Subject: when task manager is running in the system tray bug
From: Black Baptist <pray@the.church.com>

If task manager is running in the system tray and I eject a thumb or
partable drive windows won't release the drive. Windows 10 X64

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From: John Doe <always.look@message.header>
Subject: Re: when task manager is running in the system tray bug

Black Baptist <pray@the.church.com> wrote:

If task manager is running in the system tray and I eject a
thumb or partable drive windows won't release the drive.
Windows 10 X64

I do not see the problem. What do you mean by "windows won't
release the drive"? And how is that a problem?

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From: John Doe <always.look@message.header>
Subject: Re: when task manager is running in the system tray bug

John Doe <always.look@message.header> wrote:

Black Baptist <pray@the.church.com> wrote:

If task manager is running in the system tray and I eject a
thumb or partable drive windows won't release the drive.
Windows 10 X64

I do not see the problem. What do you mean by "windows won't
release the drive"? And how is that a problem?

And by the way... How can you eject a thumb drive? Does it shoot
out of the USB port?

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From: Paul <nospam@needed.invalid>
Subject: Re: when task manager is running in the system tray bug

John Doe wrote:

John Doe <always.look@message.header> wrote:

Black Baptist <pray@the.church.com> wrote:

If task manager is running in the system tray and I eject a
thumb or partable drive windows won't release the drive.
Windows 10 X64

I do not see the problem. What do you mean by "windows won't
release the drive"? And how is that a problem?

And by the way... How can you eject a thumb drive? Does it shoot
out of the USB port?

In the Notification area, is a "Safely Remove" icon for USB
flash sticks.

It can dismount all the partitions on a plugged-in device,
which causes the OS to do the equivalent of flush() and sync(),
so that no cache on the OS has any of your files. On some
Windows OSes, the Safely Remove operation causes the LED to
go out on the USB flash stick. Which is an indication there
is a state change. It is then safe to remove/unplug the stick.

If you look at the Safely Remove icon and its built-in menu,
even SATA drives, the drive containing C: will be listed.
This happens if the controller port is in AHCI mode,
and supports HotPlug. However, as soon as files like
"pagefile.sys" indicate they are busy, the attempt to
eject C: will fail. You cannot Safely Remove C: because
of the busy files on it.

As for why the Task Manager would actually have a handle
on a data disk, that's a mystery. There is a thing called
NTFS TXF (transaction oriented NTFS, which supports atomic
file operations), and it causes data disks to remain busy.
You might find a handle owned by "System, PID 4" for example,
and attempts to get a program name lead no-where. In such a
case, you cannot correlate what end-user software is
using TXF, and figure out why some media cannot be
unmounted.

The Sysinternals handle.exe program, can give details
on things with open handles. But in tough cases, only
using Disk Management and putting a disk in "Offline"
state, will cause it to be released. If it won't respond
to Offline either, then there might well be an identifiable
handle and source program doing it. Using handle.exe, or
using Process Explorer (sysinternals.com) and the
handle facility built into it, you can check whether
there is an easy answer or not.

Taskeng has no reason itself, to be examining any files.
There's no guarantee Handle.exe will be allowed to tell you
stuff about Taskeng. My lesson with TXF tells me that
certain "features" of the OS, cannot be debugged by mere
end-users.

Paul

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From: "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com>
Subject: Re: when task manager is running in the system tray bug

On Sun, 01 Jan 2017 23:16:33 -0000, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

John Doe wrote:

John Doe <always.look@message.header> wrote:

Black Baptist <pray@the.church.com> wrote:

If task manager is running in the system tray and I eject a
thumb or partable drive windows won't release the drive.
Windows 10 X64

I do not see the problem. What do you mean by "windows won't
release the drive"? And how is that a problem?

And by the way... How can you eject a thumb drive? Does it shoot
out of the USB port?

In the Notification area, is a "Safely Remove" icon for USB
flash sticks.

I don't bother with that. You had to do it with XP (as it delayed writing), bu t with later Windowses, just wait still it stops flashing, then pull it out.

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Why don't niggers dream?
The last one to have a dream got shot.

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From: John Doe <always.look@message.header>
Subject: Re: when task manager is running in the system tray bug

"James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> wrote:

Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:

John Doe wrote:

John Doe <always.look@message.header> wrote:

Black Baptist <pray@the.church.com> wrote:

If task manager is running in the system tray and I
eject a thumb or partable drive windows won't release
the drive. Windows 10 X64

I do not see the problem. What do you mean by "windows
won't release the drive"? And how is that a problem?

And by the way... How can you eject a thumb drive? Does
it shoot out of the USB port?

In the Notification area, is a "Safely Remove" icon for
USB flash sticks.

I don't bother with that. You had to do it with XP (as it
delayed writing), but with later Windowses, just wait still
it stops flashing, then pull it out.

I have had no problem removing a flash drive since Windows
XP. Not sure if ever, really. I do wait until my operation is
completed. Otherwise, nowadays it is no concern. I too pay
attention to the flashing light, in addition to making sure I
am not doing anything with the thumb drive. If it is booting,
that is a good time to pay attention to the light. But if it
is just being used for data, knowing that the operation has
completed seems to be plenty.

Occasionally I have looked at the system/notification tray
icon, for what it is worth.

Nowadays, the OS probably takes care of it for us. It certainly
should.

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