• msg test

    From Kevin Klement@1:342/77 to All on Wednesday, August 19, 2009 18:01:22
    Hi All

    Could I get a reply..

    Just deleted all the old wood (fido areas) from my BBS, and this is just a test
    fom my board. :)

    Kev

    --- Maximus 3.01
    * Origin: -=-= Calgary Organization CDN (403) 242-3221 (1:342/77)
  • From Mike Tripp@1:382/61 to Kevin Klement on Wednesday, August 19, 2009 19:08:34
    Hello Kevin!

    19 Aug 09 18:01, Kevin Klement wrote to All:

    Just deleted all the old wood (fido areas) from my BBS, and this is
    just a test fom my board. :)

    Welcome back from Deadwood.

    .\\ike

    --- GoldED/2 2.50+
    * Origin: -=( The TechnoDrome )=- Austin,TX 512-327-8598 33.6k (1:382/61)
  • From Kevin Klement@1:342/77 to Mike Tripp on Wednesday, August 19, 2009 18:40:05
    Hi Mike,

    Wednesday August 19 2009 19:08, Mike Tripp wrote to Kevin Klement:

    Welcome back from Deadwood.

    <smile>

    I used your instructions with SEAL and wrote a batch file to SEAL DROP E.

    Everything went good, used echofix.exe to fix Maximus, I might have missed a few but I'll kill them ... I'll get'them easy!

    Kevin
    klement@gypsy-designs.com

    --- Squish/386 v1.11
    * Origin: Gypsy BBS -- Gypsy Designs CDN (403) 242-3221 (1:342/77)
  • From Mike Tripp@1:382/61 to Kevin Klement on Thursday, August 20, 2009 12:24:42
    Hello Kevin!

    19 Aug 09 18:40, Kevin Klement wrote to Mike Tripp:

    I used your instructions with SEAL and wrote a batch file to SEAL DROP
    E.

    A snap, ain't it?

    Everything went good, used echofix.exe to fix Maximus, I might
    have missed a few but I'll kill them ... I'll get'them easy!

    I do that with SEAL also (MSGCTL/FILECTL).

    Had to do a bit of echo cleanup here recently myself. I got in the habit of using SEAL PAUSE to stop echoes for downed nodes, so it would be easy to RESUME
    if they came back up. I accidently re-issued a PAUSEd node number that hadn't been used in several years to a new node, and SEAL wanted to RESUME all of the prior address-holder's areas. SEAL's memory was certainly better than mine...<g>

    During the manual cleanup after my own brain-fart, I decided to trim any echoes
    that had less than 200 msgs total and none in the past year. Surprisingly, there were 40-50 that met that criteria out of less than 300 total subscribed locally or passthrough.

    .\\ike

    --- GoldED 2.50+
    * Origin: -=( The TechnoDrome )=- Austin,TX 512-327-8598 33.6k (1:382/61)
  • From Kevin Klement@1:342/77 to Mike Tripp on Tuesday, August 25, 2009 13:48:22
    Hi Mike,

    Thursday August 20 2009 12:24, Mike Tripp wrote to Kevin Klement:

    I do that with SEAL also (MSGCTL/FILECTL).

    Yep.

    Had to do a bit of echo cleanup here recently myself. I got
    in the habit of using SEAL PAUSE to stop echoes for downed
    nodes, so it would be easy to RESUME if they came back up.

    But they never did come back to Fidonet eh. Bummer!

    none in the past year. Surprisingly, there were 40-50 that
    met that criteria out of less than 300 total subscribed
    locally or passthrough.

    Ya the backbone is quite a bit smaller, I also noticed the latest backbone.na isn't the same as what my uplinks feeding me. My uplink is feeding me areas /not/ listed on the latest backbone.na


    Kevin
    klement@gypsy-designs.com

    --- Squish/386 v1.11
    * Origin: Gypsy BBS -- Gypsy Designs CDN (403) 242-3221 (1:342/77)
  • From Mike Tripp@1:382/61 to Kevin Klement on Tuesday, August 25, 2009 23:08:16
    Hello Kevin!

    25 Aug 09 13:48, Kevin Klement wrote to Mike Tripp:

    Had to do a bit of echo cleanup here recently myself. I got
    in the habit of using SEAL PAUSE to stop echoes for downed
    nodes, so it would be easy to RESUME if they came back up.

    But they never did come back to Fidonet eh. Bummer!

    I've had it do the job it's supposed to more often than not...some just down during a drive crash or an OS switchover. A few have moved or become regional independents, etc. But enough years passed, that I got around to reassigning an old unused number to a new node and SEAL had a couple of hundred echoes it wanted to reactivate and start forwarding that direction again.<g>

    Ya the backbone is quite a bit smaller, I also noticed the latest backbone.na isn't the same as what my uplinks feeding me. My uplink is feeding me areas /not/ listed on the latest backbone.na

    Seems like it went for a few years without being regularly hatched, so most folks just started keeping private versions based on whatever was really happening with traffic on their systems (or not). Now that updates are showing
    up again, I'm not even sure if I'm still pointed to it.

    .\\ike

    --- GoldED/2 2.50+
    * Origin: -=( The TechnoDrome )=- Austin,TX 512-327-8598 33.6k (1:382/61)
  • From Kevin Klement@1:342/77 to Mike Tripp on Monday, September 07, 2009 18:08:29
    Hi Mike,

    Tuesday August 25 2009 23:08, Mike Tripp wrote to Kevin Klement:

    systems (or not). Now that updates are showing up again,
    I'm not even sure if I'm still pointed to it.

    I turned "on" seal's auto add, there is quite a few echo areas being added/setup, I was surprised .. thats fer sure.

    Kevin
    klement@gypsy-designs.com

    --- Squish/386 v1.11
    * Origin: Gypsy BBS -- Gypsy Designs CDN (403) 242-3221 (1:342/77)
  • From Mike Tripp@1:382/61 to Kevin Klement on Monday, September 07, 2009 20:43:12
    Hello Kevin!

    07 Sep 09 18:08, Kevin Klement wrote to Mike Tripp:

    I turned "on" seal's auto add, there is quite a few echo areas being added/setup, I was surprised .. thats fer sure.

    From the .NA or on the side? Might be time for me to take a look again.

    .\\ike

    --- GoldED/2 2.50+
    * Origin: -=( The TechnoDrome )=- Austin,TX 512-327-8598 33.6k (1:382/61)
  • From Kevin Klement@1:342/77 to Mike Tripp on Tuesday, September 08, 2009 16:38:03
    Hi Mike,

    Monday September 07 2009 20:43, Mike Tripp wrote to Kevin Klement:

    From the .NA or on the side? Might be time for me to take a
    look again.

    I just request stuff from the fidonet backbone, in my query from my uplink there is gated newsgroups and no-english echoes too.


    Kevin
    klement@gypsy-designs.com

    --- Squish/386 v1.11
    * Origin: Gypsy BBS -- Gypsy Designs CDN (403) 242-3221 (1:342/77)
  • From Kevin Klement@1:342/77 to Mike Tripp on Wednesday, September 09, 2009 18:30:06
    Hi Mike,

    Monday September 07 2009 20:43, Mike Tripp wrote to Kevin Klement:

    From the .NA or on the side? Might be time for me to take a
    look again.

    This is what seal deleted according to the latest backbone.na

    It's a prety long list .....

    !CHINESE Echo
    12_STEPS Echo
    3613TEST Echo
    4DOS Echo
    4DOS_TC Echo
    80XXX Echo
    AAGENE Echo
    AAOS Echo
    ABLENEWS Echo
    ABORTION Echo
    ACCT_TAX Echo
    ACTUP Echo
    AD&D Echo
    ADAM Echo
    ADAMS_RIB Echo
    ADAPTEK Echo
    ADEPTSOFT Echo
    ADHD Echo
    ADINF.SUPPORT Echo
    ADLIB Echo
    ADOPTEES Echo
    ADSL Echo
    ADS_ANNOUNCE Echo
    AI Echo
    AIDS-HIV Echo
    AIDS.DATA Echo
    AIDS.DIALOGUE Echo
    AIDS.DRUGS Echo
    AIDS.FR Echo
    AIDS.LAW Echo
    AIDS.NL Echo
    AIDS.SPIRITUAL Echo
    AIDS.SYSOP Echo
    AIDS.WOMEN Echo
    AIDS/ARC Echo
    AIRGUN Echo
    ALABAMA Echo
    ALLFIX_HELP Echo
    ALTMED Echo
    AMIGAGAMES Echo
    AMIGA_CDROM Echo
    AMIGA_DESKTOP Echo
    AMIGA_FILEFIND Echo
    AMIGA_INT Echo
    AMIGA_LC Echo
    AMIGA_MUSIC Echo
    AMIGA_NF Echo
    AMIGA_OS&EM Echo
    AMIGA_PD Echo
    AMIGA_PROG Echo
    AMIGA_SALE Echo
    AMIGA_SYSOP Echo
    AMIGA_VIDEO Echo
    AMPUTEE Echo
    AMY_COMMS Echo
    AMY_POINT Echo
    AMY_TECH Echo
    ANEWS Echo
    ANIMAL_DOC Echo
    ANIMAL_RIGHTS Echo
    ANIME Echo
    ANIMED Echo
    ANTI.HUMAN Echo
    ANTIQUES Echo
    ANXIETY Echo
    APNEA Echo
    APOGEE Echo
    AQUARIUM Echo
    ARCADE Echo
    ARCHERY Echo
    ARCSOFT Echo
    AREXX Echo
    ARJ Echo
    ARKANSAS Echo
    ASCII_ART Echo
    ASKACOP Echo
    ASKACOP2 Echo
    ASK_A_NURSE Echo
    ASL Echo
    ASP Echo
    AT&T Echo
    ATARI Echo
    ATHEISM Echo
    ATM Echo
    AUDIO Echo
    AUTOMOBILE_RACING Echo
    AUTORACE Echo
    AVICULTURE Echo
    AVP.SUPPORT Echo
    A_CAD Echo
    A_THEIST Echo
    BABY.MAIL.PVT Echo
    BAHAI Echo
    BARBIE Echo
    BARDROOM Echo
    BASIC7 Echo
    BASSGTR Echo
    BATTERED Echo
    BB-CARDS Echo
    BBSCON Echo
    BBSLIST_CORD Echo
    BC.SYSOP Echo
    BEAD-JEWEL Echo
    BEEMAIL Echo
    BFDS_MAIL Echo
    BGFAX Echo
    BIG_SMOKE Echo
    BIKE-N-RIDER Echo
    BIKENET Echo
    BINK.PLUS Echo
    BIOMED Echo
    BIRDING Echo
    BIRTHMOTHERS Echo
    BLINDTLK Echo
    BLINKTALK Echo
    BNU Echo
    BOATING Echo
    BOCA_MODEMS Echo
    BOCHAROFF.MUST.DIE Echo
    BODYWORK Echo
    BONG Echo
    BRAKE'S.MAILER.SUPPORT Echo
    BRIT_CAR Echo
    BROADCAST Echo
    BUSINESS Echo
    CABLE_MODEMS Echo
    CAD-CAM Echo
    CANACHAT Echo
    CANADA Echo
    CANPOL Echo
    CAN_FREECHAT Echo
    CAN_MILITARY Echo
    CAN_SYSLAW Echo
    CAP_NAT Echo
    CARCINOMA Echo
    CARDIAC Echo
    CARE_GIVER Echo
    CAROLINA_GEN Echo
    CASTLE.THERRON Echo
    CBM-128 Echo
    CBM-GEOS Echo
    CB_RADIO Echo
    CDOOR Echo
    CDRECORD Echo
    CDROM Echo
    CD_ECHO Echo
    CELLULAR Echo
    CFL Echo
    CFS Echo
    CHAMELEON Echo
    CHANNELS Echo
    CHESS_TOURNEY Echo
    CHICORA_GEN Echo
    CHILD_ABUSE Echo
    CHILD_ABUSE_ISSUES Echo
    CHIPSMAG Echo
    CHRISTIANOS Echo
    CHURCH&STATE Echo
    CIVIL_WAR Echo
    CIVLIB Echo
    CKA3KA.CTPAHHOE.MECTO Echo
    CLARION Echo
    CLASSICAL Echo
    CLASSIFIEDS Echo
    CLIPPER Echo
    CMX4SALE Echo
    CNET Echo
    CNET_BBS Echo
    COCO Echo
    COINS Echo
    COLLECTABLES Echo
    COLLEGE Echo
    COLLEGE_SINGLES Echo
    COMICS Echo
    COMP.ARCHIVES.MSDOS.ANNOUNCE Echo
    COMP.OS.LINUX.ANNOUNCE Echo
    COMPRESS Echo
    COMPUSALE Echo
    CONCORD Echo
    CONFED_HERITAGE Echo
    CONSCIOUSNESS Echo
    CONSTITUTIONAL Echo
    CONSULTING Echo
    CONSUMER_REPORT Echo
    CONTROV Echo
    CORELDRAW Echo
    COUNTRY Echo
    CPALSY Echo
    CPMTECH Echo
    CRAFTING Echo
    CRAFTING-FORSALE Echo
    CRAFTING-SYSOPS Echo
    CREDIT Echo
    CROSS_STITCH Echo
    CTEPBA.CLUB Echo
    CTPAHHOE.MECTO Echo
    CULT_WATCH Echo
    CUSS Echo
    C_ABILITY Echo
    C_ADVOCAT Echo
    C_ECHO Echo
    C_PLUSPLUS Echo
    DADS Echo
    DAIRY_FARM Echo
    DANGER.ATOM Echo
    DARKSTAR Echo
    DBASE Echo
    DB_NOVICE Echo
    DEADHEAD Echo
    DELPHI Echo
    DENTISTRY Echo
    DESQVIEW Echo
    DEUTSCH Echo
    DIABETES Echo
    DIETING Echo
    DISASTERS Echo
    DISNEY Echo
    DLG_INFO Echo
    DLG_SUPPORT Echo
    DND Echo
    DOG_FANCIERS Echo
    DOMINO Echo
    DR.ESPERANTO Echo
    DRAKE Echo
    DR_DEBUG Echo
    DVNET Echo
    EARTH2 Echo
    ECHODOR Echo
    ECHOMAC Echo
    ECHO_REQ Echo
    ECOLOGY Echo
    ECONET Echo
    ECPROG Echo
    ECSTASY Echo
    EC_DEV Echo
    ELECTRONICS Echo
    EMBEDDED Echo
    EMS Echo
    ENET.SYSOP Echo
    ENTREPRENEUR Echo
    ENVIRO Echo
    EP-GENERAL Echo
    EP-PUBLISH Echo
    EQUUS Echo
    ESPERANTO.RUS Echo
    ESPRIT Echo
    EVIL.MP3 Echo
    EVOLUTION Echo
    FAITH Echo
    FALCON_CBCS Echo
    FANTASY_SPORTS Echo
    FAR.DEVELOPMENT Echo
    FARMING Echo
    FCC Echo
    FDECHO Echo
    FEMINISM Echo
    FENCE_POST Echo
    FERNWOS2 Echo
    FIBROM Echo
    FIDOBBS Echo
    FIDONET.HISTORY Echo
    FIDOPCB Echo
    FIDOTIMES Echo
    FILE_MOVERS Echo
    FILE_REQ Echo
    FILK Echo
    FIREARMS Echo
    FIRENET Echo
    FISHING Echo
    FITNESS Echo
    FLAME Echo
    FLAT_TAX Echo
    FLSINGLES Echo
    FLYING Echo
    FMS Echo
    FOR-SALE Echo
    FOXPRO Echo
    FRANCAIS Echo
    FREEMAIL Echo
    FREEMASON Echo
    FREE_SPEECH Echo
    FRONTDOOR_APX Echo
    FS Echo
    FUTURE4FIDO Echo
    F_KNIGHT Echo
    GAMING Echo
    GAYLINK Echo
    GAYNEWS Echo
    GAYTEEN Echo
    GAY_FAITH Echo
    GAY_PRIDE Echo
    GECHO_HELP Echo
    GENDATA Echo
    GENDER Echo
    GENEALOGY Echo
    GENEALOGY.CDN Echo
    GENEALOGY.EUR Echo
    GENREPLY Echo
    GENSOFT Echo
    GENSYSOP Echo
    GEOWORKS Echo
    GOD.AND.GOV Echo
    GOLDED.BETA Echo
    GOP_POLITICS Echo
    GOURMET Echo
    GO_PROD_SUP Echo
    GRAND_ROUNDS Echo
    GRAPEVINE Echo
    GRAPHICS Echo
    GREEN.029 Echo
    GUITAR.SONGS Echo
    GUITAR.SONGS.TALK Echo
    GUNS Echo
    HAM-SALE Echo
    HAM_REQ Echo
    HARLEY_DAVIDSON Echo
    HAYES Echo
    HCNSYS Echo
    HDCONF Echo
    HDSALE Echo
    HELP_MANKIND Echo
    HIGHLANDER Echo
    HIPPY.TALKS Echo
    HISTORY Echo
    HIVNET.GER Echo
    HOBBIES Echo
    HOCKEY Echo
    HOLISTIC Echo
    HOLY_BIBLE Echo
    HOLY_BIBLE_FCS Echo
    HOLY_BIBLE_II Echo
    HOLY_WARS Echo
    HOME-N-GRDN Echo
    HOMEPOWR Echo
    HOMESCHL Echo
    HOME_AUTOMATION Echo
    HOME_OFFICE Echo
    HOME_REPAIR Echo
    HOME_SCHOOL Echo
    HOTROD Echo
    HP Echo
    HST-SALE Echo
    HS_MODEMS Echo
    HTMLEDIT Echo
    HUMOR Echo
    HYPERWARE Echo
    I95 Echo
    ICGAL Echo
    ICOM Echo
    IEEE Echo
    IMAIL_HELP Echo
    IMUS Echo
    INDIAN_AFFAIRS Echo
    INK Echo
    INTELLIGENT_GROWING Echo
    INTEL_MODEMS Echo
    INTERCOOK Echo
    INTERFAITH Echo
    INTERUSER Echo
    INVEST Echo
    IN_COUNTRY Echo
    IRONOX Echo
    ISDN Echo
    ITALIANO.GEN Echo
    I_UFO Echo
    JAMMAIL Echo
    JAMNNTPD Echo
    JAZZ Echo
    JDEBP Echo
    JET.PHRASES Echo
    JEWISHGEN Echo
    JFK_ASSN Echo
    JOBS Echo
    JOBS-NOW Echo
    JOURNAL Echo
    JUDAICA Echo
    JUNO Echo
    K9COPS Echo
    KAG Echo
    KAKTUS.TALK Echo
    KATTY_KORNER Echo
    KIDS Echo
    KLINGON Echo
    KLINGON_RPG Echo
    KOMBUCHA Echo
    KWACHI.PRILETELI Echo
    LAN Echo
    LAND Echo
    LANNET Echo
    LANTASTI Echo
    LASERPUB Echo
    LAW Echo
    LAW_&_ORDER Echo
    LAW_DISORDER Echo
    LAW_TECH Echo
    LAYDER.FREEDOM Echo
    LEGAL_LAW Echo
    LIBRARY Echo
    LIMBAUGH Echo
    LINUX-USER Echo
    LINUXHELP Echo
    LISTS.GENTOO-USER Echo
    LOCAL_MUSIC Echo
    LORA Echo
    LORE Echo
    LOTAKIDS Echo
    LOTSMAN.LOCAL Echo
    LOTUS Echo
    LOW-FAT Echo
    LUNATICS Echo
    MAC4SALE Echo
    MACDEV Echo
    MACDTP Echo
    MACFILES Echo
    MACHW Echo
    MACHYPE Echo
    MACSW Echo
    MACSYSOP Echo
    MACWOOF Echo
    MAC_COMM Echo
    MAC_DEV Echo
    MAC_FORSALE Echo
    MAC_GAMES Echo
    MAC_HW Echo
    MAC_OS Echo
    MAC_SW Echo
    MAC_TELEFINDER Echo
    MADNESS.ART Echo
    MAGICK Echo
    MAINDOOR Echo
    MATH Echo
    MAXDEV Echo
    MCC_SUPPORT Echo
    MCMAIL Echo
    MCSOFT Echo
    MDOOR_HELP Echo
    MEADOW Echo
    MEAL-MASTER Echo
    MECCA Echo
    MED_RAYS Echo
    MEET_AFT Echo
    MELEE Echo
    MENS_ISSUES Echo
    MENTAL_HEALTH Echo
    META_UFO Echo
    MEXICAN_LINK Echo
    MFILEPMSUP Echo
    MICROCOM Echo
    MIDI-NET Echo
    MIDI-PROGRAMMING Echo
    MIDRANGE Echo
    MILHISTORY Echo
    MILITARY_PEOPLE Echo
    MINDO.ANNOUNCE.ANTISEX Echo
    MISSING Echo
    MISSING_CHILD Echo
    MISTRESS.Z1 Echo
    ML-BASEBALL Echo
    MLM Echo
    MM1_TECH Echo
    MOD1000 Echo
    MODEMS Echo
    MODERATOR Echo
    MODR8TR Echo
    MODULA-2 Echo
    MORMON Echo
    MORMONISM Echo
    MOSCOW_OKLAHOMA Echo
    MOTORCYCLE Echo
    MOVIES Echo
    MPS Echo
    MSGED_ECHO Echo
    MST3K Echo
    MSTU.TALKS Echo
    MS_EXCEL Echo
    MS_WORD Echo
    MTASK Echo
    MTG_TRADE Echo
    MTG_WOC Echo
    MULT-SCLEROSIS Echo
    MUPPETS Echo
    MUSE Echo
    MUSICIAN Echo
    MUSICIAN'S_SERVICES Echo
    MUSICSYN Echo
    MUSIC_COMP_101 Echo
    MW_GENE Echo
    MYSTERY Echo
    MYTHOLOGY Echo
    M_P_D Echo
    NASCAR Echo
    NATURIST Echo
    NAVY Echo
    NBA_ECHO Echo
    NETSCAPE Echo
    NETXPRES Echo
    NET_DEV Echo
    NEURAL_NET Echo
    NEUROLOGY Echo
    NEWOPUS Echo
    NEWSCHAT Echo
    NEWTON Echo
    NEW_AGE_ECHO Echo
    NEW_SYSOP Echo
    NEW_WAVE_MUSIC Echo
    NFB-TALK Echo
    NHL Echo
    NICE.SOURCES Echo
    NIGHT_SHIFT Echo
    NIGHT_SHIFT_ART-BELL Echo
    NIGHT_SHIFT_BASH_POLI Echo
    NIGHT_SHIFT_CP Echo
    NIGHT_SHIFT_DEBATE Echo
    NON-FICTION Echo
    NONSPORT_CARDS Echo
    NOPIRACY Echo
    NORML Echo
    NOVELL Echo
    NURSES_NETWORK Echo
    NUTRITION Echo
    NU_SUPPORT Echo
    OASIS Echo
    OBEC.FILTERED Echo
    OCCULT_CHAT Echo
    OFF_TOPIC Echo
    OJ_SIMPSON Echo
    OKILLERS Echo
    OLDCARS Echo
    OLDTRUCK Echo
    OLD_ENGINE Echo
    OMEGA_SOFT Echo
    ON_LINE_GAMES Echo
    OOII Echo
    OPENDOORS Echo
    OPEN_BIBLE Echo
    OPTIMIST Echo
    OPTOMETRY Echo
    OS-DEBATE Echo
    OS2GAMES Echo
    OS2HW Echo
    OS2LAN Echo
    OS2PROG Echo
    OS9 Echo
    P5DRAFT Echo
    PACKET Echo
    PARADOX Echo
    PARALEGAL Echo
    PARENTS Echo
    PARROTS Echo
    PATCHES Echo
    PCBNET Echo
    PCSITES Echo
    PCSTATS Echo
    PCTOOLS Echo
    PCUG Echo
    PCWRITE Echo
    PC_ADDICT Echo
    PC_ANNOUNCE Echo
    PC_CONSULT Echo
    PDNECHO Echo
    PEHECCAHC Echo
    PEPSI Echo
    PERL Echo
    PHARMACY Echo
    PHIL Echo
    PHONES Echo
    PHYSICS Echo
    PIERS Echo
    PINK Echo
    PLANET_CONNECT Echo
    PLATINUM_XPRESS Echo
    PLEASE Echo
    POETRY_WORKSHOP Echo
    POGS Echo
    POLISH Echo
    PORTAL Echo
    POST_POLIO Echo
    POWERPC Echo
    POWER_BAS Echo
    PPI_MODEMS Echo
    PRISM Echo
    PROBLEM_CHILD Echo
    PROBOARD Echo
    PROWRITE Echo
    PRO_AUDIO Echo
    PRO_LIFE Echo
    PRO_VIDEO Echo
    PS_CHAT Echo
    PUBLIC_PSYCH Echo
    PYRO Echo
    P_NEWS Echo
    QEDIT Echo
    QFRONT Echo
    QMODEM_USER Echo
    QM_ECHO Echo
    QUANTUMLEAP Echo
    QUICKBBS Echo
    QUICKEN Echo
    QUICKPRO Echo
    QUOTES_2 Echo
    QUR'AN Echo
    RACING_SIMS Echo
    RADIO_HOBBY-ALL Echo
    RADIST_SYS Echo
    RAILFAN Echo
    RAILFANS Echo
    RAINBOW Echo
    RAR Echo
    RAR.SUPPORT Echo
    RARE_CONDITION Echo
    RBBS-PC Echo
    RBC Echo
    RCM Echo
    RCP Echo
    RC_MODEL Echo
    REAL_FREE_SPEECH Echo
    RECFRP Echo
    RECIPES Echo
    RECOVERY Echo
    RED_CROSS Echo
    REEF_KEEPING Echo
    REENACT Echo
    RELOAD Echo
    RIBBS Echo
    RIGHTS Echo
    RIGHTS_RONGS Echo
    ROBOTECH Echo
    ROBO_LINK Echo
    ROCKWELL.MODEM Echo
    RTKBA Echo
    RTSOFT Echo
    RTTY Echo
    RUS.FLORA Echo
    RUS.PETS.EXOTIC Echo
    RUSH_FAN Echo
    RUSSIAN.Z1 Echo
    RYBBSOP Echo
    SAILING Echo
    SAR Echo
    SB-E/N/L Echo
    SB-NASA_NEWS Echo
    SB-NASA_TECH Echo
    SB-QUESTIONS Echo
    SB-SAT_TRACK Echo
    SB-SOLAR_RPT Echo
    SB-SYSOPS Echo
    SB-WORLD_NWS Echo
    SCI&TECH Echo
    SCN-CHEAT Echo
    SCOUTER Echo
    SCOUTING Echo
    SCS.METALSPORT Echo
    SCUBA Echo
    SDN_CONF Echo
    SEARCHLIGHT Echo
    SEEDSWAP Echo
    SEW_&_QUILT Echo
    SE_GENEALOGY Echo
    SF Echo
    SF&ANIME_RPG Echo
    SFFAN Echo
    SHALOM Echo
    SHAREWRE Echo
    SHORTWAVE Echo
    SIERRAN Echo
    SILENTTALK Echo
    SIM Echo
    SIMPSONS Echo
    SINGLES_REGISTER Echo
    SINGLE_MOMS Echo
    SINGLE_PARENT Echo
    SIP_AA Echo
    SIP_AABUS Echo
    SIP_ACA Echo
    SIP_ALANON Echo
    SIP_INCEST Echo
    SIP_MPD Echo
    SIP_NA Echo
    SIP_SAA Echo
    SIP_SSAS Echo
    SIP_SURVIVOR Echo
    SKEPTIC Echo
    SMOKERS_RIGHTS Echo
    SOAPS Echo
    SOFTWARE_MARKETING Echo
    SPACE Echo
    SPANISH.GEN Echo
    SPB.FREUD Echo
    SPB.JOB.TALK Echo
    SPB.ZENIT Echo
    SPINAL_INJURY Echo
    SPIRITUAL Echo
    SPITFIRE_CHAT Echo
    SPORT-FISHING.WEST Echo
    SPORTS Echo
    SQDSV Echo
    SRA Echo
    SRGAMES Echo
    STAMPS Echo
    STARTREK Echo
    STARTREK_CCG Echo
    STARTREK_RPG Echo
    STARWARS Echo
    STDSN Echo
    STEP_PARENT Echo
    STOCK_MARKET Echo
    STOP_SMOKING Echo
    STRESS_MGMT Echo
    STS Echo
    STTNG Echo
    STUDIO_101 Echo
    ST_PROG Echo
    SUPERBBS Echo
    SUPRAFAX Echo
    SUST_AG Echo
    SV_FOOD Echo
    SYS4SALE Echo
    SYSOPS Echo
    SYSOP_ISSUES Echo
    SYSTEM7 Echo
    SY_ADMIN Echo
    S_KING Echo
    T-MAIL.CHAINIK Echo
    T-MAIL.NT.RUS Echo
    T-MAIL.RU Echo
    T-MAIL.SUPPORT Echo
    TABBY Echo
    TABEPHA Echo
    TABLATURE Echo
    TAG Echo
    TAGMULTI Echo
    TAG_OS2 Echo
    TAG_TALK Echo
    TALKS.ASM Echo
    TAM.HAC.HET Echo
    TBB4SALE Echo
    TBBS Echo
    TCM Echo
    TECH Echo
    TECH-CHAT Echo
    TEEN Echo
    TELEMATE Echo
    TELIX Echo
    TEL_TECH Echo
    TENNIS Echo
    TENN_GEN Echo
    TEXAS Echo
    THDPRO Echo
    THE-BIBLE Echo
    THEIST_WATCH Echo
    THERAPY_SERVICE_DOG Echo
    THI_CVA Echo
    THUNDERBYTE Echo
    TI-ECHO Echo
    TOONS Echo
    TOTT Echo
    TOTT_SYSOP Echo
    TOURETTES Echo
    TPWTECH Echo
    TRAINS Echo
    TRAKS_AND_DEMOS Echo
    TRANSAMIGA Echo
    TRAPDOOR Echo
    TRAVEL Echo
    TREKTECH Echo
    TREK_CREATIVE Echo
    TREK_FAN_ORG Echo
    TREK_HUMOR_FILK Echo
    TREK_VOYAGER Echo
    TRIBBS Echo
    TRIBBS_SUPPORT Echo
    TRS-MOD134 Echo
    TURNCOAT_USA Echo
    TV Echo
    TVRO Echo
    TWINS Echo
    UA.PODERVYANSKIY Echo
    UFGATE Echo
    UFO Echo
    ULTRABETA Echo
    ULTRASUP Echo
    USA_EURLINK Echo
    USR_MODEMS Echo
    USR_SPORTSTERS Echo
    UWSA Echo
    VAX Echo
    VBBS Echo
    VEGAN Echo
    VFALSAC Echo
    VFIDO Echo
    VGA.PLANETS Echo
    VHEAL Echo
    VIA_SOFT Echo
    VIDEO Echo
    VID_GAME Echo
    VIETNAM.ORIENTO Echo
    VIETNAM_VETS Echo
    VIN_MAISON Echo
    VIRUS_NFO Echo
    VOCAL Echo
    WC!_CHAT Echo
    WCCODE Echo
    WC_TECH Echo
    WELFARE Echo
    WGW Echo
    WHAT'S_HOT! Echo
    WHIRLYBIRDS Echo
    WHITEHOUSE_TALK Echo
    WHOLLY_BIBLE Echo
    WIFI Echo
    WILDCAT Echo
    WILDRNSS Echo
    WIN.SYSOP Echo
    WIN2000 Echo
    WIN32 Echo
    WINCOMM Echo
    WINDOWS-NT Echo
    WINDOWS-NT_BBS Echo
    WINDOWS.PROG Echo
    WINNTUSER Echo
    WIN_4_WRKGRPS Echo
    WIN_ACCESS Echo
    WORDSTAR Echo
    WORLDTLK Echo
    WP-CRAFT Echo
    WP-TOOLS Echo
    WPERFECT Echo
    WRESTLING Echo
    WRESTLING_CHAT Echo
    WRITING Echo
    WUNDERMENT Echo
    WWB.SYSOP.DRUNK Echo
    X-FILES Echo
    X00_USER Echo
    XPEHOBO.MHE Echo
    XPOINT Echo
    XPRESS_SUPPORT Echo
    XPRESS_SYSOP Echo
    YAHOONEWS Echo
    YOUNG_ADULT Echo
    Z1BACKBONE Echo
    Z1_ECHOMAIL Echo
    Z1_POLITICAL Echo
    Z1_ROUTING Echo
    ZCC-PUBLIC Echo
    ZEC Echo
    ZMODEM Echo
    ZMS.HUMOR Echo
    ZOOM Echo
    ZYMURGY Echo
    ZYXEL Echo
    {COMMO} Echo


    Kevin
    klement@gypsy-designs.com

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  • From Marc Lewis@1:396/45 to Kevin Klement on Thursday, September 17, 2009 12:01:07
    Hello Kevin.

    <On 09Sep2009 18:30 Kevin Klement (1:342/77) wrote a message to Mike Tripp regarding Re: msg test >

    From the .NA or on the side? Might be time for me to take a
    look again.

    This is what seal deleted according to the latest backbone.na

    It's a prety long list .....

    !CHINESE Echo
    12_STEPS Echo
    3613TEST Echo
    4DOS Echo
    4DOS_TC Echo

    First: Looking at the backbone.na that I have from 09/08/09 quite a few of the echoes that your SEAL deleted are listed there. (??)

    Second: What did you tell SEAL via command switches to have it do this kind of "cleanup"? Or was it something in the SEAL.ini that was set to enable this kind of action?

    I used to have all this noted down, but some of that was lost with a drive failure; what I had on backup was all the vital stuff but little documentation.

    Thanks in advance!

    Best regards,
    Marc

    ... Statistics: A group of numbers looking for an argument.
    --- timEd/2 1.10.y2k+
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  • From Kevin Klement@1:342/77 to Marc Lewis on Wednesday, September 23, 2009 15:39:10
    Hi Marc,

    Thursday September 17 2009 12:01, Marc Lewis wrote to Kevin Klement:

    First: Looking at the backbone.na that I have from 09/08/09
    quite a few of the echoes that your SEAL deleted are listed
    there. (??)

    Hmmmm.. Dam!

    I used a old backbone.na file. Owell seal is set to "auto add" areas. Not like I have a ton of users anyhow. :(

    Second: What did you tell SEAL via command switches to have
    it do this kind of "cleanup"? Or was it something in the
    SEAL.ini that was set to enable this kind of action?

    Batch file.


    SEAL386 DROP E !CHINESE
    SEAL386 DROP E 1072.COMPNEWS
    SEAL386 DROP E 12_STEPS
    SEAL386 DROP E 3613TEST
    SEAL386 DROP E 4DOS
    SEAL386 DROP E 4DOS_TC
    SEAL386 DROP E 80XXX
    SEAL386 DROP E AAGENE
    SEAL386 DROP E AAOS
    SEAL386 DROP E ABLENEWS

    etc....

    Then it made a file called "seal.del" I found it it seal's directory.

    Kevin
    klement@gypsy-designs.com

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  • From Marc Lewis@1:396/45 to Kevin Klement on Wednesday, September 23, 2009 19:03:03
    Hello Kevin.

    <On 23Sep2009 15:39 Kevin Klement (1:342/77) wrote a message to Marc Lewis regarding Re: msg test >

    First: Looking at the backbone.na that I have from 09/08/09
    quite a few of the echoes that your SEAL deleted are listed
    there. (??)

    Hmmmm.. Dam!

    I used a old backbone.na file. Owell seal is set to "auto add"
    areas.

    Mine is too. I only wish Robert would have had time to make an OS/2 version of
    his trusty program... But the 386 version runs just fine in a VDM with "slowdown.com" in front of it.

    Not like I have a ton of users anyhow. :(

    Neither me, but there are still a few stubborn souls that value the service.

    Second: What did you tell SEAL via command switches to have
    it do this kind of "cleanup"? Or was it something in the
    SEAL.ini that was set to enable this kind of action?

    Batch file.
    SEAL386 DROP E !CHINESE

    I thought so. Thanks for the reminder. :)

    Best regards,
    Marc

    ... No man goes before his time...unless the boss leaves early.(John Greve)
    --- timEd/2 1.10.y2k+
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  • From Richard Webb@1:116/901 to Kevin Klement on Wednesday, September 23, 2009 23:32:36
    HI KEvin,

    On Wed 2037-Sep-23 15:39, Kevin Klement (1:342/77) wrote to Marc Lewis:

    I used a old backbone.na file. Owell seal is set to "auto add"
    areas. Not like I have a ton of users anyhow. :(

    YOu could use backbone.dst and create the batch file
    automagically using HORst's listmod, i.e.

    type backbone.dst | listmod SEAL386 DROP E $1 >>
    dumparea.bat


    Lose the line wrap of course.
    SO, every time Ross sends out a backbone.dst you could do
    this automatically and only nuke the areas contained in it.


    Regards,
    Richard
    --- timEd 1.10.y2k+
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  • From Mike Tripp@1:382/61 to Richard Webb on Thursday, September 24, 2009 09:24:48
    Hello Richard!

    23 Sep 09 23:32, Richard Webb wrote to Kevin Klement:

    YOu could use backbone.dst and create the batch file
    automagically using HORst's listmod, i.e.

    Have seen you tout LISTMOD quite a bit. Sounds like a decent alternative to my
    routine of inserting specific characters in prepend and append locations using the editor or commandline search-n-replace and then replacing the characters with the appropriate strings.

    SO, every time Ross sends out a backbone.dst you could do
    this automatically and only nuke the areas contained in it.

    My ritual here is a bit more elaborate also. I prefer to evaluate the history in the area first before deciding whether to retain it as an archive in spite of it's backbone status, or dump it. So I usually

    - make a backup copy of SQUISH.CFG if I'm expecting a small set of changes or SEAL LIST to make a backup .NA of what's already locally configured if I'm expecting a bunch

    - SEAL DESCRIBE against the current .NA with the -f (forced) switch

    - examine SQUISH.CFG to see which areas lost their descriptions due to not being found in current .NA

    - recover descriptions for keepers using backup SQUISH.CFG and editor or backup
    .NA with SEAL DESCRIBE (not forced).

    - SEAL DELETE the ones to dump.

    I =try= to remember to delete my uplink from the link list for the areas that are dropped from the .NA but archived by me during the description recovery step also, so that it looks like a local echo rather than a backbone echo. All
    the folks running in "auto-create" mode is what keeps the dead areas from truly
    dying after they're dropped from the .NA.

    .\\ike

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  • From Richard Webb@1:116/901 to Mike Tripp on Thursday, September 24, 2009 18:48:06
    HI MIke,

    On Thu 2037-Sep-24 09:24, Mike Tripp (1:382/61) wrote to Richard Webb:

    YOu could use backbone.dst and create the batch file
    automagically using HORst's listmod, i.e.

    Have seen you tout LISTMOD quite a bit. Sounds like a decent
    alternative to my routine of inserting specific characters in
    prepend and append locations using the editor or commandline search-n-replace and then replacing the characters with the
    appropriate strings.

    YEp, have been known to do that one toobut listmod is easy.
    IN our example of backbone.dst I'm wanting the first word
    until white space encountered on a line exported.
    so HORst's little tool works great. I use it for a ton of
    such jobs around here. see my description of what I do with loggings of vessels at sea in batpower for others <g>.

    SO, every time Ross sends out a backbone.dst you could do
    this automatically and only nuke the areas contained in it.

    My ritual here is a bit more elaborate also. I prefer to evaluate
    the history in the area first before deciding whether to retain it
    as an archive in spite of it's backbone status, or dump it. So I
    usually

    - make a backup copy of SQUISH.CFG if I'm expecting a small set of
    changes or SEAL LIST to make a backup .NA of what's already locally configured if I'm expecting a bunch

    - SEAL DESCRIBE against the current .NA with the -f (forced) switch

    - examine SQUISH.CFG to see which areas lost their descriptions due
    to not being found in current .NA

    That works too. I usually have my system post a message
    to me with any matches between backbone.dst and my configuration, and not run the prepared batch until after I've looked at
    this. I'm running sqafix instead of seal too, but it works
    well for that as well. I'm not carrying the entire bone
    though as some folks do, so I add a step in here which first searches for a match in my areas files, and sometimes a
    match isn't quite, so we review first before we let the
    automation forge ahead.

    IF you're wanting to keep them as an archive that
    makes a difference.

    I"ve set my automation of this process to let me tell it to
    proceed even if I"m operating from a point away from home.
    I'm not a real computer guy but an audio tech, so I like to
    keep it simple stupid <g>.


    Regards,
    Richard
    --- timEd 1.10.y2k+
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