_read should be updated. These apply regardless of the method of message reading/scanning.

Also, it looks like there's a typo in the Synchronet JS documentation at http://www.synchro.net/docs/jsobjs.html - Under the "msg_area.grp_list.sub_list array" section, the last row in the table has "lead_read" - I believe that should be "last_read"?

Yeah, that was fixed quite a while ago but the jsobjs.html hasn't be re-generated since then. Thanks,

digital man

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Re: last_read and scan_ptr values
By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Thu Mar 26 2015 21:55:01

Any time the currently displayed message number is greater than the current scan_ptr, the scan_ptr should be updated. For every message displayed, the last_read should be updated. These apply regardless of the method of message reading/scanning.

OK, thanks.

Nightfox

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Re: last_read and scan_ptr values
By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Thu Mar 26 2015 21:55:01

If a new message is posted in a sub-board and that's the only message in the sub-board, it seems that scan_ptr and last_read would point to that message (is that correct?). If the currently logged-in user reads that message, then scan_ptr and last_read would remain unchanged since that's the only message in the sub-board. During a newscan, how can a JavaScript script determine whether the user has read that message (even if it wasn't written to the user - so the MSG_READ attribute wouldn't be set)?

Nightfox

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Re: last_read and scan_ptr values
By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Fri Mar 27 2015 22:49:47

If a new message is posted in a sub-board and that's the only message in the sub-board, it seems that scan_ptr and last_read would point to that message (is that correct?). If the currently logged-in user reads that message, then scan_ptr and last_read would remain unchanged since that's the only message in the sub-board. During a newscan, how can a JavaScript script determine whether the user has read that message (even if it wasn't written to the user - so the MSG_READ attribute wouldn't be set)?

I've done a little bit more testing this morning, and now I'm wondering if 0 is a meaningful value for scan_ptr? If I post a new message in an empty sub-board, it seems that the scan_ptr value for that sub-board is 0 until I read the message I posted. A related question is, will a message number (the 'number' property in a message header) ever be 0?

Nightfox

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Re: last_read and scan_ptr values
By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Fri Mar 27 2015 10:49 pm

Re: last_read and scan_ptr values
By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Thu Mar 26 2015 21:55:01

If a new message is posted in a sub-board and that's the only message in the sub-board, it seems that scan_ptr and last_read would point to that message (is that correct?).

Posting a message does not modify either the user's scan_ptr or last_read values. Only reading messages modifies those values.

If the currently logged-in user reads that message,
then scan_ptr and last_read would remain unchanged since that's the only message in the sub-board.

No, if the user has never read messages on a sub-board, then their scan_ptr and
last_read values would be 0 (no message).

During a newscan, how can a JavaScript script
determine whether the user has read that message (even if it wasn't written to the user - so the MSG_READ attribute wouldn't be set)?

The MSG_READ attribute should be set anytime a user reads a message addressed to them and the attribute is not already set. You don't need to check any pointers for that. You can see how Synchronet checks/sets the MSG_READ attribute by searching for MSG_READ in: http://cvs.synchro.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/src/sbbs3/readmsgs.cpp

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Re: last_read and scan_ptr values
By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Sat Mar 28 2015 09:17 am

Re: last_read and scan_ptr values
By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Fri Mar 27 2015 22:49:47

If a new message is posted in a sub-board and that's the only message in the sub-board, it seems that scan_ptr and last_read would point to that message (is that correct?). If the currently logged-in user reads that message, then scan_ptr and last_read would remain unchanged since that's the only message in the sub-board. During a newscan, how can a JavaScript script determine whether the user has read that message (even if it wasn't written to the user - so the MSG_READ attribute wouldn't be set)?

I've done a little bit more testing this morning, and now I'm wondering if 0 is a meaningful value for scan_ptr? If I post a new message in an empty sub-board, it seems that the scan_ptr value for that sub-board is 0 until I read the message I posted.

Correct. Posting a message does not change any message pointers and the initial
pointer value will be 0 (no message).

A related question is, will a message number
(the 'number' property in a message header) ever be 0?

No. 0 is a special value indicating "no message". You can read about SMB message numbers here: http://synchro.net/docs/smb.html#Index File (*.SID)

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If a new message is posted in a sub-board and that's the only message in the sub-board, it seems that scan_ptr and last_read would point to that message (is that correct?). If the

currently

logged-in user reads that message, then scan_ptr and last_read would remain unchanged since that's the only message in the sub-board. During a newscan, how can a JavaScript script

determine

whether the user has read that message (even if it wasn't

written

to the user - so the MSG_READ attribute wouldn't be set)?

I've done a little bit more testing this morning, and now I'm

wondering

if 0 is a meaningful value for scan_ptr? If I post a new message in

an

empty sub-board, it seems that the scan_ptr value for that sub-board

is

0 until I read the message I posted.

Correct. Posting a message does not change any message pointers and the initial pointer value will be 0 (no message).

A related question is, will a message number
(the 'number' property in a message header) ever be 0?

No. 0 is a special value indicating "no message". You can read about SMB message numbers here: http://synchro.net/docs/smb.html#Index File

(*.SID)

Thanks - This confirms what I was wondering.

I understand that posting won't modify those pointers; maybe my question could have been worded better in regards to that - I was referring to doing a
newscan after a new message had been posted by another user (and on my BBS, I was testing a situation where a sub-board only has one message in it).

Nightfox

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El 27/03/15 a las 01:55, "Digital Man" escibi≤:

Yeah, that was fixed quite a while ago but the jsobjs.html hasn't be re-generated since then. Thanks,

digital man

I don't remember exactly now why, but i know that i could not regenerate jsobs.html from source code. I had a wrong html output:

http://bbs.docksud.com.ar/tmp/jsobjs.html

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