• Your current version of Windows

    From E Sullens@1:135/369 to All on Sunday, December 01, 2019 18:02:43
    Hi all,
    I am writing out of curiosity. I know a majority of us people are using some form of GNU/Linux, so this is for the Microsoft Windows users. General question:
    What version of Windows are you currently using and what version have you updated to? It is totally okay and encouraged if you have more than one
    Windows OS (maybe on another tower or VM) ... what are their specs?

    Do you have any quarrels with the software as of late?

    As for me currently I am running Windows 10 Professional 64bit. I am up to feature version 1909. And surprisingly my entire experience with Win 10 has been flawless and fairly fast on the updates. I can't recollect the last time it completely crashed on me. It's been a few years!

    CPU is a custom barebones build from 2011.
    AMD FX 6100 Black Edition / 6 cores @ 3.31 GHz
    8 Gig DDR3 ram
    240 Gig Kingston SSD (about slap full)
    On-board graphics
    Nothing special... I could update it, but I haven't found a need to.

    How about you? Thanks for any feedback!

    -Ethan Sullens

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  • From August Abolins@2:221/360 to E Sullens on Monday, December 02, 2019 03:32:48
    In a post between "E Sullens : All", on 12/1/2019 6:02 PM

    What version of Windows are you currently using and what
    version have you updated to? .. what are their specs?

    [1]
    WinXP, Thinkpad T60/T2400/1.83GHz/3GB 250GB HDD

    [2]
    WinXP, Lenovo G530/T6500/2.5GB 160GB HDD

    [3]
    WinXP, IBM Thinkcenter MTM8143 tower/P4 530 3GHz/2.5GB 75GB HDD

    This is poised to be an experimental Linux Mint pc someday, or I might send it to the landfill because I don't like the sound of the fan running. The XP in this particular pc seems to be accessing the HDD every second and the sound is very noticeable. The live boots of Linux were not doing that.

    [4]
    Win7, HP Slim 100B tower/desktop 4GB (more details later if interested)

    [5]
    Win7, Dell (more details later if interested)

    This had XP originally. Problems arose. Tried Lubuntu/64bit and then Manjaro/64bit for a while. I was impresseed. But I had a problem getting networking to work with other Win pcs. So, I settled with Win7. Nice pc, CPU is
    64bit supported, but mobo only recognizes 4GB max with Linux, and only 3GB max with Windows.


    Do you have any quarrels with the software as of late?

    WinXP and Win7 cooperating very nicely. Just running out of HHD space on all of
    them.


    As for me currently I am running Windows 10 Professional
    64bit. I am up to feature version 1909. And surprisingly my
    entire experience with Win 10 has been flawless..

    Good to hear.


    ... I can't recollect the last time it
    completely crashed on me. It's been a few years!

    Are you leaving it on 24/7? If so, then I am impressed.

    Are you doing a full shutdown at the end of your day? If so, that probably explains a smoother operation. A full reboot often cleans up things.


    CPU is a custom barebones build from 2011. AMD FX 6100 Black
    Edition / 6 cores @ 3.31 GHz 8 Gig DDR3 ram 240 Gig Kingston
    SSD (about slap full)

    That's a very modern machine. My [4] above is the newest of the bunch. I have the extra 4GB modules for it since about 6 months ago to maximize it to 8GB, but no spare time to plop it in.

    --- Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228)
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  • From Paul Quinn@3:640/1384 to August Abolins on Monday, December 02, 2019 11:54:35
    Hi! August,

    On 02 Dec 19 03:32, you wrote to E Sullens:

    My [4] above is the newest of the bunch. I have the extra 4GB modules
    for it since about 6 months ago to maximize it to 8GB, but no spare
    time to plop it in.

    Just do it. I recently upgraded my Dell Inspiron 560 (2010 model) to 8Gb and it's still 'so nice'. (OTOH, it needs a couple of HDD fixes.) It ran Windows 7 out of the box, for 10 minutes till I saw the AV crappola. Then I plonked Ubuntu 10.04 LTS on it and never looked back. Now has Xubuntu 18.04 LTS/64... smooth.

    Cheers,
    Paul.

    ... Nothing's too good for the man who shot Liberty Valance.
    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20130515
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  • From August Abolins@2:221/360 to Paul Quinn on Monday, December 02, 2019 05:58:25
    In a post between "Paul Quinn : August Abolins", on 12/1/2019 8:54 PM

    My [4] above is the newest of the bunch. I have the extra
    4GB modules for it since about 6 months ago..

    Just do it. I recently upgraded my Dell Inspiron 560 (2010
    model) to 8Gb and it's still 'so nice'. (OTOH, it needs a
    couple of HDD fixes.) It ran Windows 7 out of the box, for
    10 minutes till I saw the AV crappola. Then I plonked Ubuntu
    10.04 LTS on it and never looked back. Now has Xubuntu 18.04
    LTS/64... smooth.

    Yes, 8GB would make a big improvement for the [4] pc. Ram typically reaches near the current 4GB limit during the day when using my required programs at the same time.

    The [4] pc is quiet, and small. I should be able to even replace the current HDD with a larger SDD drive. But downtime is a rare commodity at the end of the
    business day which is typically 10+ hours.

    The [4] pc is parked in a little nook that is currently blocked by "few things". <G> No spare time to move those "few things", clean up the dust, and put everything back - fast.

    * Origin: Quinn's Rock - Live from Paul's Xubuntu desktop!

    I had quite the educational experience exploring linux distros for a friend. I
    liked Xubuntu as well. The trick was to find the right distro to match the specs of the pc. Not every distro played well with NVIDIA video in the aforementioned [5] Dell pc for example.

    BTW, although the [5] Dell pc supported 64-bit instructions, I settled with Win7/32.

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  • From August Abolins@2:221/360 to Paul Quinn on Monday, December 02, 2019 06:09:38
    In a post between "Paul Quinn : August Abolins", on 12/1/2019 8:54 PM

    ..I recently upgraded my Dell Inspiron 560 (2010 model) to
    8Gb and it's still 'so nice'. (OTOH, it needs a couple of HDD fixes.)
    It ran Windows 7 out of the box, for 10 minutes till I saw the AV
    crappola.

    I forgot to mention.. I'm on the same page as you w.r.t AV crappola required for Win OS! I'm sick of it. I delay the Win7 Security Essentials update announcements for as long as I can. I *hate* being forced to reboot after other system updates. Even the shutdown process forces you to wait as it installs stuff, then there is further delay during the actual reboot.

    I installed a network driver update one time and all my previous settings for wake on lan and mouse/keyboard wake and other things were overwritten.

    I generally put my win pcs on hibernate.

    --- Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228)
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  • From Paul Quinn@3:640/1384 to August Abolins on Monday, December 02, 2019 16:18:45
    Hi! August,

    On 02 Dec 19 05:58, you wrote to me:

    I had quite the educational experience exploring linux distros for a friend. I liked Xubuntu as well. The trick was to find the right
    distro to match the specs of the pc. Not every distro played well
    with NVIDIA video in the aforementioned [5] Dell pc for example.

    Did you try Lubuntu? I have a couple of VirtualBox VMs on standby with Lubuntu
    18.04 LTS configured. They run so lightly: less than 1Gb with ~200Mb in use; humming at 20% CPU unless needed. They're there if I need to switch to IPv6...
    sometime never. ;)

    Cheers,
    Paul.

    ... General failure reading drive A: Please remove your fist.
    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20130515
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  • From Paul Quinn@3:640/1384 to August Abolins on Monday, December 02, 2019 16:28:14
    Hi! August,

    On 02 Dec 19 06:09, you wrote to me:

    I forgot to mention.. I'm on the same page as you w.r.t AV crappola required for Win OS! I'm sick of it. I delay the Win7 Security Essentials update announcements for as long as I can. I *hate* being forced to reboot after other system updates. Even the shutdown
    process forces you to wait as it installs stuff, then there is further delay during the actual reboot.

    I know. I went through all that with a HP 110-501a running Win8.1, till the warranty ran out. I ended up with a forearm's length of a hate list on Window's faults. It's also running the same Xubuntu/64 as the Dell now.

    Cheers,
    Paul.

    ... It said 'Insert disk #3', but only two will fit!!
    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20130515
    * Origin: Quinn's Rock - Live from Paul's Xubuntu desktop! (3:640/1384)
  • From August Abolins@2:221/360 to August Abolins on Monday, December 02, 2019 20:17:11
    On 01/12/2019 8:32 p.m., August Abolins wrote to E Sullens:

    [4]
       Win7, HP Slim 100B tower/desktop 4GB (more details later if interested)

    Additional details:

    Win7/64 AMD E-350 1.6GHz, 230GB HDD


    [5]
       Win7, Dell (more details later if interested)

    Not a Dell..

    Win7/32 eMachines T6528, AMD Athlon 3500+ 2.21Ghz, 160GB HDD

    I like [5] pc better than the [3] Thinkcentre, but [3] has the more modern SATA
    for HDD and [5] is the older EIDE.

    I used [5] to explore various linux distros to replace the original XP on it. Lubuntu/LXDE was the simplest one that supported the NVIDIA card without tearing. Networking with other Win pcs worked well.

    Then, Manjaro/Xfce was a very nice performer and supported NVIDIA right out of the box. But, then I encountered SAMBA problems with networking to existing Win machines.

    Lubuntu was quite fine for my friend. The pc was a smooth operator with the /64
    version and utilized the full 4GB ram. But.. they wanted their legacy HP printer to work. We encountered a problem that required re-activating the drivers after each reboot. Not good. Friend ended up with a donated W10 pc from a neighbour, and I ended up with the eMachine with Manjaro at the time.

    I wasn't interested in re-installed and doing all the work tweeking Lubuntu, so
    I just purchased Win7/32 ..and everything works.

    The stories our pcs could tell, eh?

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  • From August Abolins@2:221/360 to Paul Quinn on Monday, December 02, 2019 21:11:00
    On 02/12/2019 1:18 a.m., Paul Quinn : August Abolins wrote:

    I had quite the educational experience exploring linux distros
    for a friend. I liked Xubuntu as well. The trick was to find the
    right distro to match the specs of the pc..

    Did you try Lubuntu? I have a couple of VirtualBox VMs on
    standby with Lubuntu 18.04 LTS configured. They run so lightly:
    less than 1Gb with ~200Mb in use; humming at 20% CPU unless
    needed. They're there if I need to switch to IPv6... sometime
    never. ;)

    Yes.. Lubuntu/64 was the best "light" version for the eMachine. I would have liked it myself. Up to then, I spent a lot of time researching the NVIDIA screen tearing problem, installing apps (I was surprised that Lubuntu did *not*
    come with a basic files search! (Nautulus/Catfish), and tweaking some other things. What a pain learning about them and how to configure those things.

    When pretty much everything was working nicely, I encountered a problem with my
    friend's legacy printer. The best thing to do at the time was to get a new printer, imho!

    Later, back in my possession, I discovered that the same pc with Manjaro/64 was
    not cooperating with my network. :(

    I learned that the best thing (for me, especially if I was building a machine for someone else who is not a geek) is to have a distro that already *has* the basics you would expect: filesearch, screensaver, office suite, internet stuff,
    music player, video player. Trying different addons, uninstalling, reinstalling, etc.. is not worth it, ....unless it was my own pc.

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  • From Kurt Weiske@1:218/700 to E Sullens on Monday, December 02, 2019 07:28:00
    E Sullens wrote to All <=-

    What version of Windows are you currently using and what version have
    you updated to? It is totally okay and encouraged if you have more than one Windows OS (maybe on another tower or VM) ... what are their specs?

    Windows 10 Pro 1909 on my desktop (64 bit) and BBS (32 bit), Linux Mint on
    my laptop, and most of my VMs are now Windows 10 - upgraded from Windows 7 using the Windows 7 serial number. I wanted to upgrade everything I had running Windows 7 before the EOL date, thinking that Microsoft would stop allowing upgrades then.

    Oh, and I have Windows 3.11 for Workgroups running in DOSBOX on my phone,
    and a Windows 3.11 and Windows95 VM on my desktop. :)


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  • From Robert Burns@1:154/50 to E Sullens on Sunday, December 08, 2019 14:49:06
    My computers in order of Windows version:
    Windows 2 - NuXT 4.77mhz
    Windows 3.11 - 386/40
    Windows 95 - Compaq Prolinea
    Windows 98 - Gateway Solo 2500
    Window 22000 - Gateway Solo 9500
    Windows XP - Acer Aspire 5250
    Windows Vista - Gateway MS2274
    Windows 7 - Gateway NEW95
    Windows 8 - Gateway NEW95
    Windows 10 - Thinkpad W540

    I've also got a proper gaming machine with Windows 10.
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