• BACKBONE.NO

    From Ross Cassell@1:123/456 to All on Monday, September 17, 2007 18:27:44
    Hello All!

    The BACKBONE.NO is back!

    Check your filebases!

    Contains list of dead echoes.

    ==
    Ross
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  • From Renato Zambon@4:801/161 to Ross Cassell on Tuesday, September 18, 2007 09:20:22
    Hello Ross.

    The BACKBONE.NO is back!
    Check your filebases!
    Contains list of dead echoes.

    4DOS, ITALIANO and USR_MODEMS were required to remove from distribution
    systems (including this echo and echolist) 3 months ago:

    Echolist Announcement ...

    ITALIANO
    Italians do it better
    A place to meet and chat about Italian history, society
    and culture, open to the Italian-origin communities worldwide.
    The official language is Italian but English posts are tolerated.
    (dead area with zero msgs in +1year, please remove from
    your setup, or let me know if you want to adopt and revive
    it)
    Status: Active
    Origin: Group: FIDO
    Distribution: NONE, PLEASE REMOVE FROM YOUR SETUP
    Gateways:
    Language: Italian, English
    # Nodes: N/A Volume: N/A Rules:
    Flags:
    Notes:
    Moderators: Renato Zambon, 4:801/161, rczambon@sili.com.br
    Steve Quarrella, 1:393/9005, fishpope@iname.com

    USR_MODEMS
    US Robotics Modems Echo
    Technical discussion of the US Robotics family of modems.
    (dead area with zero msgs in +1year, please remove from
    your setup, or let me know if you want to adopt and revive
    it)
    Status: Active
    Origin: Group: FIDO
    Distribution: NONE, PLEASE REMOVE FROM YOUR SETUP
    Gateways:
    Language: English
    # Nodes: N/A Volume: N/A Rules:
    Flags: <Real Names Only>
    Notes: /REAl
    Moderators: Renato Zambon, 4:801/161, rczambon@sili.com.br

    4DOS
    4DOS Support Echo
    Forum for discussion of the JPSoft family of software,
    including 4DOS, 4OS2, 4NT. (dead area with zero msgs in
    +1year, please remove from your setup, or let me know if
    you want to adopt and revive it)
    Status: Active
    Origin: Group: FIDO
    Distribution: NONE, PLEASE REMOVE FROM YOUR SETUP
    Gateways:
    Language: English
    # Nodes: N/A Volume: N/A Rules:
    Flags: <Real Names Only>
    Notes: /REAL
    Moderators: Renato Zambon, 4:801/161, rczambon@sili.com.br

    []s
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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12 to Renato Zambon on Tuesday, September 18, 2007 17:30:26

    The BACKBONE.NO is back!
    Check your filebases!
    Contains list of dead echoes.

    4DOS, ITALIANO and USR_MODEMS were required to remove from
    distribution systems (including this echo and echolist) 3 months
    ago:

    Echolist Announcement ...

    sadly, an echolist entry doesn't count :( there was nothing posted in those echos or in any of the available mail backbone echos like this one and the one for the wwb...

    )\/(ark


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  • From Renato Zambon@4:801/161 to mark lewis on Tuesday, September 18, 2007 22:06:26
    Hello mark.

    4DOS, ITALIANO and USR_MODEMS were required to remove from
    sadly, an echolist entry doesn't count :( there was nothing
    posted in those echos or in any of the available mail backbone
    echos like this one and the one for the wwb...

    A request to remove was sent at the same time to z1_backbone,
    z1backbone (seems it doesn't exist anymore), wwb_tech and the
    echolist. These 3 echos (like many others) had zero msgs in
    more than one year.

    The WWB.SYSOP.DRUNK had been also removed from WWB on Jun/07.

    []s
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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12 to Renato Zambon on Wednesday, September 19, 2007 14:16:17

    4DOS, ITALIANO and USR_MODEMS were required to remove from

    sadly, an echolist entry doesn't count :( there was nothing
    posted in those echos or in any of the available mail backbone
    echos like this one and the one for the wwb...

    A request to remove was sent at the same time to z1_backbone,
    z1backbone (seems it doesn't exist anymore),

    right, it went the way of the dodo bird when others left the network and/or quieted down and found something else to stir up...

    wwb_tech and the echolist. These 3 echos (like many others) had
    zero msgs in more than one year.

    i understand... however, my point is that even posting in those areas only removes them from those backbone lists... there is no real way to have them removed from all bbs' in fidonet...

    there was a method available but not all software supported it and many operators wouldn't enable it... this method allowed a "top" or "central" "authority" to send areafix messages creating new areas as well as renaming them and/or removing them... if everyone enabled these cabailities in their software, then there wouldn't be all the dead and empty echos still floating around... the problem is/was getting folk to relenquish some control of their system and allow others to manage certain parts of it...

    )\/(ark


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  • From Renato Zambon@4:801/161 to mark lewis on Wednesday, September 19, 2007 19:48:22
    i understand... however, my point is that even posting in those
    areas only removes them from those backbone lists... there is
    no real way to have them removed from all bbs' in fidonet...

    Yes, this is true...

    there was a method available but not all software supported it and
    many operators wouldn't enable it... this method allowed a "top" or "central" "authority" to send areafix messages creating new areas as
    well as renaming them and/or removing them... if everyone enabled
    these cabailities in their software, then there wouldn't be all the
    dead and empty echos still floating around... the problem is/was
    getting folk to relenquish some control of their system and allow
    others to manage certain parts of it...

    Always used FastEcho here also :-) autocreate to some nodes ok,
    but never activate that option to allow delete, delete manually
    only.

    []s
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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12 to Renato Zambon on Wednesday, September 19, 2007 22:51:38

    there was a method available but not all software supported it and
    many operators wouldn't enable it... this method allowed a "top" or "central" "authority" to send areafix messages creating new areas as
    well as renaming them and/or removing them... if everyone enabled
    these cabailities in their software, then there wouldn't be all the
    dead and empty echos still floating around... the problem is/was
    getting folk to relenquish some control of their system and allow
    others to manage certain parts of it...

    Always used FastEcho here also :-)

    8)


    )\/(ark


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  • From Steven Horn@1:17/67 to Ross Cassell on Wednesday, September 19, 2007 23:46:10
    Ross Cassell (1:123/456) wrote to All at 18:27 on 17 Sep 2007:

    The BACKBONE.NO is back!

    Where, Ross? I can't access the one on filegate.net.

    Check your filebases!

    Contains list of dead echoes.

    Take care,

    Steven Horn (steven.horn@northwestel.net)
    Moderator, ALASKA_CHAT
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  • From Robert E Starr JR@1:14/400 to Steven Horn on Thursday, September 20, 2007 12:23:00
    In a reply from Steven Horn on 23:46 about BACKBONE.NO

    The BACKBONE.NO is back!

    Where, Ross? I can't access the one on filegate.net.

    Check your filebases!

    Contains list of dead echoes.

    http://www.filegate.net/backbone/backbone.no

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  • From Janis Kracht@1:261/38 to Steven Horn on Thursday, September 20, 2007 15:09:06
    Hi Steven,

    The BACKBONE.NO is back!

    Where, Ross? I can't access the one on filegate.net.

    Check your filebases!

    Contains list of dead echoes.

    Sorry :( The page is updated now..

    http://www.filegate.net/backbone/backbone.na http://www.filegate.net/backbone/backbone.no

    or via ftp:

    filegate.net:2121 (port 2121 is used instead of port 21) Username: anonymous Password: 'your-email-address'

    Take care,
    Janis

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  • From Richard Webb@1:116/901 to Janis Kracht on Sunday, September 23, 2007 03:56:54
    Janis Kracht wrote in a message to Steven Horn:

    The BACKBONE.NO is back!

    Where, Ross? I can't access the one on filegate.net.

    Check your filebases!

    I have one here dated 9/17/2007. Quite a few dead soldiers there for echoes. kinda disappointing on a few of those. THought there'd be some happening discussion in a few.

    Regards,
    Richard
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  • From Steven Horn@1:17/67 to Robert E Starr JR on Saturday, September 22, 2007 22:47:07
    Robert E Starr JR (1:14/400) wrote to Steven Horn at 12:23 on 20 Sep 2007:

    RESJ> http://www.filegate.net/backbone/backbone.no

    I had no trouble with finding that but couldn't open the archive. However, Roger Nelson emailed me a copy.

    Take care,

    Steven Horn (steven.horn@northwestel.net)
    Moderator, ALASKA_CHAT
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    * Origin: North_of_60, Whitehorse, Yukon (1:17/67)
  • From Steven Horn@1:17/67 to Janis Kracht on Saturday, September 22, 2007 22:55:51
    Janis Kracht (1:261/38) wrote to Steven Horn at 15:09 on 20 Sep 2007:

    Sorry :( The page is updated now..

    http://www.filegate.net/backbone/backbone.na http://www.filegate.net/backbone/backbone.no

    or via ftp:

    Janis, this time I could open both archives. I was pleased to see that nothing
    I had moderatedwas in backbone.no and that the one echo I do moderate is in backbone.na

    Take care,

    Steven Horn (steven.horn@northwestel.net)
    Moderator, ALASKA_CHAT
    --- timEd/386 1.10.y2k+
    * Origin: North_of_60, Whitehorse, Yukon (1:17/67)
  • From Robert E Starr JR@1:14/400 to Steven Horn on Sunday, September 23, 2007 11:49:00
    In a reply from Steven Horn on 22:47 about BACKBONE.NO

    RESJ> http://www.filegate.net/backbone/backbone.no

    I had no trouble with finding that but couldn't open the archive.

    use notepad or edit

    However, Roger Nelson emailed me a copy.

    ok

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