Howdy!,

My HP a1430n XP SP3 pc has a AMD 3800+ Dual Core CPU and has been acting
very slow when starting up or when I start a program.

I've been thinking if I replaced the 250GB HDD with a 2TB HDD it might
speed up the pc's performance with more Free Space on the HDD.

The 250GB SATA HDD has 2 Partitions:

The C:\ Partition is NTFS and has 194GB Used with 30GB Free = 224GB Total

The D:\ Partition is FAT32 and has 8.06GB Used with 434MB Free = 8.48GB Total

The pc has 3GB DDR 400 RAM and uses a 8.9GB Pagefile.sys file.

The price difference of a 1TB to a 2TB HDD isn't very much, so that is
why I think the 2TB HDD is the better choice.

Some time ago I replaced the 160GB HDD in a Vista notebook with a 1TB HDD
so I want to give the XP computer a larger HDD now.

Would a 2TB HDD be the better idea over a 1TB HDD for my XP pc?

I want to keep the XP Operating System on it as I think the hardware in
it may not be good enough for any of the newer MS Operating Systems.

Also, iirc I think some of the WinTen "features" are being pushed to users
of Win7 pcs so I may not want to go to Win7 because of that.

I'm just stuck in the mud, so to speak.

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On 03-23-17 23:29, Ed Vance <=-
spoke to All about New HDD for XP pc <=-

My HP a1430n XP SP3 pc has a AMD 3800+ Dual Core CPU and has been
acting very slow when starting up or when I start a program.

I've been thinking if I replaced the 250GB HDD with a 2TB HDD it might speed up the pc's performance with more Free Space on the HDD.

More memory might also help speed things up. If you have access to
BestBuy web site, do a search on Seagate internal hard drives. They
have a 1Tb for $60 and 2Tb for $80. Both sound good.

Dale Shipp
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03-25-17 00:37 Dale Shipp wrote to Ed Vance about Re: New HDD for XP pc
Howdy! Dale,

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On 03-23-17 23:29, Ed Vance <=-
spoke to All about New HDD for XP pc <=-

My HP a1430n XP SP3 pc has a AMD 3800+ Dual Core CPU and has been
acting very slow when starting up or when I start a program.

I've been thinking if I replaced the 250GB HDD with a 2TB HDD it might speed up the pc's performance with more Free Space on the HDD.

More memory might also help speed things up. If you have access to BestBuy web site, do a search on Seagate internal hard drives. They
have a 1Tb for $60 and 2Tb for $80. Both sound good.

The pc had two 500MB sticks of RAM in it when I bought it, so I bought
two 1GB sticks to put in the other two Slots.

I couldn't see trashing the two 500MB DDR 400 sticks and buying four 1GB
sticks to fill all the slots, so I decided 3GB should be enough on a pc
with a CPU that run at 2 Mc/s.

The XP OS is 32-Bit and I was told here that the maximum RAM it could use
was 3.8GB iirc.

Is that still true?

The store I get my Technology products at has Seagate and WD HDDs about at
the same price BestBuy sells them.

My store sells a couple of other HDD Brands too, BestBuy probably also has those as well.

My store is close to home, BestBuy is in the next town where the Church I worship is at.
So Distance isn't a problem, I just prefer to buy at the store nearby.
The Staff tolerates Me.

Ages ago I remember reading a rant about Seagate hard drives so I never considered buying any of them.
I've only used Verbatim, WD and Toshiba drives for backing up the pc.
Has Seagate corrected whatever problem their drives were having in the past?

The 3TB Toshiba USB 3.0 drive failed during Warranty and they replaced it.

I thought to look at the Windows XP Task Manager to see what the
Performance Tab Settings are, and type them in for You (and Others)
to look at.

Totals:
Handles 25089
Threads 1068
Processe 68

Physical Memory (K):
Total 3078636
Available 1357836
System Cache 1257196

Commit Charge (K):
Total 2012100
Limit 12297968
Peak 2740488

Kernal Memory (K):
Total 114320
Paged 107716
Nonpaged 36596

Processes: 68 CPU Usage: 20% Commit Charge: 1915M/12009M


While I was typing the figures above I noticed that they changed often,
so they may not be "Mathematically Correct", but it's the best I could do.

Task Manager shows 9 Applications being used by 1 User.

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Ed Vance -> Dale Shipp wrote:

My HP a1430n XP SP3 pc has a AMD 3800+ Dual Core CPU and has been
acting very slow when starting up or when I start a program.

I couldn't see trashing the two 500MB DDR 400 sticks and buying four 1GB sticks to fill all the slots, so I decided 3GB should be enough on a pc with a CPU that run at 2 Mc/s.

The XP OS is 32-Bit and I was told here that the maximum RAM it could use was 3.8GB iirc.

Is that still true?

G'day Ed. I still settle for XP on a couple of computers here and have explored the ram upgrade options as you have. XP is indeed limited to about 3GB ram (I have seen people quoting estimates between 3.25 and 3.8) So, there is no point going beyond the 3gb that you have invested in.

I have also bumped up the ram in one specific HP model (it too just had 2x500mb
modules) but the mobo manual indicated that in order to maintain and activate the fast "Dual channel" processing speeds, the ram modules had to be in specific slots.

In my case the mobo supported up to 8gb but it only had XP 32-bit installed, so
no point going beyond 3gb. However, to maintain the dual-channel speeds, the modules had to be "balanced" across the dimm slots.

Originally, the 2x500mb modules were in slot 1 in each bank. That triggered the
proper dual channel mode. All I had to do was add each 1GB module right next to the 500mb module in the same bank to maintain the balance. The "banks" are often colour-coded to indicate their pairing. BUT, your mobo might have another
design.

I won't go into techy details about all that because your mobo manual could probably explain it with illustrations for your particular mobo.

Also, the pc will only operate as fast as the slowest supported module. For example, if the 500mb modules are PC4300 rated, don't expect faster performance
if you add PC6300 modules.

The best performance difference would be to main the "dual-channel" mode vs "single-channel" mode.

Ciao! ..AA


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On 03-25-17 19:28, Ed Vance <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: New HDD for XP pc <=-

The pc had two 500MB sticks of RAM in it when I bought it, so I bought
two 1GB sticks to put in the other two Slots.

I couldn't see trashing the two 500MB DDR 400 sticks and buying four
1GB sticks to fill all the slots, so I decided 3GB should be enough on
a pc with a CPU that run at 2 Mc/s.

The XP OS is 32-Bit and I was told here that the maximum RAM it could
use was 3.8GB iirc.

Is that still true?

I have no idea on that, but I see that you have another answer that
essentially confirms that.

The store I get my Technology products at has Seagate and WD HDDs
about at the same price BestBuy sells them.

I've only used Verbatim, WD and Toshiba drives for backing up the pc.
Has Seagate corrected whatever problem their drives were having in the past?

I was not aware of that, and thought that they were a reputable brand.
My system has a WD drive, as installed by Dell. Best I can advice is to
do some online research using Google, and/or checking some forum
discussions, such as www.xpforums.com .

I thought to look at the Windows XP Task Manager to see what the Performance Tab Settings are, and type them in for You (and Others)
to look at.

Processes: 68 CPU Usage: 20% Commit Charge: 1915M/12009M

I like to sort on CPU usage so that I can see exactly what is using the
process time. That amount of CPU usage might well be pretty normal
given your system. Again, you might be well served to look at the
forum I mentioned for help and advice from a larger audience with more
direct experience.

Dale Shipp
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In a message on Sunday 03-23-17 Ed Vance said to All:

Hi Ed,

My HP a1430n XP SP3 pc has a AMD 3800+ Dual Core CPU and has been
acting very slow when starting up or when I start a program.

I've been thinking if I replaced the 250GB HDD with a 2TB HDD it
might speed up the pc's performance with more Free Space on the HDD.

Rather you should run one of the free clean-up programs, like CCleaner.
That way you'll get rid of a lot of trash that slows the boot process.

I'm using that program myself.

The C:\ Partition is NTFS and has 194GB Used with 30GB Free = 224GB

With NTFS partitions there's no need to run a diskfrag program.

The D:\ Partition is FAT32 and has 8.06GB Used with 434MB Free =
8.48GB Total

The D:\ partition shouldn't slow down the boot process, since I imagine
that everything needed is on C:\.

Starting up programs from D: could benefit from a diskfrag.

The pc has 3GB DDR 400 RAM and uses a 8.9GB Pagefile.sys file.

3Gb RAM should be more than needed for XP or XPpro. I have considerably
less in my Thinkpad/XPpro. and doing well, but OTOH I'm not much for
picture editing, but looking at'em is OK.

On another note: You may have got the impression that I have been badly hurt/wounded in an accident. It ain't so. Broken bones are usual here
when we have snow and ice, which is the rule during the winter.

On Jan 2nd I slipped on an ice patch an fell on my left hip. I knew
immeadetely that my left leg was broken,and xray's at the hospital told
that the neck of the femur was broken.

A 3 hour operation and almost two weeks in hospital and more than a
month at the rehab center followed before I could get home.


73 de Sam, OH0NC

aka Holger


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Holger,

Rather you should run one of the free clean-up programs, like CCleaner. That way you'll get rid of a lot of trash that slows the boot process.

My Mom has that on her system...but I use the Advanced System Care program suite from IOBit Software...as well as their Smart Defrag, Malware Fighter,
and Driver Booster.

A 3 hour operation and almost two weeks in hospital and more than a
month at the rehab center followed before I could get home.

We didn't have much of a winter in Arkansas...there was one brief winter storm (if you want to call it that), that brought an inch or two of snow
in January. Now, we have a threat of thunderstorms and severe weather (including tornadoes) nearly every day. I've been doing a lot of work with Skywarn as a result.

Daryl, WX1DER

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In a message on Tuesday 03-27-17 Daryl Stout said to Holger Granholm:

Hi Daryl,

Rather you should run one of the free clean-up programs, like
CCleaner. That way you'll get rid of a lot of trash that slows the
boot process.

My Mom has that on her system...but I use the Advanced System Care program suite from IOBit Software...as well as their Smart Defrag,
Malware Fighter, and Driver Booster.

I don't know those programs and am satisfied with the way CCleaner and
AVG keep up the guard.

We didn't have much of a winter in Arkansas...there was one brief
winter storm (if you want to call it that), that brought an inch or
two of snow in January.

Neither did we have much of a winter, but the little there was, hit me!


73 de Sam, OH0NC

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03-26-17 17:45 august abolins wrote to Ed Vance about New HDD for XP pc
Howdy! August,

@MSGID: <58D84896.15092.windowsa@capcity2.synchro.net>
Ed Vance -> Dale Shipp wrote:

My HP a1430n XP SP3 pc has a AMD 3800+ Dual Core CPU and has been
acting very slow when starting up or when I start a program.

I couldn't see trashing the two 500MB DDR 400 sticks and buying four 1GB sticks to fill all the slots, so I decided 3GB should be enough on a pc with a CPU that run at 2 Mc/s.

The XP OS is 32-Bit and I was told here that the maximum RAM it could use was 3.8GB iirc.

Is that still true?

G'day Ed. I still settle for XP on a couple of computers here and
have explored the ram upgrade options as you have. XP is indeed
limited to about 3GB ram (I have seen people quoting estimates between 3.25 and 3.8) So, there is no point going beyond the 3gb that you have invested in.

I have also bumped up the ram in one specific HP model (it too just had 2x500mb modules) but the mobo manual indicated that in order to
maintain and activate the fast "Dual channel" processing speeds, the
ram modules had to be in specific slots.

In my case the mobo supported up to 8gb but it only had XP 32-bit installed, so no point going beyond 3gb. However, to maintain the dual-channel speeds, the modules had to be "balanced" across the dimm slots.

Originally, the 2x500mb modules were in slot 1 in each bank. That triggered the proper dual channel mode. All I had to do was add each
1GB module right next to the 500mb module in the same bank to maintain
the balance. The "banks" are often colour-coded to indicate their
pairing. BUT, your mobo might have another design.

It has been a long time but I think I left the two 500MB cards where they
were and placed the two 1GB cards in the empty slots.
So I wought to be O.K. on that "Balancing" the dual-channel speed. ???

I won't go into techy details about all that because your mobo manual could probably explain it with illustrations for your particular mobo.

I probably D/L'd the mobo manual just after buying the pc, I will hafta look.

Also, the pc will only operate as fast as the slowest supported module. For example, if the 500mb modules are PC4300 rated, don't expect faster performance if you add PC6300 modules.

I know I bought 1GB DDR 400 RAM but unsure what speed the store had to sell
to me.

The best performance difference would be to main the "dual-channel"
mode vs "single-channel" mode.

Ciao! ..AA

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Hi Daryl,

Hi, Holger,

I don't know those programs and am satisfied with the way CCleaner and AVG keep up the guard.

If it works for you, and you have a way to "practice safe hex", you
should be OK. While you're not likely to see stuff for MS-DOS, or older
Windows systems (3.x, etc.), it may still be out there.

It wouldn't surprise me if there are some who do NOT "practice safe hex".

Several years ago, a user uploaded a harmless TSR to the BBS, which you
could set after a certain number of keystrokes, it would display a bizarre
ANSI message...such as:

1) Flashing letters saying "Get Back To Work".
2) A clown sticking his tongue in and out.
3) A message asking "What are you looking at??".
4) A message saying "The boss is behind you right now".

LOL!!

Unfortunately, I lost that in a crash years ago...but it was a harmless
TSR.

A fellow ham radio operator "got the attention" of the Chief Information officer at his workplace last week. He got a bunch of these USB thumb
drives, and wrote up a simple program to start typing stuff on the screen.
He gave it to his CIO, who thought it was a PowerPoint presentation...
imagine the shock when the deal started typing on its own!!

What was funny is that the CIO asked him "can you send up an email, and
get some more of these??", because the guy was always harping on security
at the workplace. He laughingly agreed, and quipped "I wonder how many will fall for this, and end up calling tech support". <G>

I heard of this on a packet BBS net this past Monday...and I told him
that "you better be glad your CIO has a sense of humor". The Net Control
typed that "If I tried that at my workplace, I'd be out of a job!!".

Neither did we have much of a winter, but the little there was, hit me!

Around here, people think they can stop just as fast on a rainy, wet,
snowy, or icy pavement, as they can on a dry pavement. My response to
that is what was on one of these "Hip Ham T-Shirts", that I saw a
license exam candidate wear to a test session. It said on it "Whiskey
Tango Foxtrot??".

When I first looked it, it didn't register...then, it clicked, and I said "Oh, <expletive>!!". He replied "That was my reaction when I opened the Amateur Extra Class exam book (the top license in the U.S.).

But, in so many things in life, as Forrest Gump said "Stupid is as
stupid does". I saw an image on Facebook, where this squirrel was
praying "Lord, please stop the stupid people from breeding. We're
being overrun down here". :P

Daryl, WX1DER

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03-26-17 17:45 august abolins wrote to Ed Vance about New HDD for XP pc

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Ed Vance -> Dale Shipp wrote:

My HP a1430n XP SP3 pc has a AMD 3800+ Dual Core CPU and has been
acting very slow when starting up or when I start a program.

I couldn't see trashing the two 500MB DDR 400 sticks and buying four 1GB sticks to fill all the slots, so I decided 3GB should be enough on a pc with a CPU that run at 2 Mc/s.

The XP OS is 32-Bit and I was told here that the maximum RAM it could use was 3.8GB iirc.

Is that still true?

G'day Ed. I still settle for XP on a couple of computers here and
have explored the ram upgrade options as you have. XP is indeed
limited to about 3GB ram (I have seen people quoting estimates between 3.25 and 3.8) So, there is no point going beyond the 3gb that you have invested in.

-snip-
Howdy! again August,

I found the packages the two 1GB DDR 400 came in.

They are Kingston ValueRAM PC3200.

One of them was made in the USA the other one was made in China.

Also I may had moved the two 500MB cards to the unused slots and put
the new RAM in the slots that I took the 500MB RAM from.
Can't remember very well what I did 11 years ago.

I also found the Mobo specs. in the papers HP supplied.
It's just general specs., not like You wrote about in Your earlier post.

The Mobo is a Asus A8N-LA that HP calls Nagami-GL8E .
I will see if I can find more info in Search Results later today.

HP's specs. says the 939 Socket on the Mobo can use a AMD Athlon 64 X2
up to 4800+ .

I don't care to replace the 3800+ CPU with a 4800+ , but if the CPU ever
fails if I can find a 4800+ I would get one for it.

Thanks for Your comments.


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03-27-17 01:38 Dale Shipp wrote to Ed Vance about Re: New HDD for XP pc
Howdy! Dale,

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On 03-25-17 19:28, Ed Vance <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: New HDD for XP pc <=-

-snip-

I've only used Verbatim, WD and Toshiba drives for backing up the pc.
Has Seagate corrected whatever problem their drives were having in the past?

I was not aware of that, and thought that they were a reputable brand.
My system has a WD drive, as installed by Dell. Best I can advice is
to do some online research using Google, and/or checking some forum discussions, such as www.xpforums.com .

I thought to look at the Windows XP Task Manager to see what the Performance Tab Settings are, and type them in for You (and Others)
to look at.

Processes: 68 CPU Usage: 20% Commit Charge: 1915M/12009M

I like to sort on CPU usage so that I can see exactly what is using the process time. That amount of CPU usage might well be pretty normal
given your system. Again, you might be well served to look at the
forum I mentioned for help and advice from a larger audience with more direct experience.

When I start the XP Task Manager I click that CPU Tab too.

Thanks for the xpforums.com URL.
I will take a look there too to see what they say, and maybe Log In.???



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03-26-17 13:49 Holger Granholm wrote to Ed Vance about Re: New HDD for XP pc Howdy! Holger,

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In a message on Sunday 03-23-17 Ed Vance said to All:

Hi Ed,

My HP a1430n XP SP3 pc has a AMD 3800+ Dual Core CPU and has been
acting very slow when starting up or when I start a program.

I've been thinking if I replaced the 250GB HDD with a 2TB HDD it
might speed up the pc's performance with more Free Space on the HDD.

Rather you should run one of the free clean-up programs, like CCleaner. That way you'll get rid of a lot of trash that slows the boot process.

I'm using that program myself.

I got a copy of CCleaner back in 2010.

I never used it much because I sometimes like to see what is in the
Temporary Files on this XP pc. Yeah, I know, I'm not the smartest.

The C:\ Partition is NTFS and has 194GB Used with 30GB Free = 224GB

With NTFS partitions there's no need to run a diskfrag program.

The D:\ Partition is FAT32 and has 8.06GB Used with 434MB Free =
8.48GB Total

The D:\ partition shouldn't slow down the boot process, since I imagine that everything needed is on C:\.

I don't think so either.
I don't see many files added or given a more recent date, I always thought
it was where HP put the Recovery Data they asked me to make when I got
the XP box.
The D: partition is 8GB and the two Recovery DVD I made total about 8GB too.

Starting up programs from D: could benefit from a diskfrag.

O.K. , Thanks!

The pc has 3GB DDR 400 RAM and uses a 8.9GB Pagefile.sys file.

3Gb RAM should be more than needed for XP or XPpro. I have considerably less in my Thinkpad/XPpro. and doing well, but OTOH I'm not much for picture editing, but looking at'em is OK.

What little Resizing, aka picture editing I do with Irfanview ain't much.
I'm glad I can piddle some with images/pictures.

On another note: You may have got the impression that I have been badly hurt/wounded in an accident. It ain't so. Broken bones are usual here
when we have snow and ice, which is the rule during the winter.

On Jan 2nd I slipped on an ice patch an fell on my left hip. I knew immeadetely that my left leg was broken,and xray's at the hospital told that the neck of the femur was broken.

A 3 hour operation and almost two weeks in hospital and more than a
month at the rehab center followed before I could get home.

Thanks for the updated info.
I have slipped on ice a long time ago, and had to use a cane when I walked. Never had to be in the hospital though, I'm glad the hospital helped You.

I hate to walk on ice, I just slide one foot at a time when I have to.

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In a message on Thursday 04-03-17 Ed Vance said to Holger Granholm:

GE Ed,

03-26-17 13:49 Holger Granholm wrote to Ed Vance about Re: New HDD
for XP pc Howdy! Holger,

It's a long turn around time for messages to/from you :o(

I got a copy of CCleaner back in 2010.

I never used it much because I sometimes like to see what is in the Temporary Files on this XP pc. Yeah, I know, I'm not the smartest.

You get a comprehensive list of what files it wants to remove.

I don't see many files added or given a more recent date, I always
thought it was where HP put the Recovery Data they asked me to make
when I got the XP box.

AFAIK, the recovery partition normally doesn't have a drive letter.

What little Resizing, aka picture editing I do with Irfanview ain't
much. I'm glad I can piddle some with images/pictures.

The resizing and adjusting contrast and size I do with PMView in OS/2..

A 3 hour operation and almost two weeks in hospital and more than a
month at the rehab center followed before I could get home.

Thanks for the updated info.

I hate to walk on ice, I just slide one foot at a time when I have
to.

I don't mind walking on snow covered paths with ice patches as long as I
have studs on the heels. I was on my way home to put those stud add-ons
on my boots when the accident happened.


73 es GN de Sam, OH0NC

aka Holger


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04-06-17 09:39 Holger Granholm wrote to Ed Vance about Re: New HDD for XP pc Howdy! Holger,

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In a message on Thursday 04-03-17 Ed Vance said to Holger Granholm:

GE Ed,

03-26-17 13:49 Holger Granholm wrote to Ed Vance about Re: New HDD
for XP pc Howdy! Holger,

It's a long turn around time for messages to/from you :o(

Yep, sure is.
I just aint wired for Stereo.

I got a copy of CCleaner back in 2010.

I never used it much because I sometimes like to see what is in the Temporary Files on this XP pc. Yeah, I know, I'm not the smartest.

You get a comprehensive list of what files it wants to remove.

Appericate the comment about CCleaner giving the computer operator a
chance to see what it wants to do, instead of just doing it, as I've had
happen the few times I used unfamiliar Programs.

I don't see many files added or given a more recent date, I always
thought it was where HP put the Recovery Data they asked me to make
when I got the XP box.

AFAIK, the recovery partition normally doesn't have a drive letter.

The Acer Vista box has a Hidden Partition, but haven't seen it on this
XP MCE 2005 SP3 box (yet).

What little Resizing, aka picture editing I do with Irfanview ain't
much. I'm glad I can piddle some with images/pictures.

The resizing and adjusting contrast and size I do with PMView in OS/2..

I'm sure it was after much experimentation with other Imageing software
that You chose PMView.

I've looked at GIMP and one or two others before deciding on Irfanview
to do whatever I try doing with Images.

I'm still learning and still read the Help information often.

A 3 hour operation and almost two weeks in hospital and more than a
month at the rehab center followed before I could get home.

Thanks for the updated info.

I hate to walk on ice, I just slide one foot at a time when I have
to.

I don't mind walking on snow covered paths with ice patches as long as
I have studs on the heels. I was on my way home to put those stud
add-ons on my boots when the accident happened.

OOPS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hope Easter Sunday is a Good Day for You.

73 de Ed W9ODR . .


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In a message on Saturday 04-13-17 Ed Vance said to Holger Granholm:

GE Ed,

It's a long turn around time for messages to/from you :o(

Yep, sure is.
I just aint wired for Stereo.

Neither am I, but nevertheless I reply to at least personal mail, the
same day.

I got a copy of CCleaner back in 2010.

I never used it much because I sometimes like to see what is in the Temporary Files on this XP pc. Yeah, I know, I'm not the smartest.

Just today I let it do its thing, and it removed over 1Gb trash.

had happen the few times I used unfamiliar Programs.

You'll have to RTFM, or at least check the help for various items.

AFAIK, the recovery partition normally doesn't have a drive letter.

The Acer Vista box has a Hidden Partition, but haven't seen it on
this XP MCE 2005 SP3 box (yet).

A hidden partition doesn't show a drive letter. If it exists, depends on
the way the operation systems was installed.

The resizing and adjusting contrast and size I do with PMView in OS/2..

I'm sure it was after much experimentation with other Imageing
software that You chose PMView.

No, in fact it was the first one I installed, and since it does what I
want it to do, I haven't tested any others.

For Windows I'll check if Irfanview fills my bill.

I've looked at GIMP and one or two others before deciding on
Irfanview to do whatever I try doing with Images.

OK, I'm glad to note an experienced users view.

I don't mind walking on snow covered paths with ice patches as long as
I have studs on the heels. I was on my way home to put those stud
add-ons on my boots when the accident happened.

OOPS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

As they said at the ham radio club...."Of all people, Holger!!", because
I have always been a proponent for studded boots in the winter.

By law we are forced to use studded, or at least M/S tires on our cars,
during the winter season. Today my son mounted my summer wheels on the
car. Because of my accident I'm still not capable to do it myself.

Hope Easter Sunday is a Good Day for You.

That'll be tomorrow. I hope it also.

GN es hpy easter.


73 de Sam, OH0NC

aka Holger


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04-15-17 20:36 Holger Granholm wrote to Ed Vance about Re: New HDD for XP pc Howdy! Holger,

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In a message on Saturday 04-13-17 Ed Vance said to Holger Granholm:

I got a copy of CCleaner back in 2010.

I never used it much because I sometimes like to see what is in the Temporary Files on this XP pc. Yeah, I know, I'm not the smartest.

had happen the few times I used unfamiliar Programs.

You'll have to RTFM, or at least check the help for various items.

It was a MS Program that deleted some files without alerting me it would
do it on it's own.
I don't like it when unexpected things occur.

Computering is fun!

AFAIK, the recovery partition normally doesn't have a drive letter.

The Acer Vista box has a Hidden Partition, but haven't seen it on
this XP MCE 2005 SP3 box (yet).

A hidden partition doesn't show a drive letter. If it exists, depends
on the way the operation systems was installed.

The two backup programs I have used on this XP and the Vista computers
has shown the Hidden Partition on the Acer box but never has shown a
Hidden Partition on this XP box.
That's why I don't think HP put one on it.
I don't really know, but I try learning what these things do.

The resizing and adjusting contrast and size I do with PMView in OS/2..

I'm sure it was after much experimentation with other Imageing
software that You chose PMView.

No, in fact it was the first one I installed, and since it does what I want it to do, I haven't tested any others.

That's good.

For Windows I'll check if Irfanview fills my bill.

I like using it.
Remember to also download the Plug-In Package for the version You will use
in case one or some of them may be needed later on.

I've looked at GIMP and one or two others before deciding on
Irfanview to do whatever I try doing with Images.

OK, I'm glad to note an experienced users view.

TKS, I tried it and I liked it so I keep on using it.

Hope Easter Sunday is a Good Day for You.

That'll be tomorrow. I hope it also.

During the Easter Sunday service there was a hard rain shower hitting on
the roof over the Church, but when the service was ended the showers had
ended.

When does the freezing WX end for the Aland Islands?

My guess is You still have that "dirty old white stuff" on the ground
until maybe next month, is that correct?

73 de Ed W9ODR . .
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In a message on Saturday 04-19-17 Ed Vance said to Holger Granholm:

Hi Ed,

I got a copy of CCleaner back in 2010.

That may have been about the time I too got CCleaner for my Lenovo/XP
laptop.

You'll have to RTFM, or at least check the help for various items.

It was a MS Program that deleted some files without alerting me it
would do it on it's own.

Usually, even M$ programs do tell what they are going to do. You'll only
have to use (and understand) the information presented.

I don't like it when unexpected things occur.

No-one does!

BTW, late last night I saw that I had a message from you in the Win10
machine. I'll reply to it today.

The Acer Vista box has a Hidden Partition, but haven't seen it on
this XP MCE 2005 SP3 box (yet).

Partitition programs do show all partitions. Easeus Partition Manager is
one that I have installed on my Win10 machines. It's free too.

The two backup programs I have used on this XP and the Vista
computers has shown the Hidden Partition on the Acer box but never

They usually do.

has shown a Hidden Partition on this XP box.

The reason is simple. On modern machines (even some XP's) the partition harbours the installation program. In the XP-era Windows was delivered
on a CD.

If needed, you can reinstall Windows either way. Please note that the
"hidden" partition is NOT a backup partition.

When upgrading a Win7 machine to Windows 10, you do get sort of a backup partition that contains the previous (ie 7) operating system. You can
reinstall the old operating system within 30 days, using that backup.

For Windows I'll check if Irfanview fills my bill.

Remember to also download the Plug-In Package for the version You
will use in case one or some of them may be needed later on.

Thanks for the advice.

When does the freezing WX end for the Aland Islands?

It has ended now, except that we may still get frost at night time if
the sky is clear.

My guess is You still have that "dirty old white stuff" on the
ground until maybe next month, is that correct?

Wrong! Although we had a shower of that stuff one evening about a week
ago, but in the morning it had melted away.

Since march 22nd I have walked (with crutches so far), every day, except
the few rainy days.

I couldn't do it with snow on the ground, because cruthes too can slip.


73 de Sam, OH0NC

aka Holger


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04-22-17 09:51 Holger Granholm wrote to Ed Vance about Re: New HDD for XP pc Howdy! Holger,
-snip-

It was a MS Program that deleted some files without alerting me it
would do it on it's own.

Usually, even M$ programs do tell what they are going to do. You'll
only have to use (and understand) the information presented.

I don't like it when unexpected things occur.

No-one does!

BTW, late last night I saw that I had a message from you in the Win10 machine. I'll reply to it today.

The Acer Vista box has a Hidden Partition, but haven't seen it on
this XP MCE 2005 SP3 box (yet).

Partitition programs do show all partitions. Easeus Partition Manager
is one that I have installed on my Win10 machines. It's free too.

The two backup programs I have used on this XP and the Vista
computers has shown the Hidden Partition on the Acer box but never

They usually do.

has shown a Hidden Partition on this XP box.

The reason is simple. On modern machines (even some XP's) the partition harbours the installation program. In the XP-era Windows was delivered
on a CD.

When I turned on the XP computer from HP a message showed on the screen instructing me to burn some CDs or DVDs to be used for Recovery Media
to restore their computer to the way it was when I bought it.
I used 2 DVDs to do that JIC I ever needed it.

Because the D: Partition is also 8GB I have thought that the D: Partition
is what HP used to make the DVD media that I burned.
I have been wrong B4, Probably Now Too.

When I open Control Panel - Computer Management - Storage - Disk Management
it shows the C: and D: partitions on the HDD.
Disk Management hasn't shown me any hidden partition(s) that is why I
think there isn't one on my HP XP box.
I have been wrong B4, Maybe Now Too.

If needed, you can reinstall Windows either way. Please note that the "hidden" partition is NOT a backup partition.

I'd have to look at the Acer Vista box to see what is on it some time later.

When upgrading a Win7 machine to Windows 10, you do get sort of a
backup partition that contains the previous (ie 7) operating system.
You can reinstall the old operating system within 30 days, using that backup.

I've read about that on www.askwoody.com .

For Windows I'll check if Irfanview fills my bill.

Remember to also download the Plug-In Package for the version You
will use in case one or some of them may be needed later on.

Thanks for the advice.

UR Welcome.

When does the freezing WX end for the Aland Islands?

It has ended now, except that we may still get frost at night time if
the sky is clear.

My guess is You still have that "dirty old white stuff" on the
ground until maybe next month, is that correct?

Wrong! Although we had a shower of that stuff one evening about a week ago, but in the morning it had melted away.

Since march 22nd I have walked (with crutches so far), every day,
except the few rainy days.

I couldn't do it with snow on the ground, because cruthes too can slip.

Thanks for the info.

.. I have no problem with God. It's His fan club I avoid.

The Sunday Bunch?

73 de Ed W9ODR ..

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In a message on Saturday 04-13-17 Ed Vance said to Holger Granholm:

GE Ed,

It's a long turn around time for messages to/from you :o(

Yep, sure is.
I just aint wired for Stereo.

Neither am I, but nevertheless I reply to at least personal mail, the same day.

I got a copy of CCleaner back in 2010.

I never used it much because I sometimes like to see what is in the Temporary Files on this XP pc. Yeah, I know, I'm not the smartest.

Just today I let it do its thing, and it removed over 1Gb trash.

had happen the few times I used unfamiliar Programs.

You'll have to RTFM, or at least check the help for various items.

AFAIK, the recovery partition normally doesn't have a drive letter.

The Acer Vista box has a Hidden Partition, but haven't seen it on
this XP MCE 2005 SP3 box (yet).

A hidden partition doesn't show a drive letter. If it exists, depends on the way the operation systems was installed.

The resizing and adjusting contrast and size I do with PMView in OS/2..

I'm sure it was after much experimentation with other Imageing
software that You chose PMView.

No, in fact it was the first one I installed, and since it does what I want it to do, I haven't tested any others.

For Windows I'll check if Irfanview fills my bill.

I've looked at GIMP and one or two others before deciding on
Irfanview to do whatever I try doing with Images.

OK, I'm glad to note an experienced users view.

I don't mind walking on snow covered paths with ice patches as long as
I have studs on the heels. I was on my way home to put those stud
add-ons on my boots when the accident happened.

OOPS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

As they said at the ham radio club...."Of all people, Holger!!", because I have
always been a proponent for studded boots in the winter.

By law we are forced to use studded, or at least M/S tires on our cars, during the winter season. Today my son mounted my summer wheels on the car. Because of
my accident I'm still not capable to do it myself.

Hope Easter Sunday is a Good Day for You.

That'll be tomorrow. I hope it also.

GN es hpy easter.


73 de Sam, OH0NC

aka Holger


.. An Elephant; A Mouse built to government specifications.
-- MR/2 2.30


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