GM OM.

In W-10, you can change to any language. Click the small white window at the
very left of the taskbar, click on Settings, this will open up a menu, full page. At the far left, bottom row, you will find a choice. Click on it and you will be able to change the language for the whole OS. I tried to change to French for a friend but got it back to English as it only changed the OS language, not the rest of the apps.

I would select US as a local to have proper change done. You do not have to do
all the work yourself ! Let me know what you get.

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In a message on Tuesday 01-24-16 Jean Parrot said to Holger Granholm:

Hi Jean,

A follow up.

In W-10, you can change to any language. Click the small white
window at the very left of the taskbar, click on Settings, this will
open up a menu, full page. At the far left, bottom row, you will
find a choice. Click on it and you will be able to change the
language for the whole OS.

Done that.

I tried to change to French for a friend but got it back to English

I would select US as a local to have proper change done. You do
not have to do all the work yourself ! Let me know what you get.

I've done that, no dice.

Yesterday, I first updated AVG and then went to M$ and updated Win10
to todays stand. Even though I used the US english language setting,
nothing happened to the languages.

Talked to a serviceman at a computer service, and he showed on the
control panel the language setup screen that I may have to import
the language package.

OTOH, my machine does have the package. If I want the british english available, I have to import that package.

Oh well, I have to do other jobs now, but after that I'll go to a friend
that does nothing else but Windows.

I'll let you know the continued advances.
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In a dec.31st 2015 message you replied:

I will however still use OS/2 on all other machines.

You are a better user than I. I alwasy had problems with this darned
command line stuff.

I forgot to comment on that statement.

There seems to be a misconception among some Windows users that OS/2 is
a command line oriented system.

That is wrong. OS/2 had a GUI already in v2.1 when I installed it 1993.
That GUI grew better with Warp3 and improved again with Warp4 in 1996.

Windows 286 didn't have a GUI interface, but looked like the PCTools
interface, sort of a file manager where you could choose the program
you wanted to run. It was named something like "Executive ....." IRC.

The first Windows real GUI came with Windows v3.0.

You see, I've used Windows since v1.03, until I became an OS/2 addict.


73 de Sam, OH0NC

aka Holger

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GM back at U, Holger .

Same here, as you, I've got it only partly "translated", by settings in the settings menu, where you also find Time/Date/Region etc.

That is where you can fix this.

It still keeps greeting me in swedish, and using the application names
in swedish, but even though the Explorer is named "Utforskaren" in swedish, it comes up with the Win-E key combo.

You can make it the default. Let me find where. Fiddle around a "Language"
prompt. I am sure you can find your way around.

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Me again, Holger.

Talked to a serviceman at a computer service, and he showed on the
control panel the language setup screen that I may have to import
the language package.

I doubt this as I think that deep under, it is all in English, Merikan !

I forgot to comment on that statement.
There seems to be a misconception among some Windows users that OS/2 is
a command line oriented system.
That is wrong. OS/2 had a GUI already in v2.1 when I installed it 1993. That GUI grew better with Warp3 and improved again with Warp4 in 1996.

I would be guilty of this too. I have never seen an OS/2 machine. At times,
even on this W-10 machine, I go to the C:\ and give it some DOS command. I randomly go to Safe mode and do the same. I have to look up the spelling of that command first, I can not remember them all.

At the moment, my Lenovo has a bug, Intel Agent is controlling the booting and
after so many years, I forgot how to disable it. It came back active as I thought that I had to re-flash the BIOS. Shoot !

Be good.

--- Paul's Win98SE VirtualBox
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In a message on Monday 01-31-16 Jean Parrot said to Holger Granholm:

Me again, Holger.

Talked to a serviceman at a computer service, and he showed on the
control panel the language setup screen that I may have to import
the language package.

I doubt this as I think that deep under, it is all in English,
Merikan !

Yes that is my opinion too, it shouldn't be so difficult to wake it up.

My setup screen doesn't tell me that the language package has to be
imported, as it does for other packages.

That is wrong. OS/2 had a GUI already in v2.1 when I installed it 1993. That GUI grew better with Warp3 and improved again with Warp4 in 1996.

I would be guilty of this too. I have never seen an OS/2 machine.

As noticed, hi.

At times, even on this W-10 machine, I go to the C:\ and give it
some DOS command. I randomly go to Safe mode and do the same.

Very often that is a much faster way to get things done, than to chase
that rat on the screen to different "stations".

At the moment, my Lenovo has a bug, Intel Agent is controlling the booting and after so many years, I forgot how to disable it. It came
back active as I thought that I had to re-flash the BIOS. Shoot !

The first place to look for it, would of course be in the BIOS.
IIRC you get there by pressing F1 at booting. Normally the key combo is
shown on the screen at booting, but that can be disabled in the BIOS.


73 es GN de Sam, OH0NC

aka Holger

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At times, even on this W-10 machine, I go to the C:\ and give it
some DOS command. I randomly go to Safe mode and do the same.

Very often that is a much faster way to get things done, than to chase HG>that rat on the screen to different "stations".

At the moment, my Lenovo has a bug, Intel Agent is controlling the HG>JP> booting and after so many years, I forgot how to disable it. It came HG>JP> back active as I thought that I had to re-flash the BIOS. Shoot !

The first place to look for it, would of course be in the BIOS.
IIRC you get there by pressing F1 at booting. Normally the key combo is HG>shown on the screen at booting, but that can be disabled in the BIOS.

73 es GN de Sam, OH0NC

aka Holger

Teh BIOS setup varies widely. My home built with an Asus MB uses F2
the HP Lsptop uses Esc and some uses Del are the ones I recall
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In a message on Thursday 02-02-16 Tom Walker said to Holger Granholm:

GE Tom,

At the moment, my Lenovo has a bug, Intel Agent is controlling the HG>JP> booting and after so many years, I forgot how to disable it.

The first place to look for it, would of course be in the BIOS.
IIRC you get there by pressing F1 at booting. Normally the key combo is HG>shown on the screen at booting, but that can be disabled in the BIOS.

OTOH, I don't know the Intel Agent.

Teh BIOS setup varies widely. My home built with an Asus MB uses F2
the HP Lsptop uses Esc and some uses Del are the ones I recall

Yes, I know. My Dell laptop wants F12 to let me into the BIOS.


CU L8ER, Sam, OH0NC

aka Holger

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In a message on Thursday 02-11-16 Jean Parrot said to Holger Granholm:

GM Jean,

or should I say GN, because of the time stamp of your msg?

Did you finally get the language changed ?

No, not yet, but for all programmes I have installed I've chosen english
and that works OK. As far as possible, I have installed most programs in another partition than C: but some, for example Opera doesn't give me
that choice, but insists on installing only to C:.

Today I will take a deep dive with my file manager, to try to find out
if the US-english package is included. It should be about the same size
as the swedish language package.

If not, I'll have to import it. That's what people tell me to do.
I can't ask my GS because he had a colleague to upgrade the machine.

There's also another problem that I may have to get help with.
The machine still insists that my GS has an account, and doesn't allow
me to create a folder for "downloaded files", under my name.

Of course I have set my account to be ADMIN, but apparently my GS's
account is above me, :o(

The Intel Agent has quit giving me a hard time, nothing that I did,
for sure. The BIOS is now accessible and it presents a hot-key combo
to go to it but it does not get there.

Excuse me but I don't know the Intel Agent, and what it's supposed to do Regarding the access to the BIOS in the laptop, I did find the key to
get into it, and change settings.

I will forget all about it and go my merry way. I can select a
different booting device and and go my merry way and that is handy
when I need to load Acronis to clone this machine.

I was far-sighted enough to make a recovery USB stick before I started
playing with the laptop. Even though TI9 refuses to run under Win10, the recovery stick can be used to make a clone with the Macrium Reflect Free program.

For normal backups I use the EASEUS backup program. That recovery stick
is 8Gb but for a full backup (without compression) of C:, I need 20 Gb
today.


CU L8ER, Sam, OH0NC

aka Holger

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In a message on Saturday 02-11-16 Jean Parrot said to Holger Granholm:

Hi Jean,

Did you finally get the language changed ?

No, not yet ;o()

The past three days I have spent with the filemanager, missing news/wx
and sports programmes on the tele, to try to find out if the english,
(US or GB), language package can be found on the HD. No dice ;o(

Neither did I find a swedish package, but nevertheless windows writes to
me in swedish, except the programs that I have installed myself, where I
have chosen english for the language, but even FileZilla (a FTP pgm) has
those language files.

That is a pgm I have installed and chosen english as the language at the installation.

The directory tree for windows on the 25 GB boot partitions is ENORMOUS.
Huge is too small a word for the size.

On my sifting through the directory tree, I found 56 language files for
various windows functions and programs, each function or program having
their own choice of language file.

On my way, I have deleted unnecessary files, since I don't intend to
learn all those languages from albanian to zulu, hi.

Maybe change of language is made through a command that is issued by
Windows early in the booting process, choosing the language that the
user has chosen, for each pgm/funct in use. That may be the reason for
the many language files tied to most (not all) pgms, and the missing
language package for the language presently used.

That would be an easy way to change the op.sys to the wanted language.

You did recommend me to choose the US english and I have that as a
second choice, after GB-en. For the keyboard I have set the swedish, but
by Win-Space the choice can be changed to any secondary keybd-

Next step is an internet hook-up to M$ to have the language changed.


CU L8ER, Sam, OH0NC

aka Holger

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Holger, GM OM. Yes, it is still GM here at -28.9 ° C. Brrr !

Obtaining a 2nd hand machine always leads to problems of sorts. Cleaning it up
of redundant files, loaded by a non educated user is the problem.

In your case, can I suggest to first make a clone of it all, then go to that
little start window on the left of the taskbar, one click on it -> Settings -> Update & Recovery -> Recovery -> Reset this PC.

This will do the job in one swoop. It will reset it all to a blank W-10 OS
machine, you might even get the choice of language, worth a try ! Read all the instructions as they are presented to you, there are many a choice to pick. Do anything to the machine, you have a clone ! Not ?

Remember that a clone will allow you to, after the fact, move any file/folder
back from clone to main machine. I abuse this privilege all the time, even from
clone to another machine, not the source.

We are having fun ! All fine wishes.

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In a message on Monday 02-15-16 Jean Parrot said to Holger Granholm:

Holger, GM OM. Yes, it is still GM here at -28.9 ° C. Brrr !

GM Jean OC. It's morning here too at -5°C. We have had a quite mild
winter so far this year. Only in week 1 we had three days with -10 to
-15°C. Other than that the, temperature has hovered at single figures
above and below freezing.

Weeks two and three brought 40 cm of snow. The sad thing is that my car
wasn't usable, to go to the ski center, because the AC blower ceased to
work, and as you know, driving a car without a blower to keep the inside
of the windscreen free from frost in the winter, results in having to
stop every few hundred meters to scrape it off.

The reason the blower fix was complicated, by the trouble to find a replacement. That ended by replacing the motor only, in the old housing.

The snow we had has disappeared, and been replaced with a centimeter of
white fluff, that started as sleet last week.

Obtaining a 2nd hand machine always leads to problems of sorts. Cleaning it up of redundant files, loaded by a non educated user is
the problem.

It has been noted :o)

In your case, can I suggest to first make a clone of it all, then
go to that little start window on the left of the taskbar, one click
on it -> Settings -> Update & Recovery -> Recovery -> Reset this PC.

That would have been the best choice, but with the exception of a few
things. First, I didn't know the various back-up and cloning programs to
use. I did recall a discussion with OM Tom about a cloning program that
happily made a clone, but wasn't able to recover it, if not registered.

Before doing anything with the machine i made a recovery file on a a 8Gb
USB stick.

I had the Acronis TI9 for my XP laptop, but it refused to work in Win10.
On magazine CD's I had the Easeus and Macrium programs. I installed the
Easeus programmes and made a full backup of the HD, but didn't risk to
make a clone, with unknown replacement function.

Break........

Now, at 11:25 it's only -0.5°C and the sun is coming through the mist.

This will do the job in one swoop. It will reset it all to a blank
W-10 OS machine, you might even get the choice of language, worth a
try ! Read all the instructions as they are presented to you, there
are many a choice to pick. Do anything to the machine, you have a
clone ! Not ?

All this would have been good to have known, B4 installing all the
programs I'm going to use. They were all installed to another partition
than the boot prtn, except Opera that refused to install on anything
else than C: .

After that I made a new backup, ran Cclean, downloaded the en-UK package
from M$ and let it be installed as per choice, made on screen B4 dwnld.

Still, the machine does talk to me mainly in swedish, except for the
opening screen showing the weather and other choices in english.

But the choices offered on the left when clicking on the lower left icon
are still in swedish.

Next step will probably be to let M$ install the en-US package and see
if it would also change the "display language" to english, under the "Settings/country/language/time and ..." choices. Since I removed the
swedish language alternative, that is still missing in the en-UK choice.

Remember that a clone will allow you to, after the fact, move any file/folder back from clone to main machine. I abuse this privilege
all the time, even from clone to another machine, not the source.

Yes, that's what I would have done if my reegistered TI9 would have
worked under W10.

We are having fun ! All fine wishes.

Yes, we are. Same to you.

CU AGN,

Holger

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