• any outlook 2007 users here?

    From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to All on Sunday, February 05, 2023 17:03:00
    I've been having trouble configuring Outlook email (MS Outlook
    2007) to use port 995 and SSL for pop3 incoming. It seems that
    only port 110 and non-SSL works.

    Sending, smtp + 465 + SSL is ok.

    Thunderbird mail works fine with pop3/SSL/995 and smtp/SSL/465.

    So.. why is Outlook not cooperating with pop3/SSL/995?

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  • From Stephen Walsh@3:633/280 to August Abolins on Monday, February 06, 2023 12:55:40

    Hello August!

    05 Feb 23 17:03, you wrote to all:

    I've been having trouble configuring Outlook email (MS Outlook
    2007) to use port 995 and SSL for pop3 incoming. It seems that
    only port 110 and non-SSL works.

    Sending, smtp + 465 + SSL is ok.

    Thunderbird mail works fine with pop3/SSL/995 and smtp/SSL/465.

    So.. why is Outlook not cooperating with pop3/SSL/995?

    Best way is not to use outlook directly, but go

    controll panell > Mail and then set the functions from there into the advanced (From memorey).

    That will let you set the SSL and Ports.



    Stephen


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  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Stephen Walsh on Sunday, February 05, 2023 21:33:00
    Hello Stephen!

    So.. why is Outlook not cooperating with pop3/SSL/995?

    Best way is not to use outlook directly, but go

    controll panell > Mail and then set the functions from there into the advanced (From memorey).

    That will let you set the SSL and Ports.

    I didn't realize that I could access the mail properties thru ControlPanel/Mail. Thx.

    But using ControlPane/Mail shows exactly the same Settings
    menus that Outlook does.

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  • From Stephen Walsh@3:633/280 to August Abolins on Monday, February 06, 2023 22:03:04

    Hello August!

    05 Feb 23 21:33, you wrote to me:

    So.. why is Outlook not cooperating with pop3/SSL/995?

    Best way is not to use outlook directly, but go

    controll panell > Mail and then set the functions from there into
    the advanced (From memorey).

    That will let you set the SSL and Ports.

    I didn't realize that I could access the mail properties thru ControlPanel/Mail. Thx.

    But using ControlPane/Mail shows exactly the same Settings
    menus that Outlook does.

    I've just now been able to get access to one. These steps are still current even upto O365.

    Goto Control Panel (NOT pane), Mail (Microsoft Outlook),
    Click on "Email Accounts", Highlight the email address,
    Click on "Change" (3rd option. It's on the bar with new/repair etc.)
    On the window that opens, down in the lower right is "More Settings",
    Click on that.
    Click the "Advanced" Tab.

    You now have access to the important bits...

    Incomming Pop3 port: (995)
    This server requires an encrpted connection. (SSL/TLS)

    Outgoing server (SMTP) Port: 465
    Use the following type of encrypted connection:
    None, SSL/TLS, StartTLS, Auto







    Stephen


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  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Stephen Walsh on Monday, February 06, 2023 07:52:00
    Hello Stephen!

    I've just now been able to get access to one. These steps
    are still current even upto O365.

    [...]

    Click the "Advanced" Tab.

    You now have access to the important bits...

    Incomming Pop3 port: (995)
    This server requires an encrpted connection. (SSL/TLS)

    Outgoing server (SMTP) Port: 465
    Use the following type of encrypted connection:
    None, SSL/TLS, StartTLS, Auto

    Thanks for checking!

    I followed the same steps. (Btw, the exactly the *same* config
    destination is provided within Outlook 2007.)

    Still, pulling in mail (pop3) still doesn't work when I enable
    SSL + 995. It only comes in when I untick the SSL, but leaving
    port 995 is still ok.

    However.. there are no problems when I use an old Thunderbird
    with pop3 = SSL/995 and smtp = SSL/495.


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  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Stephen Walsh on Monday, February 06, 2023 07:53:00
    Still, pulling in mail (pop3) still doesn't work when I enable
    SSL + 995. It only comes in when I untick the SSL, but leaving
    port 995 is still ok.

    Correction.. the config automatically selects port 110 when
    the SSL is unticked.

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  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Stephen Walsh on Monday, February 06, 2023 10:11:00
    Hello Stephen!

    You now have access to the important bits...

    Incomming Pop3 port: (995)
    This server requires an encrpted connection. (SSL/TLS)

    Outgoing server (SMTP) Port: 465
    Use the following type of encrypted connection:
    None, SSL/TLS, StartTLS, Auto

    When I configure for this:

    https://kolico.ca/tmp/eee1-2302.jpg

    ..this happens during pop3:

    https://kolico.ca/tmp/eee2-2302.jpg

    Sending, smtp, is fine though.


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  • From Stephen Walsh@3:633/280 to August Abolins on Tuesday, February 07, 2023 10:24:26

    Hello August!

    06 Feb 23 10:11, you wrote to me:

    Incomming Pop3 port: (995)
    This server requires an encrpted connection. (SSL/TLS)

    Outgoing server (SMTP) Port: 465
    Use the following type of encrypted connection:
    None, SSL/TLS, StartTLS, Auto

    When I configure for this:

    https://kolico.ca/tmp/eee1-2302.jpg

    Your provider might be using a different port. Have you had a look on there website for that information?

    It seams weird that they support an encrypted sending connection, but not for receiving.



    Stephen


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  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Stephen Walsh on Monday, February 06, 2023 19:35:00
    Hello Stephen!

    https://kolico.ca/tmp/eee1-2302.jpg

    Your provider might be using a different port. Have you
    had a look on there website for that information?

    Yep. They even have specific steps for different versions of
    Outlook all the way back to Outlook 2000. But all of them
    essentially document pop3/995/SSL and smtp/465/SSL.

    I did some testinging and the smtp stamps the header with
    "esmtp". So, at least the sent messages are using the newer
    protocal when smtp/465/SSL is configured.

    However.. the login creds are probably still in the clear. :(


    It seams weird that they support an encrypted sending
    connection, but not for receiving.

    Yep. From further reading on this matter, one tech article that
    I found mentions that it seems to be an issue addressed by
    Microsoft Knowledge Base articles 315049 and 304008:

    https://support.tigertech.net/outlook-2007-ssl

    ..but the links for the article do not go to specific
    articles.

    So.. something is definately broken in Outlook or even XP
    itself.

    Perhaps I can try a newer Outlook 200x that will still work
    with XP.

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