Hello All,

What do you folks use to compress and decompress zip files today?

One of my links is having problems with my inbound mail archives being renamed to bad because pkunzip is running out of memory.

I suggested that infozip's zip and unzip might work better on his 32 bit windows setup but I am not sure if that is true or not since I use linux. I use infozip's zip and unzip here.

I am also not sure of the command line for compress.cfg for infozip so if you could post your command line and comments on the above it would be appreciated.

Ttyl :-),
Al


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Hello Alan!

05 Aug 2018 21:28, Alan Ianson wrote to All:

What do you folks use to compress and decompress zip files today?

zip, unzip

One of my links is having problems with my inbound mail archives being renamed to bad because pkunzip is running out of memory.

its buggy then

I suggested that infozip's zip and unzip might work better on his 32
bit windows setup but I am not sure if that is true or not since I use linux. I use infozip's zip and unzip here.

----- zip begins -----
[I] app-arch/zip
Available versions: 3.0-r3 {bzip2 crypt natspec unicode}
Installed versions: 3.0-r3(12:19:07 05/26/18)(bzip2 crypt unicode -natspec)
Homepage: http://www.info-zip.org/
Description: Info ZIP (encryption support)

----- zip ends -----

----- unzip begins -----
[I] app-arch/unzip
Available versions: 6.0_p20 6.0_p21-r2 {bzip2 natspec unicode}
Installed versions: 6.0_p21-r2(18:14:17 04/10/18)(bzip2 unicode -natspec)
Homepage: http://www.info-zip.org/
Description: unzipper for pkzip-compressed files

----- unzip ends -----

what else does fail ?

I am also not sure of the command line for compress.cfg for infozip so
if you could post your command line and comments on the above it would be appreciated.

in my huskyconf

----- config begins -----

Pack lha lha -ad $a $f
Pack zip zip -9 -j -q $a $f

DefArcmailSize 1024
MinDiskFreeSpace 10

packNetMailOnScan off

Unpack "arc x $a $p'*.*' $f" 0 1a
Unpack "lha -eifw=$p $a $f" 2 2d6c68
Unpack "unrar e -y $a $p $f \* > /dev/null" 0 52617221
Unpack "unzip -joLqq $a -d $p $f" 0 504b0304

----- config ends -----

Regards Benny

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Re: zip and unzip
By: Benny Pedersen to Alan Ianson on Mon Aug 06 2018 02:33 pm

What do you folks use to compress and decompress zip files today?

zip, unzip

Yep, that works well for me.

One of my links is having problems with my inbound mail archives
being renamed to bad because pkunzip is running out of memory.

its buggy then

Benny, step back from that precipice. You are going to get hurt!

Old software may or may not work as expected on a newer OS.. :)

----- config begins -----

Pack lha lha -ad $a $f
Pack zip zip -9 -j -q $a $f

DefArcmailSize 1024
MinDiskFreeSpace 10

packNetMailOnScan off

Unpack "arc x $a $p'*.*' $f" 0 1a
Unpack "lha -eifw=$p $a $f" 2 2d6c68
Unpack "unrar e -y $a $p $f \* > /dev/null" 0 52617221
Unpack "unzip -joLqq $a -d $p $f" 0 504b0304

----- config ends -----

Odd, I don't see your zoo command!

Ttyl :-),
Al


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Hello Alan!

06 Aug 2018 10:13, Alan Ianson wrote to Benny Pedersen:

Yep, that works well for me.

+1

Benny, step back from that precipice. You are going to get hurt!

+1

Old software may or may not work as expected on a newer OS.. :)

bah

Odd, I don't see your zoo command!

i have no problem with people not using it


Regards Benny

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On 2018 Aug 05 21:28:50, you wrote to All:

What do you folks use to compress and decompress zip files today?

as far as FTN mail bundles go, nothing... we do raw PKTs here...

One of my links is having problems with my inbound mail archives being renamed to bad because pkunzip is running out of memory.

why can't you just set the archiver to NONE for them and send them raw PKTs?

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Hi mark -- on Aug 06 2018 at 16:26, you wrote:

why can't you just set the archiver to NONE for them and send them
raw PKTs?

We could do that, mark - but it's hiding the problem rather than solving it!!


Cheers... Dallas

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Re: zip and unzip
By: mark lewis to Alan Ianson on Mon Aug 06 2018 04:26 pm

why can't you just set the archiver to NONE for them and send them raw PKTs?

Yep, that's an option if nodes would like to do it that way.

Ttyl :-),
Al


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Hello Dallas!

06 Aug 2018 13:40, Dallas Hinton wrote to mark lewis:

why can't you just set the archiver to NONE for them and send them
raw PKTs?

We could do that, mark - but it's hiding the problem rather than
solving it!!

no it really is that simple, ask the sender to not pack if he cant use updated software

it does not matter if using windows xp or worse windows 95, with dual OS/2 installed :)

/me hiddes


Regards Benny

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Re: zip and unzip
By: Benny Pedersen to Alan Ianson on Mon Aug 06 2018 08:30 pm

Odd, I don't see your zoo command!

i have no problem with people not using it

+1

I have it defined here but I don't think anyone has ever used that option.

Ttyl :-),
Al


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Hi Benny -- on Aug 06 2018 at 21:30, you wrote:

no it really is that simple, ask the sender to not pack if he cant
use updated software

It's an option, of course - and given the size (small) of today's packets, not much implication for bandwidth. It just goes against the grain! :-)

it does not matter if using windows xp or worse windows 95, with
dual OS/2 installed :)

:-)


Cheers... Dallas

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On 2018 Aug 06 13:40:08, you wrote to me:

why can't you just set the archiver to NONE for them and send them
raw PKTs?

We could do that, mark - but it's hiding the problem rather than
solving it!!

maybe... i see it as making the problem non-existent by not even invoking it -=B-)

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On 2018 Aug 06 16:30:52, you wrote to Benny Pedersen:

no it really is that simple, ask the sender to not pack if he cant
use updated software

It's an option, of course - and given the size (small) of today's
packets, not much implication for bandwidth. It just goes against the grain! :-)

i just can't justify the CPU wastage... especially when looking at stats like this...


Echomail Statistics for the period of

01 Aug 18, 00:20:07 - 05 Aug 18, 23:48:09


Inbound packets : 50602


we're only five(!) days into the month and there's already been 50000+ PKTs dropped off here :shock: they come in every few minutes... i've seen some systems dropping off packets here within a minute of their last connection... sometimes a connection will drop off two or three PKTs at once and then do it again a few seconds later with new PKTs but hey, folks want near-real-time conversations so...

so anyway, consider if that was 50000 zipped mail bundles... the time to zip and unzip them is much better used for something else... add to that that some mailers can compress data on the fly when transmitting it just like web servers
do... i just... i don't know, man... mail bundles were created to solve a problem FTNs had a long long time ago... that problem was transmission time... a problem that is non-existant (for the most part) these days... it takes two steps right out of the processing loops and reducing the number of steps needed
is generally a GoodThing<tm> ;)



just for the heck of it, here's last months inbound stat...


Echomail Statistics for the period of

01 Jul 18, 00:17:54 - 31 Jul 18, 23:48:17


Inbound packets : 274214




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Hi mark -- on Aug 06 2018 at 21:21, you wrote:

i just can't justify the CPU wastage... especially when looking at
stats like this...

[...]

Inbound packets : 274214

You make a good argument, mark!!




Cheers... Dallas

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On 2018 Aug 06 20:43:48, you wrote to me:

i just can't justify the CPU wastage... especially when looking at
stats like this...

[...]

Inbound packets : 274214

You make a good argument, mark!!

i try... i will freely admit, though, that i was quite surprised by the stats even though i look them over every time i decide to play fidonet ;) hehahaha

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