I desire to hope BinkP server is added to PXW.

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Hello Matt,

It is unlikely to happen, at present I am using Internet Rex.

I recently installed VModem and it ties in with PXW. I am looking for Sysops using WINS and PXW to fine tune it.

Let me know if your interested and I will send my configs, Netserial has a 30 day trial period.

Terry Roati - 3:640/1231


On Jul 21, 2019 12:15pm, Matt Munson wrote to All:

I desire to hope BinkP server is added to PXW.

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I desire to hope BinkP server is added to PXW.

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Yeah, don't think we will see that feature in PX/WINS for a while,
sadly, what with the way things are going.

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It is unlikely to happen, at present I am using Internet Rex.

Same here.

I recently installed VModem and it ties in with PXW. I am looking for Sysops using WINS and PXW to fine tune it.

You mean NetSerial. VMODEM is the same thing, but is a part of SIO for
OS/2.

Let me know if your interested and I will send my configs, Netserial has a 3 day trial period.

Yeah, I bought NetSerial way back when it was still Com/IP. I have 10
nodes of PX/WINS listening on my NetSerial ports on port 3456 here.
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Hi Robert,

I see you have been up and down quite a bit at your end, all fixed?

Yes, Netserial.

What version are you using?

Why port 3456 and not the Fidonet Standard of 3141?

Terry Roati - 3:640/1321

On Jul 29, 2019 08:16pm, Robert Wolfe wrote to Terry Roati:

It is unlikely to happen, at present I am using Internet Rex.

Same here.

I recently installed VModem and it ties in with PXW. I am looking for
Sysops
using WINS and PXW to fine tune it.

You mean NetSerial. VMODEM is the same thing, but is a part of SIO for OS/2.

Let me know if your interested and I will send my configs, Netserial has ->> a 3
day trial period.

Yeah, I bought NetSerial way back when it was still Com/IP. I have 10 nodes of PX/WINS listening on my NetSerial ports on port 3456 here.
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On 2019 Jul 30 14:29:56, you wrote to Robert Wolfe:

Why port 3456 and not the Fidonet Standard of 3141?

3141 is not a ""fidonet standard"" port... it is the i'net standard port for the VMODEM protocol, though...

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Hi Mark,

Thanks for the technical correction.

The question is the same though, why use port 3456 instead of 3141 since using port 3141 allows the Sysop to add VDM flag to the nodelist without adding the port number.

Terry Roati - 3:640/1321

On Jul 31, 2019 08:03pm, mark lewis wrote to TERRY ROATI:

On 2019 Jul 30 14:29:56, you wrote to Robert Wolfe:

Why port 3456 and not the Fidonet Standard of 3141?

3141 is not a ""fidonet standard"" port... it is the i'net standard
port for the VMODEM protocol, though...

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On 2019 Aug 01 16:40:54, you wrote to me:

Thanks for the technical correction.

you're welcome...

The question is the same though, why use port 3456 instead of 3141

maybe more than one machine behind that IP?

since using port 3141 allows the Sysop to add VDM flag to the nodelist without adding the port number.

the nodelist flag for vmodem is IVM ;) those old ones that were not prefixed by "I" are obsolete and no longer used in the distributed nodelist... some abandoned software still in use may still require them, though... it should also be noted that ITN should not be used unless there is a mailer on telnet...

http://ftsc.org/docs/fts-5001.006

Default
Flag port Description
---------------------------

IBN 24554 Binkp (FTS-1026 - FTS-1030)
IFC 60179 RAW ifcico (FTS-1024)
IFT 21 FTP (RFC-0959); Note there is currently no widely
accepted authentication scheme for FTP transfers by
Fidonet mailers.
ITN 23 Telnet connection using FTS-1 or any other protocol
designed for classic POTS and modem.
IVM 3141 Vmodem connection using FTS-1 or any other protocol
designed for classic POTS and modem.
IP none Mostly used during the introduction of IP capable
systems to the nodelist. Denotes an unspecified
protocol. (Deprecated)


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Hi Robert,

I see you have been up and down quite a bit at your end, all fixed?

You have to remember, I am connected via hotel WiFi and a VPN service, so I will be down from time to time. Please bear with me.

Yes, Netserial.

What version are you using?

3.51

Why port 3456 and not the Fidonet Standard of 3141?

3143 is only if you are using SIO's VMODEM under OS/2.





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The question is the same though, why use port 3456 instead of 3141 since using
port 3141 allows the Sysop to add VDM flag to the nodelist without adding the ->port number.

3141 is only for OS/2 users runing SIO and its VMODEM.EXE driver for 8-bit VMODEM-TO-VMODEM communication.



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On Aug 04, 2019 11:07am, mark lewis wrote to TERRY ROATI:

Hello Mark,

So since I have PXW (Mailer / Tosser) connecting by Telnet using Netserial on port 3141, the IVM flag is correct for my system? Robert thought it was for
OS2 only.

Terry - 3:640/1321

them, though... it should also be noted that ITN should not be used
unless there is a mailer on telnet...

IVM 3141 Vmodem connection using FTS-1 or any other protocol
designed for classic POTS and modem.

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Hi Robert,

You have to remember, I am connected via hotel WiFi and a VPN service,
so I will be down from time to time. Please bear with me.

That makes life hard, main thing is connections are still fast even from Oz.

Terry - 3:640/1321

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On 2019 Aug 04 21:38:22, you wrote to Terry Roati:

3141 is only for OS/2 users runing SIO and its VMODEM.EXE driver for 8-bit VMODEM-TO-VMODEM communication.

small clarification/correction: 3141 is the IANA assigned port number for the vmodem protocol no matter what software implements the protocol or what OS it is used on... the vmodem protocol is a slightly modified form of the telnet protocol ;)

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You have to remember, I am connected via hotel WiFi and a VPN service, so I will be down from time to time. Please bear with me.

That makes life hard, main thing is connections are still fast even from Oz.

Thanks for the feedback. I am not on the BBS as much as I used to be or
would like to be. I try to log on every once in a while. Sad, because
the well has run dry for wcCODE ideas as well.

:(

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3141 is only for OS/2 users runing SIO and its VMODEM.EXE driver for 8- VMODEM-TO-VMODEM communication.

small clarification/correction: 3141 is the IANA assigned port number for th vmodem protocol no matter what software implements the protocol or what OS i is used on... the vmodem protocol is a slightly modified form of the telnet protocol ;)

Yeah, but I think SIO's VMODEM.EXE listens on that port by default for
8-bit VMODEM-to-VMODEM connections (using ATDT #<address) vs ATDT
<address) if memory serves me correctly.
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Guys,

I tried to call nodes listed with a IVM to test, I was not able to connect to any Zone 1 nodes because I beleive they are all down far as Vmodem goes, however the first Zone 2 node 2:2432/394 connected ok.

15:39:24 Polling 2:2432/394, ftn.owlserver.de
15:39:28 Try #1 Calling ftn.owlserver.de.....
15:39:29 Waiting for Modem Connection....
15:39:30 CONNECT 115200
15:39:32 Waking up Remote
15:39:40 Synchronizing Mailer Protocol
15:39:40 EMSI Session
15:39:40 Sending Your System Identification
15:39:42 Receiving Remote System Identification
15:39:42 Mailer : Xenia/2 Mailer V1.99.00/OpenSource
15:39:42 Address: 2:2432/300@fidonet, 212.8.192.42, Stephan Heitbrink
15:39:42 Options: {ZAP,ARC,XMA}
15:39:42 OWL-Server/13 - VModem/Telnet, Enger/Westf. FRG
15:39:42 Nothing to Send from 3:640/1321 to 2:2432/300
15:39:43 Waiting to receive...
15:39:45 Nothing Received
15:39:45 Normal Session Termination---------------------------------------

Terry

On Aug 06, 2019 04:59pm, Robert Wolfe wrote to Mark Lewis:

3141 is only for OS/2 users runing SIO and its VMODEM.EXE driver

for 8-

VMODEM-TO-VMODEM communication.

small clarification/correction: 3141 is the IANA assigned port number
for th
vmodem protocol no matter what software implements the protocol or what
OS i
is used on... the vmodem protocol is a slightly modified form of the
telnet
protocol ;)

Yeah, but I think SIO's VMODEM.EXE listens on that port by default for 8-bit VMODEM-to-VMODEM connections (using ATDT #<address) vs ATDT <address) if memory serves me correctly.
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Terry Roati wrote to Robert Wolfe <=-

Guys,

I tried to call nodes listed with a IVM to test, I was not able to
connect to any Zone 1 nodes because I beleive they are all down far as Vmodem goes, however the first Zone 2 node 2:2432/394 connected ok.

15:39:24 Polling 2:2432/394, ftn.owlserver.de
15:39:28 Try #1 Calling ftn.owlserver.de.....
15:39:29 Waiting for Modem Connection....
15:39:30 CONNECT 115200
15:39:32 Waking up Remote
15:39:40 Synchronizing Mailer Protocol
15:39:40 EMSI Session
15:39:40 Sending Your System Identification
15:39:42 Receiving Remote System Identification
15:39:42 Mailer : Xenia/2 Mailer V1.99.00/OpenSource
15:39:42 Address: 2:2432/300@fidonet, 212.8.192.42, Stephan Heitbrink 15:39:42 Options: {ZAP,ARC,XMA}
15:39:42 OWL-Server/13 - VModem/Telnet, Enger/Westf. FRG
15:39:42 Nothing to Send from 3:640/1321 to 2:2432/300
15:39:43 Waiting to receive...
15:39:45 Nothing Received
15:39:45 Normal Session
Termination---------------------------------------

Was this using standard port 23? If so, VMODEM.EXE under OS/2 and SIO
also listens on port 23.

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Hi Robert,

No, I used only port 3141 since any node with an IVM flag should be able to be contacted on the default port of 3141.

I had already added the IVM flag to my node address a couple of weeks back.

So for any new Wildcat / PXW sysops who want to join fidonet they can use Netserial configured as Vmodem to connect to other IVM nodes to get mail and files. Most sysops are put off as Internet Rex cannot be registered and give up.

So with Netserial still being supported and updated they now have a good option.

Any Wildcat / PXW sysops who want help with setting this up can email me at sysop@tfb-bbs.org.


On Aug 07, 2019 09:05pm, Robert Wolfe wrote to Terry Roati:

Was this using standard port 23? If so, VMODEM.EXE under OS/2 and SIO also listens on port 23.

Terry Roati - 3:640/1321 tfb-bbs.org

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On 2019 Aug 06 16:54:00, you wrote to me:

3141 is only for OS/2 users runing SIO and its VMODEM.EXE driver

for 8- -> RW> VMODEM-TO-VMODEM communication.

small clarification/correction: 3141 is the IANA assigned port number

for th -> vmodem protocol no matter what software implements the protocol or what OS i -> is used on... the vmodem protocol is a slightly modified form of the telnet -> protocol ;)

Yeah, but I think SIO's VMODEM.EXE listens on that port by default for 8-bit VMODEM-to-VMODEM connections (using ATDT #<address) vs ATDT <address) if memory serves me correctly.

no, IIRC, one can adjust this by editing their services file and setting the necessary port... i remember doing that years ago when i needed/wanted to run on a different port than the default...

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I desire to hope BinkP server is added to PXW.

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Yeah, don't think we will see that feature in PX/WINS for a while,
sadly, what with the way things are going.

He ties the node count to PX now so he could sell more node upgrades
with it. Right now im just going to get the 2 node upgrade pack for the
time being. If he added the server id add another 8 nodes. 12 is enough
for a hobbyist.

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He ties the node count to PX now so he could sell more node upgrades
with it. Right now im just going to get the 2 node upgrade pack for the time being. If he added the server id add another 8 nodes. 12 is enough
for a hobbyist.

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(1:123/140)

Ah ok. So you didn't get the 7.0 upgrade then.
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