• Squish Archiving

    From Marty Blankenship@1:2320/303 to All on Monday, January 02, 2006 22:32:26
    How can I get squish to use one of my aka's instead of my main fidonet
    address when packing mail bundles? I have address lines in my squish.cfg file but it states that it uses all the address lines after the first as an aka. When my system packs mail to another network other than fidonet, it always uses my fidonet address on the archived mail bundles instead of the network address aka for that network. Any ideas come to mind from anyone? I'm useing version 1.11 of squish on a DOS box. If anyone wants me to post my squish.cfg to show me where I'm makeing my mistake, just let me know. Thanks in advance as I'm sure I'll get plenty of replies.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Marty Blankenship on Monday, January 02, 2006 20:47:00
    Marty Blankenship wrote to All:
    How can I get squish to use one of my aka's instead of my main fidonet address when packing mail bundles? I have address lines in my squish.cfg file
    but it states that it uses all the address lines after the first as an aka.
    When my system packs mail to another network other than fidonet, it always uses my fidonet address on the archived mail bundles instead of the network
    address aka for that network. Any ideas come to mind from anyone? I'm useing
    version 1.11 of squish on a DOS box. If anyone wants me to post my squish.cfg
    to show me where I'm makeing my mistake, just let me know. Thanks in advance
    as I'm sure I'll get plenty of replies.

    I think if you add -p111:111/111 before the node your sending to squish
    will use that address instead of your main aka for path lines, seen-bys
    and packet headers. Replace 111:111/111 with the node number you want
    to be used for that area.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Dieter Ringhofer@2:2476/14.989 to Marty Blankenship on Tuesday, January 03, 2006 14:21:31
    Hello Marty!

    Monday January 02 2006 22:32, Marty Blankenship wrote to All:

    How can I get squish to use one of my aka's instead of my main fidonet address when packing mail bundles? I have address lines in my squish.cfg file but it states that it uses all the address lines after the first as an aka.

    When defining an area (netmail or echomail) use -p<aka to use> in the very same
    line in squish.cfg.

    When my system packs mail to another network other than fidonet,
    it always uses my fidonet address on the archived mail bundles instead
    of the network address aka for that network.

    I'm (still) running a multihomed system in several networks using multiple AKAs
    in each network. Therefore I defined specific ForwardTo/ForwardFrom statements for each zone in squish.cfg to ensure correct target zones.

    In route.cfg I defined specific routing statements, i.e.:
    route normal <file> <zone.net.node.point> <z.n.??? net/hub/node/...>
    send direct <file> <zone.net.node.point>

    More global:
    route normal target which_addresses
    send flavour target

    Never leave a paket alone while it has normal flavour. It will be grabbed when Squish encounters another matching route statement!

    Squish works fine using as many AKAs as you want the correct way when doing it this way (first "route normal", than immediately "send <flavour not normal>"). Best example is my BBS:
    Doing it this way works fine since many years over here at my point/node/hub/host/gateway system in different networks.

    HTH!

    btw:
    Happy new year! :-)

    cu, Dieter

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  • From Marty Blankenship@1:2320/303 to Alan Ianson on Tuesday, January 03, 2006 21:23:57
    |11┌─|03─[|15Quoting |12Alan Ianson |15to |12Marty Blankenship |03]──∙·· |11└─|03─[|15Taken from: |13[Fido] Squish Help |03]──»

    I think if you add -p111:111/111 before the node your sending to squish will use that address instead of your main aka for path lines, seen-bys
    and packet headers. Replace 111:111/111 with the node number you want
    to be used for that area.

    I'm already doing that for each of the echos. It puts everything in there
    like it is suppose to but when it packs it up useing zip etc. it uses my fidonet address on all the archived bundles instead of my aka's.

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  • From Marty Blankenship@1:2320/303 to Dieter Ringhofer on Tuesday, January 03, 2006 21:31:54
    |11┌─|03─[|15Quoting |12Dieter Ringhofer |15to |12Marty Blankenship |03]──∙·· |11└─|03─[|15Taken from: |13[Fido] Squish Help |03]──»

    When defining an area (netmail or echomail) use -p<aka to use> in the very same line in squish.cfg.

    I'm already doing this. I have many echomail areas, but just 1 netmail area.

    In route.cfg I defined specific routing statements, i.e.:
    route normal <file> <zone.net.node.point> <z.n.??? net/hub/node/...>
    send direct <file> <zone.net.node.point>

    I have something like this in my route.cfg

    Send Normal World
    Send Direct 92:602/100
    Send Direct 510:507/0

    etc.

    Is this where I'm haveing the problem then?

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  • From Bob Jones@1:343/41 to Marty Blankenship on Tuesday, January 03, 2006 22:03:32
    I have something like this in my route.cfg

    Send Normal World
    Send Direct 92:602/100
    Send Direct 510:507/0

    etc.

    Is this where I'm haveing the problem then?

    The two "Send Direct" lines should come before the "Send Normal" line. If 92:602/100 and 510:507/0 are the nodes seeing the problem, then this is probably the cause of the issue.

    Bob Jones, 1:343/41


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  • From Peter Knapper@3:772/1.10 to Marty Blankenship on Thursday, January 05, 2006 00:31:24
    Hi Marty,

    How can I get squish to use one of my aka's instead of my main fidonet address when packing mail bundles? I have address lines
    in my squish.cfg file
    but it states that it uses all the address lines after
    the first as an aka.

    Just a wild guess but in ROUTE.CFG are you routing for these nodes BEFORE you route to WORLD? If you have these out of order then the WORLD address becomes the origin for everything that follows that statement.

    Cheers............pk.


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  • From Marty Blankenship@1:2320/303 to Bob Jones on Wednesday, January 04, 2006 18:38:56
    |11┌─|03─[|15Quoting |12Bob Jones |15to |12Marty Blankenship |03]──∙·· |11└─|03─[|15Taken from: |13[Fido] Squish Help |03]──»

    The two "Send Direct" lines should come before the "Send Normal" line. If 92:602/100 and 510:507/0 are the nodes seeing the problem, then this is probably the cause of the issue.

    Originally I had the send normal line after the send direct lines. I just changed then before I posted the messages and it didn't make a difference. I have many send direct lines in my route.cfg file and those 2 nodes aren't the only ones seeing my fidonet address on the archived packets. I can load up frontdoor and look at the archived bundles and they all have my fidonet
    address on them instead of my networks aka.

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  • From Marty Blankenship@1:2320/303 to Peter Knapper on Wednesday, January 04, 2006 18:42:57
    |11┌─|03─[|15Quoting |12Peter Knapper |15to |12Marty Blankenship |03]──∙·· |11└─|03─[|15Taken from: |13[Fido] Squish Help |03]──»

    Just a wild guess but in ROUTE.CFG are you routing for these nodes BEFORE y route to WORLD? If you have these out of order then the WORLD address becom the origin for everything that follows that statement.

    I've tried it both ways and the only difference that I can see is that when I load up frontdoor. When I do that with the send normal world before any of the send direct lines, it doesn't display the fidonet address after the arcmail
    in the header, but when you view the notes it has my fidonet address still on them. With the send normal world line after all my send direct lines it displays my fidonet address in the arcmail header as well as in the notes.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Marty Blankenship on Wednesday, January 04, 2006 18:50:26
    Marty Blankenship wrote to Alan Ianson:

    I think if you add -p111:111/111 before the node your sending to squish
    will use that address instead of your main aka for path
    lines, seen-bys and packet headers. Replace 111:111/111 with
    the node number you want to be used for that area.

    I'm already doing that for each of the echos. It puts everything in there like it is suppose to but when it packs it up useing zip etc. it uses my fidonet address on all the archived bundles instead of my aka's.

    It's been some time now since I have used squish but I remember
    going through this myself. I used a utility by David Nugent, I
    forget what it's called now but there are dos and os2 versions of
    it, maybe you know the one I mean? It was quite nice for looking
    at .pkt files and seeing exactly what was in them in the way of
    aka's and packet headers. It won't solve your problem but it does
    make looking at the .pkt's easier when your trying to diagnose
    something like this.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Peter Knapper@3:772/1.10 to Alan Ianson on Thursday, January 05, 2006 18:17:36
    Hi Alan,

    I'm already doing that for each of the echos. It
    puts everything in there
    like it is suppose to but when it packs it up
    useing zip etc. it uses my
    fidonet address on all the archived bundles instead of my aka's.

    It's been some time now since I have used squish but I remember
    going through this myself. I used a utility by David Nugent, I
    forget what it's called now but there are dos and os2 versions of
    it,

    That would be INSPECTA, and excellent Packet level utillity.

    Cheers.............pk.


    --- Maximus/2 3.01
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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Peter Knapper on Thursday, January 05, 2006 18:14:50
    Peter Knapper wrote to Alan Ianson:

    It's been some time now since I have used squish but I remember
    going through this myself. I used a utility by David Nugent, I
    forget what it's called now but there are dos and os2 versions of
    it,

    That would be INSPECTA, and excellent Packet level utillity.

    That's the one. Thanks for the reminder.. :)

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Bob Jones@1:343/41 to Marty Blankenship on Thursday, January 05, 2006 22:01:16
    The two "Send Direct" lines should come before the
    "Send Normal" line. If
    92:602/100 and 510:507/0 are the nodes seeing the
    problem, then this is
    probably the cause of the issue.

    Originally I had the send normal line after the send direct lines. I just changed then before I posted the messages and it didn't
    make a difference. I
    have many send direct lines in my route.cfg file and
    those 2 nodes aren't the
    only ones seeing my fidonet address on the archived
    packets. I can load up
    frontdoor and look at the archived bundles and they all have my fidonet address on them instead of my networks aka.

    I suspect that with Squish being 4D and not 5D aware, along with trying to run a single copy of squish is the problem. The only time I was involved with a non-Fidonet address, I only talked to nodes in Fidonet, so my Fidonet node number wouldn't have caused problems.....

    Interesting.... Results from using Inspecta (mentioned in other recent messages) would be able to confirm the problem. One solution is to make seperate squish runs for each different network, using it's own control file. The only potential glitch with that is that you will need to do some special zone definitions for all but the main FTN configuration if you are using Binkley Style Outbound areas..... Now, if you aren't using that, then the problem may be one with the interactions between squish and your front end. Since I run Binkley, and I know there is an option for an alternate style, that
    may be where the problem is....

    Bob Jones, 1:343/41

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  • From Dieter Ringhofer@2:2476/14 to Bob Jones on Friday, January 06, 2006 14:12:07
    Am Donnerstag, 05 Januar 2006 schrieb Bob Jones an Marty Blankenship:

    The two "Send Direct" lines should come before the
    "Send Normal" line. If
    92:602/100 and 510:507/0 are the nodes seeing the ...

    Originally I had the send normal line after the send direct lines. I

    I suspect that with Squish being 4D and not 5D aware, along with trying to run a single copy of squish is the problem.

    Be ensured: No, it isn't.

    Have a look at my description in previous posting and watch sequence as well as
    'unneeded' route/send combination. I never used a 'world' statement.

    Doing it the way mentioned Squish will work fine in an environment where
    - 5D setup is used (i.e. binkd is a simple drop-in for multiple networks)
    - more than 10 networks have been served
    - multiple ftn-gateways between multiple networks are running
    - within Fido even zonegating has been done via a point AKA (!)
    - remember Fido-Putsch in 90's over here in Germany. I 'zonegated' all zones.
    - system is everything from point system to central host (zone)

    Not doing it this way Squish *will* cause trouble for sure with very few networks (might be two or three).

    JFI:
    My largest route.cfg had more than 100 kB size without need of any tracker like
    Itrack. I use Itrack since I became too lazy to maintain Squish in such an extend but there's is no real need for it ...

    cu, Dieter

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Dieter Ringhofer on Friday, January 06, 2006 10:35:36
    Dieter Ringhofer wrote to Bob Jones:

    Be ensured: No, it isn't.

    Sometimes you just have to stop and give credit where credit is due.
    Scott Dudley sure did a good job with Maximus and Squish. I still
    marvel at it to this day.. :)

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Mike Tripp@1:382/61 to Alan Ianson on Saturday, January 07, 2006 10:17:20
    Hello Alan!

    06 Jan 06 10:35, Alan Ianson wrote to Dieter Ringhofer:

    Sometimes you just have to stop and give credit where credit is due.
    Scott Dudley sure did a good job with Maximus and Squish. I still
    marvel at it to this day.. :)

    Especially considering that it was high-schooler hobby programming...

    .\\ike

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  • From Marty Blankenship@1:2320/303 to Bob Jones on Saturday, January 07, 2006 23:13:31
    |11┌─|03─[|15Quoting |12Bob Jones |15to |12Marty Blankenship |03]──∙·· |11└─|03─[|15Taken from: |13[Fido] Squish Help |03]──»

    Interesting.... Results from using Inspecta (mentioned in other recent

    I found this file on the net and ran it and checked out all my archived bundles. It only tells me the node address of the individual pakets inside the archived bundle and doesn't tell me anything about about the archived file at all. Everything inside the bundles checked out correctly with the right node addresses.

    The only potential glitch with that is that you will need to do some specia zone definitions for all but the main FTN configuration if you are using Binkley Style Outbound areas..... Now, if you aren't using that, then the

    I don't use blinkley style outbound at all, not even squish type. I use normal type outbound that one would use with frontdoor type mailers.

    Now, if you aren't using that, then the
    problem may be one with the interactions between squish and your front end. Since I run Binkley, and I know there is an option for an alternate style, that may be where the problem is....

    I don't use a frontend mailer at all. I do all my stuff through Transx, I just have Frontdoor around to use it's Xrobot program for my InterBBS Global War game.

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  • From Peter Knapper@3:772/1.10 to Marty Blankenship on Sunday, January 08, 2006 20:10:06
    Hi Marty,

    Everything inside the bundles checked out correctly with the
    right node addresses.

    This suggests the Mail Bundles are formed correctly, so it must be a mailer issue...

    ... Then you say ...

    I don't use blinkley style outbound at all, not even squish type.

    Ok, so you are not using BSO (Bink Style Oubound),

    I use normal type outbound

    Normal??? What is a "Normal" type outbound.

    that one would use with frontdoor type mailers.

    Ahaaa, FrontDoor uses AMA, or "Arcmail Attach" outbound, where the packet to be
    sent is linked to a Netmail Message as a "File Attach", so it uses the Netmail message for its routing. This suggests to me that whatever S/W is creating those AMA Netmails is causing the addressing issue.

    I don't use a frontend mailer at all. I do all my stuff
    through Transx,

    Do you know if TransX creates the Netmail Message (I have never used TransX so I do not know)? if it does then that must be causing the problem somehow...


    I just
    have Frontdoor around to use it's Xrobot program for my
    InterBBS Global War game.

    So it can't be FrontDoor causing the problem then, as it creates the Netmail on
    the fly...

    Cheers............pk.


    --- Maximus/2 3.01
    * Origin: Another Good Point About OS/2 (3:772/1.10)
  • From Marty Blankenship@1:2320/303 to Peter Knapper on Sunday, January 08, 2006 15:55:07
    |11┌─|03─[|15Quoting |12Peter Knapper |15to |12Marty Blankenship |03]──∙·· |11└─|03─[|15Taken from: |13[Fido] Squish Help |03]──»

    Do you know if TransX creates the Netmail Message (I have never used TransX I do not know)? if it does then that must be causing the problem somehow...

    Transx doesn't touch the archived bundles until it is ready to send them out. I still think it is something I'm overlooking in my squish setup. I can look at my squish.log file and it shows where it created the archived bundle with my fidonet address.

    So it can't be FrontDoor causing the problem then, as it creates the Netmai on the fly...

    I never thought that it was a Frontdoor problem as the archived packets are already made before I even load it up.

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  • From Bob Jones@1:343/41 to Marty Blankenship on Sunday, January 08, 2006 13:06:54
    The only potential glitch with that is that you
    will need to do some specia
    zone definitions for all but the main FTN
    configuration if you are using
    Binkley Style Outbound areas..... Now, if you
    aren't using that, then the

    I don't use blinkley style outbound at all, not even
    squish type. I use normal
    type outbound that one would use with frontdoor type mailers.

    Since you are not using Binkley Style Outbound, I believe the error you have been mentioning is not from squish, but from what ever external (mailer?) program you are using to create the final archive for sending. If I remember correctly, squish only creates final bundles for Binkley Style Outbound. And frontdoor uses an alternate methoid.

    I don't use a frontend mailer at all. I do all my stuff
    through Transx, I just
    have Frontdoor around to use it's Xrobot program for my
    InterBBS Global War
    game.

    Then what is producing your final mail bundles for sending. If you aren't Binkley Style Outbound, then it should be something other than Squish.

    Take care.....

    Bob Jones, 1:343/41


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  • From Peter Knapper@3:772/1.10 to Marty Blankenship on Monday, January 09, 2006 11:31:20
    Hi Marty,

    I still think it is something I'm overlooking in my squish setup.

    So your archive bundle has your Fidonet address and not the AKA for your othernet. Do the packed messages contain the correct Origin address?

    Please post your Squish.Cfg file, because something else is not right somewhere.

    Cheers...........pk.


    --- Maximus/2 3.01
    * Origin: Another Good Point About OS/2 (3:772/1.10)
  • From Marty Blankenship@1:2320/303 to Bob Jones on Sunday, January 08, 2006 23:15:26
    |11┌─|03─[|15Quoting |12Bob Jones |15to |12Marty Blankenship |03]──∙·· |11└─|03─[|15Taken from: |13[Fido] Squish Help |03]──»

    Then what is producing your final mail bundles for sending. If you aren't Binkley Style Outbound, then it should be something other than Squish.

    Here is my mailout.bat file. I took out all the comented lines.

    D:
    cd D:\RENEGADE
    renemail -S
    D:
    CD\S
    SQUISH OUT SQUASH -q -m
    D:
    cd D:\RENEGADE
    renemail -P -F
    cd\black
    bh bhze2bn.cfg
    bh bhze2jn.cfg
    D:
    CD\S\OUT.SQ
    REN *.*UT *.PKT
    CD\RENEGADE

    As you can see I am only useing Squish. The bh line is blackhole which I use to gate certain echos to other nets. The renemail line is just a tosser to toss *.msg files into Renegade. If anyone wants me to post my squish.cfg file here I will. I will take out the comented lines in it as well as my password lines.

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  • From Marty Blankenship@1:2320/303 to Peter Knapper on Sunday, January 08, 2006 23:18:45
    |11┌─|03─[|15Quoting |12Peter Knapper |15to |12Marty Blankenship |03]──∙·· |11└─|03─[|15Taken from: |13[Fido] Squish Help |03]──»

    So your archive bundle has your Fidonet address and not the AKA for your othernet. Do the packed messages contain the correct Origin address?

    All the *.pkt files inside the archived bundle has the origin for the correct AKA for each net. Your statement is correct in what I am seeing.

    Please post your Squish.Cfg file, because something else is not right somewhere.

    I'll post it when I get home from work Monday afternoon.

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  • From Russell Tiedt@5:7105/1 to Peter Knapper on Monday, January 09, 2006 07:48:09
    Hello Peter.

    09 Jan 06 11:31, you wrote to Marty Blankenship:

    I still think it is something I'm overlooking in my squish setup.


    So your archive bundle has your Fidonet address and not the AKA for
    your othernet. Do the packed messages contain the correct Origin
    address?

    Please post your Squish.Cfg file, because something else is not right somewhere.

    Settings in his MsgEd/GoldEd or other editor he is using?

    Russell

    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5
    * Origin: Rusty's BBS - Bloemfontein, Free State, South Africa (5:7105/1)
  • From Marty Blankenship@1:2320/303 to Peter Knapper on Monday, January 09, 2006 17:30:19
    |11┌─|03─[|15Quoting |12Peter Knapper |15to |12Marty Blankenship |03]──∙·· |11└─|03─[|15Taken from: |13[Fido] Squish Help |03]──»

    Please post your Squish.Cfg file, because something else is not right somewhere.

    Here is my squish.cfg file with all the commented lines took out.


    Address 1:2320/303
    Address 7:77/0
    Address 25:25/6
    Address 50:120/8
    Address 80:502/100
    Address 80:502/101
    Address 92:606/0
    Address 92:606/100
    Address 92:606/101
    Address 92:6700/0
    Address 92:92/0
    Address 510:5114/0
    Address 510:326/0
    Address 510:326/1

    NetFile D:\FD\FILE

    ArcmailAttach

    Compress Compress.Cfg

    Routing Route.Cfg

    Outbound D:\S\OUT

    LogFile Squish.Log

    Origin The GameMaster BBS gamemasterbbs.darktech.org

    CheckZones

    QuietArc

    Duplicates 1000

    KillBlank

    Pointnet 99
    Pointnet 1
    Pointnet 2

    Track MsgTrack.Log

    Pack Zip 1:3635/all 50:120/all 1:11/all 50:50/all 1:2215/all 92:602/all 510:*/all 92:810/all
    Pack Zip 92:330/all

    DefaultPacker Zip

    SaveControlInfo

    ForwardTo WORLD
    ForwardTo File WORLD

    ForwardFrom WORLD
    ForwardFrom File WORLD

    BusyFlags

    TossBadMsgs

    BatchUnarc

    Statistics

    StripAttributes

    MaxAttach 500

    Buffers Medium

    NetArea NETMAIL D:\renegade\netmail

    BadArea BAD_MSGS D:\S\BAD

    DupeArea DUPES D:\S\DUPES

    EchoArea 2320_NET D:\RENEGADE\ECHOMAIL\2320_NET -p1:2320/303 1:261/38 ;EchoSpec 2320_NET 1 f
    EchoArea 2320_SYSOP D:\RENEGADE\ECHOMAIL\2320_SYS -p1:2320/303 1:261/38 ;EchoSpec 2320_SYSOP 1 f
    EchoArea ALT.BBS.RENEGADE D:\RENEGADE\ECHOMAIL\ALTBBSRE -p50:120/8 1:2320/303.99
    ;EchoSpec ALT.BBS.RENEGADE 2 r RGSNet: ALT.BBS.RENEGADE Newsgroup Gated echo. EchoArea ALT26001 D:\RENEGADE\ECHOMAIL\ALT26001 -p1:2320/303 1:2320/303.99 ;EchoSpec ALT26001 9 .
    EchoArea ALTART D:\RENEGADE\ECHOMAIL\ALTART -p1:2320/303 1:2320/303.99 ;EchoSpec ALTART 9 .
    EchoArea ALTBBS D:\RENEGADE\ECHOMAIL\ALTBBS -p1:2320/303 1:2320/303.99 ;EchoSpec ALTBBS 9 .
    EchoArea ALTBBSAD D:\RENEGADE\ECHOMAIL\ALTBBSAD -p1:2320/303 1:2320/303.99 ;EchoSpec ALTBBSAD 9 .
    EchoArea ALTBBSDO D:\RENEGADE\ECHOMAIL\ALTBBSDO -p1:2320/303 1:2320/303.99 ;EchoSpec ALTBBSDO 9 .
    EchoArea ALTBUGS D:\RENEGADE\ECHOMAIL\ALTBUGS -p1:2320/303 1:2320/303.99 ;EchoSpec ALTBUGS 9 .
    EchoArea ALTGAME D:\RENEGADE\ECHOMAIL\ALTGAME -p1:2320/303 1:2320/303.99 ;EchoSpec ALTGAME 9 .
    EchoArea ALTGAMES D:\RENEGADE\ECHOMAIL\ALTGAMES -p1:2320/303 1:2320/303.99 ;EchoSpec ALTGAMES 9 .
    EchoArea ALTGAWAR D:\RENEGADE\ECHOMAIL\ALTGAWAR -p1:2320/303 1:2320/303.99 ;EchoSpec ALTGAWAR 9 .
    EchoArea ALTWAREZ D:\RENEGADE\ECHOMAIL\ALTWAREZ -p1:2320/303 1:2320/303.99 ;EchoSpec ALTWAREZ 9 .
    EchoArea AQUARIUM D:\RENEGADE\ECHOMAIL\AQUARIUM -p1:2320/303 1:261/38 ;EchoSpec AQUARIUM 1 f
    EchoArea BBS_CARNIVAL D:\RENEGADE\ECHOMAIL\BBS_CARN -p1:2320/303 1:261/38 ;EchoSpec BBS_CARNIVAL 1 f
    EchoArea BRE_65 D:\RENEGADE\ECHOMAIL\BRE_65 -p1:2320/303 1:273/416
    ;EchoSpec BRE_65 9 .
    EchoArea B_4SALE D:\RENEGADE\ECHOMAIL\B_4SALE -p7:77/0 7:77/0.2 300 302 160/0 250/0 450/0
    ;EchoSpec B_4SALE 6 b For Sale
    EchoArea B_BBSADS D:\RENEGADE\ECHOMAIL\B_BBSADS -p7:77/0 7:77/0.2 300 302 160/0 250/0 450/0
    ;EchoSpec B_BBSADS 6 b BBS Ads ANSI ect
    EchoArea B_FILEAN D:\RENEGADE\ECHOMAIL\B_FILEAN -p7:77/0 7:77/302 300 160/0 250/0 450/0
    ;EchoSpec B_FILEAN 6 b File Announcements EchoArea B_GAMES D:\RENEGADE\ECHOMAIL\B_GAMES -p7:77/0 7:77/0.2 300 302 160/0 250/0 450/0
    ;EchoSpec B_GAMES 6 b InterBBS Games Discussion
    EchoArea B_GEN D:\RENEGADE\ECHOMAIL\B_GEN -p7:77/0 7:77/0.2 300 302 160/0 250/0 450/0
    ;EchoSpec B_GEN 6 b General Chat Echo
    EchoArea B_NET D:\RENEGADE\ECHOMAIL\B_NET -p7:77/0 7:77/0.2 300 302 160/0 250/0 450/0
    ;EchoSpec B_NET 6 b Message Network Ads
    EchoArea B_SPORTS D:\RENEGADE\ECHOMAIL\B_SPORTS -p7:77/0 7:77/302 300 160/0 250/0 450/0
    ;EchoSpec B_SPORTS 6 b Sports Talk
    EchoArea B_SYSOP D:\RENEGADE\ECHOMAIL\B_SYSOP -p7:77/0 7:77/302 300 160/0 250/0 450/0
    ;EchoSpec B_SYSOP 6 b Net Sysop & Co-Sysop only (Real Names)
    EchoArea B_TECH D:\RENEGADE\ECHOMAIL\B_TECH -p7:77/0 7:77/302 300 160/0 250/0 450/0
    ;EchoSpec B_TECH 6 b Technical Discussion
    EchoArea DND D:\RENEGADE\ECHOMAIL\DND -p1:2320/303 1:261/38
    ;EchoSpec DND 1 f
    EchoArea DOORGAMES D:\RENEGADE\ECHOMAIL\DOORGAME -p1:2320/303 1:261/38 ;EchoSpec DOORGAMES 1 f BBS Doorgames and discussions
    EchoArea DOORWARE D:\RENEGADE\ECHOMAIL\DOORWARE -p1:2320/303 1:261/38 ;EchoSpec DOORWARE 1 f
    EchoArea DOVE-NET.HARDWARE/SOFTWARE_HELP D:\RENEGADE\ECHOMAIL\DOVE-NET -p1:2320/303 1:261/38
    ;EchoSpec DOVE-NET.HARDWARE/SOFTWARE_HELP 1 f
    EchoArea HIGHLANDER D:\RENEGADE\ECHOMAIL\HIGHLAND -p1:2320/303 1:261/38 ;EchoSpec HIGHLANDER 1 f Highlander TV/Movies/Books
    EchoArea JN_ANSI D:\RENEGADE\ECHOMAIL\JN_ANSI -p510:326/1 510:5124/0 441/1 510/41
    ;EchoSpec JN_ANSI 4 j JustaXnet Ansi Art Conference
    EchoArea JN_ASK_DESI D:\RENEGADE\ECHOMAIL\JN_ASK_D -p510:326/1 510:5124/0 441/1 510/41
    ;EchoSpec JN_ASK_DESI 4 j JustaXnet Ask Desi
    EchoArea JN_BBSAD D:\RENEGADE\ECHOMAIL\JN_BBSAD -p510:326/1 510:326/1.1 441/1 510/41 5124/0
    ;EchoSpec JN_BBSAD 4 j JustaXnet BBS Adds Echo (ansi or mono)
    EchoArea JN_BBSHELP D:\RENEGADE\ECHOMAIL\JN_BBSHE -p510:326/1 510:5124/0 441/1 510/41
    ;EchoSpec JN_BBSHELP 4 j JustaXnet BBS Help & Discussions Echo
    EchoArea JN_BOOKS D:\RENEGADE\ECHOMAIL\JN_BOOKS -p510:326/1 510:5124/0 441/1 510/41
    ;EchoSpec JN_BOOKS 4 j JustaXnet Books Discussions
    EchoArea JN_CHAT D:\RENEGADE\ECHOMAIL\JN_CHAT -p510:326/1 510:326/1.1 441/1 510/41 5124/0
    ;EchoSpec JN_CHAT 4 j JustaXnet General Chatter echo
    EchoArea JN_COMM D:\RENEGADE\ECHOMAIL\JN_COMM -p510:326/1 510:5124/0 441/1 510/41
    ;EchoSpec JN_COMM 4 j JustaXnet Communications Echo
    EchoArea JN_COMPUTER D:\RENEGADE\ECHOMAIL\JN_COMPU -p510:326/1 510:5124/0 441/1 510/41
    ;EchoSpec JN_COMPUTER 4 j JustaXnet Computer Discussions
    EchoArea JN_COOK D:\RENEGADE\ECHOMAIL\JN_COOK -p510:326/1 510:5124/0 441/1 510/41
    ;EchoSpec JN_COOK 4 j JustaXnet Cooking Echo
    EchoArea JN_CRAFTS_N_HOBBY D:\RENEGADE\ECHOMAIL\JN_CRAFT -p510:326/1 510:5124/0 441/1 510/41
    ;EchoSpec JN_CRAFTS_N_HOBBY 4 j JustaXnet Crafts and Hobbies Echo
    EchoArea JN_CURRENT D:\RENEGADE\ECHOMAIL\JN_CURRE -p510:326/1 510:5124/0 441/1 510/41
    ;EchoSpec JN_CURRENT 4 j JustaXnet Current Events Discussions
    EchoArea JN_EARTH D:\RENEGADE\ECHOMAIL\JN_EARTH -p510:326/1 510:5124/0 441/1 510/41
    ;EchoSpec JN_EARTH 4 j
    EchoArea JN_ECP D:\RENEGADE\ECHOMAIL\JN_ECP -p510:326/1 510:326/1.1 441/1 510/41 5124/0
    ;EchoSpec JN_ECP 4 j
    EchoArea JN_ENTERTAIN D:\RENEGADE\ECHOMAIL\JN_ENTER -p510:326/1 510:5124/0 441/1 510/41
    ;EchoSpec JN_ENTERTAIN 4 j

    The GameMaster BBS Home of Marty's Mercantile, an IGM for L.O.R.D.
    Also home of Bluenet message network. Telnet to any of the following.
    gamemasterbbs.darktech.org gamemaster.dtdns.net gamemasterbbs.no-ip.com gamemaster.bbs.us Lots of InterBBS games available as well as local ones.

    --- Renegade v08-30.5 DOS/EXP
    * Origin: The GameMaster BBS | gamemasterbbs.darktech.org (1:2320/303)
  • From Peter Knapper@3:772/1.10 to Marty Blankenship on Tuesday, January 10, 2006 19:32:16
    Hi Marty,

    Please post your Squish.Cfg file, because something else is not right somewhere.

    Here is my squish.cfg file with all the commented lines took out.

    Go it thanks. Can you also please post your Route.Cfg file?

    Have you inspected the created packets complete with messages? What addressing shows in the messages? In particular, do the messages appear in a packet with the correct "othernet" address? What about the addressing on a created packet, does it show the correct FROM and TO addressing?

    Cheers...........pk.


    --- Maximus/2 3.01
    * Origin: Another Good Point About OS/2 (3:772/1.10)
  • From Marty Blankenship@1:2320/303 to Peter Knapper on Tuesday, January 10, 2006 17:50:56
    |11┌─|03─[|15Quoting |12Peter Knapper |15to |12Marty Blankenship |03]──∙·· |11└─|03─[|15Taken from: |13[Fido] Squish Help |03]──»

    Go it thanks. Can you also please post your Route.Cfg file?

    Here is my route.cfg file.

    Send Direct NoArc 1:2320/303.99
    Send Direct NoArc 92:606/1
    Send Direct NoArc 92:606/2
    Send Direct NoArc 7:77/0.2
    Send Direct NoArc 510:326/1.1
    Send Direct NoArc 510:326/1.2
    Send Direct 25:25/2
    Send Hold 50:120/0
    Send Normal 50:120/All
    Send Hold 92:810/0
    Send Direct 92:810/0
    Send Direct 510:5124/0
    Send Direct 510:501/5
    Route 50:120/* 50:120/0
    Send Normal 92:330/101
    Send Normal World


    Have you inspected the created packets complete with messages? What address shows in the messages? In particular, do the messages appear in a packet wi the correct "othernet" address? What about the addressing on a created pack does it show the correct FROM and TO addressing?

    I loaded up inspecta and everything inside the archived bundle has the correct othernets addresses.

    The GameMaster BBS Home of Marty's Mercantile, an IGM for L.O.R.D.
    Also home of Bluenet message network. Telnet to any of the following.
    gamemasterbbs.darktech.org gamemaster.dtdns.net gamemasterbbs.no-ip.com gamemaster.bbs.us Lots of InterBBS games available as well as local ones.

    --- Renegade v08-30.5 DOS/EXP
    * Origin: The GameMaster BBS | gamemasterbbs.darktech.org (1:2320/303)
  • From Peter Knapper@3:772/1 to Marty Blankenship on Wednesday, January 11, 2006 16:55:48
    Hi Marty,

    I think I am confused...

    I loaded up inspecta and everything inside the archived
    bundle has the correct othernets addresses.

    So this suggests that the messages, packets AND mail bundles (the ZIPed Mail packets) all contain addressing that is correct. If so then I am not sure what your problem is, because in your first message you said -

    ===================================================
    How can I get squish to use one of my aka's instead of my main fidonet
    address when packing mail bundles? ===================================================

    Which suggests that the PACKING of mail is not using the correct address..
    And you also say -

    ===================================================
    When my system packs mail to another network other than fidonet, it always uses my fidonet address on the archived mail bundles instead of the network address aka for that network. ===================================================

    Whic appears to conflict with the second part above. So where is the RIGHT address being used, and where is the WRONG one being used???

    Also note that when you use NOARC - =============================================
    Send Direct NoArc 1:2320/303.99
    Send Direct NoArc 92:606/1
    Send Direct NoArc 92:606/2
    Send Direct NoArc 7:77/0.2
    =============================================
    squish only creates mail packets, it does not ZIP them, so the addressing within the packet is used for the AMA transfer.

    Cheers..........pk.


    --- Maximus/2 3.01
    * Origin: === Maxie BBS. Ak, NZ +64 9 444-0989 === (3:772/1)
  • From Marty Blankenship@1:2320/303 to Peter Knapper on Wednesday, January 11, 2006 16:32:49
    |11┌─|03─[|15Quoting |12Peter Knapper |15to |12Marty Blankenship |03]──∙·· |11└─|03─[|15Taken from: |13[Fido] Squish Help |03]──»

    So this suggests that the messages, packets AND mail bundles (the ZIPed Mai packets) all contain addressing that is correct. If so then I am not sure w your problem is, because in your first message you said -

    Ok let me explain it this way.

    all the *.pkt files inside the mail bundle has all the correct addressing. The mail bundle itself (*.su0 *.mo0 etc.) is useing my fidonet address instead of the aka's that are on the *.pkt files. I hope that explains it a little better.

    Whic appears to conflict with the second part above. So where is the RIGHT address being used, and where is the WRONG one being used???

    The right address being used are on the *.pkt files, the wrong address being used are on the *.su0 *.mo0 etc. files.

    squish only creates mail packets, it does not ZIP them, so the addressing within the packet is used for the AMA transfer.

    Mail packets are zipped if you have zip as your default packer in your compress.cfg that squish uses to archive mail bundles.

    The GameMaster BBS Home of Marty's Mercantile, an IGM for L.O.R.D.
    Also home of Bluenet message network. Telnet to any of the following.
    gamemasterbbs.darktech.org gamemaster.dtdns.net gamemasterbbs.no-ip.com gamemaster.bbs.us Lots of InterBBS games available as well as local ones.

    --- Renegade v08-30.5 DOS/EXP
    * Origin: The GameMaster BBS | gamemasterbbs.darktech.org (1:2320/303)
  • From Peter Knapper@3:772/1 to Marty Blankenship on Thursday, January 12, 2006 23:42:42
    Hi Marty,

    Ok let me explain it this way.

    all the *.pkt files inside the mail bundle has all the
    correct addressing. The
    mail bundle itself (*.su0 *.mo0 etc.) is useing my
    fidonet address instead of
    the aka's that are on the *.pkt files. I hope that explains it a little better.

    Well it sort of does, but it doesn't help.......;-) A Mail bundle is just a ZIP
    file with a name specific to the NEXT HOP node as far as Routing is concerned, but even then it can be kludged depending on the relationship of YOUR node to the target Node.

    One thing I can think of causing this is where you are packing Mail for an other net address, but your system does not have an address within that Othernet for YOUR system. In this case you need to ensure SQUISH.CFG contains and address for YOUR node within that other net, and that then matches up with the NETWORK addressing of a target node.

    Are you able to provide some actual examples of file names used for these othernet addresses?


    The right address being used are on the *.pkt files,
    the wrong address being
    used are on the *.su0 *.mo0 etc. files.

    So what happens to the created Mail bundles, where do they actually end up and how (IE via what routing) do they get there?


    Mail packets are zipped if you have zip as your default packer in your compress.cfg that squish uses to archive mail bundles.

    I note that your ROUTE.CFG had NOCOMP for several othernet addresses, what happens to the mail for those addresses, as they should not be compressed...

    I have never used an AMA Mailer in my 15+ years of Fidonet, so I have never had
    to think about what should be happening in these situations........;-)

    Cheers............pk.


    --- Maximus/2 3.01
    * Origin: === Maxie BBS. Ak, NZ +64 9 444-0989 === (3:772/1)
  • From Marty Blankenship@1:2320/303 to Peter Knapper on Thursday, January 12, 2006 16:30:02
    |11┌─|03─[|15Quoting |12Peter Knapper |15to |12Marty Blankenship |03]──∙·· |11└─|03─[|15Taken from: |13[Fido] Squish Help |03]──»

    One thing I can think of causing this is where you are packing Mail for an other net address, but your system does not have an address within that Othernet for YOUR system. In this case you need to ensure SQUISH.CFG contai and address for YOUR node within that other net, and that then matches up w the NETWORK addressing of a target node.

    I have an address in every network that I send mail to. Squish.cfg contains all of my network address for the other nets.

    Are you able to provide some actual examples of file names used for these othernet addresses?

    07120106.th1
    073000ca.th0

    I note that your ROUTE.CFG had NOCOMP for several othernet addresses, what happens to the mail for those addresses, as they should not be compressed..

    They all get compressed as I have a line in my squish.cfg default packer
    ZIP. They also get sent out to the correct places they are suppose to go to.

    The GameMaster BBS Home of Marty's Mercantile, an IGM for L.O.R.D.
    Also home of Bluenet message network. Telnet to any of the following.
    gamemasterbbs.darktech.org gamemaster.dtdns.net gamemasterbbs.no-ip.com gamemaster.bbs.us Lots of InterBBS games available as well as local ones.

    --- Renegade v08-30.5 DOS/EXP
    * Origin: The GameMaster BBS | gamemasterbbs.darktech.org (1:2320/303)
  • From Peter Knapper@3:772/1.10 to Marty Blankenship on Friday, January 13, 2006 20:41:46
    Hi Marty,

    Are you able to provide some actual examples of
    file names used for these othernet addresses?

    07120106.th1
    073000ca.th0

    Ummmm... Some relationship between the filenames and the EXPECTED addresses would have been useful. However I now think that is not not relevant.

    I just twigged that what is happening for you, also happens for BSO processing,
    PROVIDED the user stuffs up the ROUTE.CFG file.......;-)

    Your problem is simple, you are confusing Squish because it re-orders the statements in the ROUTER.CFG file due to the FLAVOURS you are mixing together.

    **** CHANGE is your friend! ***

    One of my ROUTER.CFG Rules is that for any particular SCHEDULE, I ALWAYS process mail for a flavour of HOLD for ALL nodes first... THEN I use the CHANGE
    verb to set the final FLAVOUR I need for each resultant output file.

    So try ordering your file as follows -

    1. First, all "SEND HOLD ..." statements.
    2. Then, all "ROUTE HOLD ddd xxx yyy zzz ..." statements.
    3. Replace your "SEND WORD" entry, (that is really stuffing
    everything up), and replace it with "ROUTE HOLD WORLD ...".
    This line is your catchall.
    5. Lastly, use "CHANGE ..." lines to send things using the
    FLAVOUR you want.

    Here is a sample schedule that I used some time ago. I use the DEFINE statement
    to group nodes, its like a macro expansion - ===================================================
    ;
    SEND HOLD NOARC NOCOMPS
    SEND HOLD MYBOARDS FAKENET 4DPOINTS
    SEND HOLD IPNODES
    ROUTE HOLD Z3CR
    ROUTE HOLD 3:772/100 N772C
    ROUTE HOLD 3:772/1.10 3:30185/10
    ROUTE HOLD BBBOARDS
    ROUTE HOLD NWSTAR
    ; This catches all unsent traffic.
    CHANGE NORMAL HOLD All
    ; Lastly CHANGE things to whatever you want.
    ;
    ====================================================
    The mail sending event just changes the flavour of the packets.

    So the bottm line is to ensure the ORDER of events is logical and correct, you MUST not mix flavours WITHIN the same schedule. Process to ONE flavour (preferably HOLD), then CHANGE the resultant to whatever you want.

    Cheers..........pk.

    --- Maximus/2 3.01
    * Origin: Another Good Point About OS/2 (3:772/1.10)
  • From Marty Blankenship@1:2320/303 to Peter Knapper on Sunday, January 15, 2006 15:03:12
    |11┌─|03─[|15Quoting |12Peter Knapper |15to |12Marty Blankenship |03]──∙·· |11└─|03─[|15Taken from: |13[Fido] Squish Help |03]──»

    Your problem is simple, you are confusing Squish because it re-orders the statements in the ROUTER.CFG file due to the FLAVOURS you are mixing togeth

    So try ordering your file as follows -

    I'll try the changes you suggested and see what happens. I edited my route.cfg file to something like this to make it more simpler.


    send hold world
    route hold world
    change normal hold all

    The GameMaster BBS Home of Marty's Mercantile, an IGM for L.O.R.D.
    Also home of Bluenet message network. Telnet to any of the following.
    gamemasterbbs.darktech.org gamemaster.dtdns.net gamemasterbbs.no-ip.com gamemaster.bbs.us Lots of InterBBS games available as well as local ones.

    --- Renegade v08-30.5 DOS/EXP
    * Origin: The GameMaster BBS | gamemasterbbs.darktech.org (1:2320/303)