Hello All!

The BACKBONE.NO is back!

Check your filebases!

Contains list of dead echoes.

==
Ross
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Hello Ross.

The BACKBONE.NO is back!
Check your filebases!
Contains list of dead echoes.

4DOS, ITALIANO and USR_MODEMS were required to remove from distribution
systems (including this echo and echolist) 3 months ago:

Echolist Announcement ...

ITALIANO
Italians do it better
A place to meet and chat about Italian history, society
and culture, open to the Italian-origin communities worldwide.
The official language is Italian but English posts are tolerated.
(dead area with zero msgs in +1year, please remove from
your setup, or let me know if you want to adopt and revive
it)
Status: Active
Origin: Group: FIDO
Distribution: NONE, PLEASE REMOVE FROM YOUR SETUP
Gateways:
Language: Italian, English
# Nodes: N/A Volume: N/A Rules:
Flags:
Notes:
Moderators: Renato Zambon, 4:801/161, rczambon@sili.com.br
Steve Quarrella, 1:393/9005, fishpope@iname.com

USR_MODEMS
US Robotics Modems Echo
Technical discussion of the US Robotics family of modems.
(dead area with zero msgs in +1year, please remove from
your setup, or let me know if you want to adopt and revive
it)
Status: Active
Origin: Group: FIDO
Distribution: NONE, PLEASE REMOVE FROM YOUR SETUP
Gateways:
Language: English
# Nodes: N/A Volume: N/A Rules:
Flags: <Real Names Only>
Notes: /REAl
Moderators: Renato Zambon, 4:801/161, rczambon@sili.com.br

4DOS
4DOS Support Echo
Forum for discussion of the JPSoft family of software,
including 4DOS, 4OS2, 4NT. (dead area with zero msgs in
+1year, please remove from your setup, or let me know if
you want to adopt and revive it)
Status: Active
Origin: Group: FIDO
Distribution: NONE, PLEASE REMOVE FROM YOUR SETUP
Gateways:
Language: English
# Nodes: N/A Volume: N/A Rules:
Flags: <Real Names Only>
Notes: /REAL
Moderators: Renato Zambon, 4:801/161, rczambon@sili.com.br

[]s
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The BACKBONE.NO is back!
Check your filebases!
Contains list of dead echoes.

4DOS, ITALIANO and USR_MODEMS were required to remove from
distribution systems (including this echo and echolist) 3 months
ago:

Echolist Announcement ...

sadly, an echolist entry doesn't count :( there was nothing posted in those echos or in any of the available mail backbone echos like this one and the one for the wwb...

)\/(ark


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Hello mark.

4DOS, ITALIANO and USR_MODEMS were required to remove from

sadly, an echolist entry doesn't count :( there was nothing
posted in those echos or in any of the available mail backbone
echos like this one and the one for the wwb...

A request to remove was sent at the same time to z1_backbone,
z1backbone (seems it doesn't exist anymore), wwb_tech and the
echolist. These 3 echos (like many others) had zero msgs in
more than one year.

The WWB.SYSOP.DRUNK had been also removed from WWB on Jun/07.

[]s
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4DOS, ITALIANO and USR_MODEMS were required to remove from

sadly, an echolist entry doesn't count :( there was nothing
posted in those echos or in any of the available mail backbone
echos like this one and the one for the wwb...

A request to remove was sent at the same time to z1_backbone,
z1backbone (seems it doesn't exist anymore),

right, it went the way of the dodo bird when others left the network and/or quieted down and found something else to stir up...

wwb_tech and the echolist. These 3 echos (like many others) had
zero msgs in more than one year.

i understand... however, my point is that even posting in those areas only removes them from those backbone lists... there is no real way to have them removed from all bbs' in fidonet...

there was a method available but not all software supported it and many operators wouldn't enable it... this method allowed a "top" or "central" "authority" to send areafix messages creating new areas as well as renaming them and/or removing them... if everyone enabled these cabailities in their software, then there wouldn't be all the dead and empty echos still floating around... the problem is/was getting folk to relenquish some control of their system and allow others to manage certain parts of it...

)\/(ark


* Origin: (1:3634/12)

i understand... however, my point is that even posting in those
areas only removes them from those backbone lists... there is
no real way to have them removed from all bbs' in fidonet...

Yes, this is true...

there was a method available but not all software supported it and
many operators wouldn't enable it... this method allowed a "top" or "central" "authority" to send areafix messages creating new areas as
well as renaming them and/or removing them... if everyone enabled
these cabailities in their software, then there wouldn't be all the
dead and empty echos still floating around... the problem is/was
getting folk to relenquish some control of their system and allow
others to manage certain parts of it...

Always used FastEcho here also :-) autocreate to some nodes ok,
but never activate that option to allow delete, delete manually
only.

[]s
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there was a method available but not all software supported it and
many operators wouldn't enable it... this method allowed a "top" or "central" "authority" to send areafix messages creating new areas as
well as renaming them and/or removing them... if everyone enabled
these cabailities in their software, then there wouldn't be all the
dead and empty echos still floating around... the problem is/was
getting folk to relenquish some control of their system and allow
others to manage certain parts of it...

Always used FastEcho here also :-)

8)


)\/(ark


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Ross Cassell (1:123/456) wrote to All at 18:27 on 17 Sep 2007:

The BACKBONE.NO is back!

Where, Ross? I can't access the one on filegate.net.

Check your filebases!

Contains list of dead echoes.

Take care,

Steven Horn (steven.horn@northwestel.net)
Moderator, ALASKA_CHAT
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In a reply from Steven Horn on 23:46 about BACKBONE.NO

The BACKBONE.NO is back!

Where, Ross? I can't access the one on filegate.net.

Check your filebases!

Contains list of dead echoes.

http://www.filegate.net/backbone/backbone.no

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Hi Steven,

The BACKBONE.NO is back!

Where, Ross? I can't access the one on filegate.net.

Check your filebases!

Contains list of dead echoes.

Sorry :( The page is updated now..

http://www.filegate.net/backbone/backbone.na http://www.filegate.net/backbone/backbone.no

or via ftp:

filegate.net:2121 (port 2121 is used instead of port 21) Username: anonymous Password: 'your-email-address'

Take care,
Janis

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Janis Kracht wrote in a message to Steven Horn:

The BACKBONE.NO is back!

Where, Ross? I can't access the one on filegate.net.

Check your filebases!

I have one here dated 9/17/2007. Quite a few dead soldiers there for echoes. kinda disappointing on a few of those. THought there'd be some happening discussion in a few.

Regards,
Richard
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Robert E Starr JR (1:14/400) wrote to Steven Horn at 12:23 on 20 Sep 2007:

RESJ> http://www.filegate.net/backbone/backbone.no

I had no trouble with finding that but couldn't open the archive. However, Roger Nelson emailed me a copy.

Take care,

Steven Horn (steven.horn@northwestel.net)
Moderator, ALASKA_CHAT
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Janis Kracht (1:261/38) wrote to Steven Horn at 15:09 on 20 Sep 2007:

Sorry :( The page is updated now..

http://www.filegate.net/backbone/backbone.na http://www.filegate.net/backbone/backbone.no

or via ftp:

Janis, this time I could open both archives. I was pleased to see that nothing
I had moderatedwas in backbone.no and that the one echo I do moderate is in backbone.na

Take care,

Steven Horn (steven.horn@northwestel.net)
Moderator, ALASKA_CHAT
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In a reply from Steven Horn on 22:47 about BACKBONE.NO

RESJ> http://www.filegate.net/backbone/backbone.no

I had no trouble with finding that but couldn't open the archive.

use notepad or edit

However, Roger Nelson emailed me a copy.

ok

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