This is a test


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This is a test

a test of what, allen? are you spamming dead echos, now? :?

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This is a test

a test of what, allen? are you spamming dead echos, now? :?

Mark, he was having a problem getting his echomail messages to appear in this area through my system, that's all.. :)

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This is a test

and this is a reply :)

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This is a test

a test of what, allen? are you spamming dead echos, now? :?

Mark, he was having a problem getting his echomail messages to appear in this area through my system, that's all.. :)

Well, looks like both your messages got here :)

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This is a test

a test of what, allen? are you spamming dead echos, now? :?

Mark, he was having a problem getting his echomail messages to appear in this area through my system, that's all.. :)

Well, looks like both your messages got here :)

Now to get the Backbone to add my areas <G>

Allen


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Hello Allen!

15 Feb 08 01:44, you wrote to Robert Wolfe:

Now to get the Backbone to add my areas <G>

Will be working on it.

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Hello Allen!

15 Feb 08 01:44, you wrote to Robert Wolfe:

Now to get the Backbone to add my areas <G>

Will be working on it.

Thank you Ross.... (Betcha don't hear that one often enough!)

I really enjoy reading the stats from your system... you do one heck of a good job!

Allen

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Or someone who -loans- their campaign money with expectations to get it back.

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Hello Allen!

15 Feb 08 14:41, you wrote to me:

Thank you Ross.... (Betcha don't hear that one often enough!)

Are all the echoes you recently requested for addition, going to be gated from newsgroups?

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Are all the echoes you recently requested for addition, going to be gated from newsgroups?

Either Newsgroups or Mailing Lists (with moderator permission).

Allen

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Hi Ross,

Thank you Ross.... (Betcha don't hear that one often enough!)

Are all the echoes you recently requested for addition, going to be gated from
newsgroups?

If so, might be interesting to create another list? just a thought..

Take care,
Janis

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Hello Janis!

15 Feb 08 18:54, you wrote to me:

Are all the echoes you recently requested for addition, going to be
gated from newsgroups?

If so, might be interesting to create another list? just a thought..

Thats what I was thinking and the impetus behind the question..

BACKBONE.NA
BACKBONE.INT (Int short for Internet, to imply lists and groups)
BACKBONE.NO

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Ross Cassell wrote:

Hello Janis!

15 Feb 08 18:54, you wrote to me:

Are all the echoes you recently requested for addition, going to be
gated from newsgroups?

If so, might be interesting to create another list? just a thought..

Thats what I was thinking and the impetus behind the question..

BACKBONE.NA
BACKBONE.INT (Int short for Internet, to imply lists and groups)
BACKBONE.NO

Looks good to me.

I am proud to say that only three spam crashed the gate in all areas so
far today... all the stargate and scifi groups are so far spam clean.

Allen
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Ross... would it be easier if I helped maintain the Backbone.int for you?

Allen

Ross Cassell wrote:

Hello Janis!

15 Feb 08 18:54, you wrote to me:

Are all the echoes you recently requested for addition, going to be
gated from newsgroups?

If so, might be interesting to create another list? just a thought..

Thats what I was thinking and the impetus behind the question..

BACKBONE.NA
BACKBONE.INT (Int short for Internet, to imply lists and groups)
BACKBONE.NO

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Hi Ross,

Are all the echoes you recently requested for addition, going to be
gated from newsgroups?

If so, might be interesting to create another list? just a thought..

Thats what I was thinking and the impetus behind the question..

BACKBONE.NA
BACKBONE.INT (Int short for Internet, to imply lists and groups)
BACKBONE.NO

If it were me, I'd let it sit for a while as just listed in BACKBONE.NA... Maybe later break them out? I know there were other echos that were actually gated newsgroups in the past like Science, but that one at least doesn't seem to be gated any longer so someone would have to find "the others" <g>. And this
way, Allen's echos will get listed out publically now so people will see the tagnames.

Take care,
Janis

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Hello Allen!

15 Feb 08 14:41, you wrote to me:

Now to get the Backbone to add my areas <G>

Will be working on it.

Thank you Ross.... (Betcha don't hear that one often enough!)

I really enjoy reading the stats from your system... you do one heck
of a good job!

I am going to pick nits here...

I reviewed the echolist submissions you forwarded here, all of them say direct pickup from you in contrast to adding them to a backbone.

Your echolist submissions imply private distribution as opposed to public distribution.

Therefore I am going to hold off until you can update these listings and clarify?

As you do so, it might be wise to include in the DESCription whether or not that echo is going to be "entangled" with an outside network such as newsgroups?

I believe we will utilize a separate backbone (BACKBONE.INT) to denote echoes such as yours which you seem to be trying to rescue. This will afford systems an ability to distinguish said echoes up to and including avoidance of them for
reasons that have already been expressed.

I await clarification and resubmission of your requests.

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Ross Cassell -> Allen Prunty wrote:

I believe we will utilize a separate backbone (BACKBONE.INT) to denote echoes such as yours which you seem to be trying to rescue. This will afford systems an ability to distinguish said echoes up to and including avoidance of them for reasons that have already been expressed.

I await clarification and resubmission of your requests.

Ross...

I was going to resubmit the ECHOLIST as distributed via the backbone -WHEN- they are distributed by the backbone.

I have at least 5 people waiting on the Stargate Echos for the Backbone distribution.

I have everything ready on my end to submit once I know that they are on the backbone... so I guess you are now forcing my hand to wait until next weeks backnone.na.

If I can get a FIRM confirmation that the echos will be backboned then I will immediately submit my echolist edits.

But as of this moment in time they are not on the backbone therefore not listed
as so.

Do you see it from my end? Or am I, and the other nodes who want the echos, going to be forced to wait another week?

Please advise what you want me to do... I can honestly say there are interested
in the crafts, stargate and lost echos... and I had advised them we are in process of getting them distributed on the backbone.

I'll wait your decision.

Alen

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Ross Cassell -> Allen Prunty wrote:

I am going to pick nits here...

It will be a couple of days before Thom's system picks them up... but everything will be edited to say this... I hope this won't delay distribution any further for these echos. There are some people that are waiting for these.

TAGname BEATLES
TITLe WorldWide Gathering of Beatles Fans from Across the Universe
MODerator Allen Prunty, 1:2320/100
DESC Very active echo discussing all things Beatles... and a
DESC good place to trade memories and collectibles.
VOLume 2500/month
ORIGin 1:2320/100
DISTribution Backbone, EastStar, Direct Pickup
GATEway rec.music.beatles.moderated Filtered

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Hello Allen!

17 Feb 08 18:44, you wrote to me:

I await clarification and resubmission of your requests.

Ross...

I was going to resubmit the ECHOLIST as distributed via the backbone -WHEN- they are distributed by the backbone.

Actually your listings should reflect the intended method when you list them, I
held off because your listings contradicted your request.

What came first, the chicken or the egg?

I have at least 5 people waiting on the Stargate Echos for the
Backbone distribution.

Its not going to be instant even when the files go out.

I have everything ready on my end to submit once I know that they are
on the backbone... so I guess you are now forcing my hand to wait
until next weeks backnone.na.

No you wont have to wait a week, there is no difference between a backbone file
going out on a Sunday versus a monday or any other day.

Its just ascii.

If I can get a FIRM confirmation that the echos will be backboned then
I will immediately submit my echolist edits.

They will be boned and listed in backbone.na, additionally a supplemental file called backbone.int will be hatched to supplement the echoes listings as being entangled with origins/destinations that are outside of Fidonet.

But as of this moment in time they are not on the backbone therefore
not listed as so.

You should have listed them as such as you intended to have them distributed, else I would not have had reason to pause and question you and request clarification, do you see it from my end?

Do you see it from my end? Or am I, and the other nodes who want the echos, going to be forced to wait another week?

See above.

Please advise what you want me to do... I can honestly say there are interested in the crafts, stargate and lost echos... and I had advised them we are in process of getting them distributed on the backbone.

Patience my young padewan.

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ALL edits are submitted... and no distribution tag was filled out on the stargate echos... if you do not backbone anything else PLEASE backbone those.

Allen

Allen Prunty -> Ross Cassell wrote:

Ross Cassell -> Allen Prunty wrote:

I am going to pick nits here...

It will be a couple of days before Thom's system picks them up... but everything will be edited to say this... I hope this won't delay distribution any further for these echos. There are some people that
are waiting for these.

TAGname BEATLES
TITLe WorldWide Gathering of Beatles Fans from Across the Universe MODerator Allen Prunty, 1:2320/100
DESC Very active echo discussing all things Beatles... and a
DESC good place to trade memories and collectibles.
VOLume 2500/month
ORIGin 1:2320/100
DISTribution Backbone, EastStar, Direct Pickup
GATEway rec.music.beatles.moderated Filtered

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Allen Prunty -> Allen Prunty wrote:

ALL edits are submitted... and no distribution tag was filled out on the stargate echos... if you do not backbone anything else PLEASE backbone those.

Allen

You have to excuse me because I'm still in a bit of fog from Cheomotherapy... so that no further nits are picked... the Stargate echos now reflect Backbone, Eaststar, and Direct as the distribution. At the time I posted them there was nothing in the distribution tag.

Ross please help me out... people really have expressed interest in those echos.

Allen

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Hello Allen!

17 Feb 08 19:03, you wrote to me:

I am going to pick nits here...

It will be a couple of days before Thom's system picks them up... but everything will be edited to say this... I hope this won't delay distribution any further for these echos. There are some people that
are waiting for these.

TAGname BEATLES
TITLe WorldWide Gathering of Beatles Fans from Across the Universe MODerator Allen Prunty, 1:2320/100
DESC Very active echo discussing all things Beatles... and a
DESC good place to trade memories and collectibles.
VOLume 2500/month
ORIGin 1:2320/100
DISTribution Backbone, EastStar, Direct Pickup
GATEway rec.music.beatles.moderated Filtered

The Gateway keyword is good, but I was thinking along the lines of this:

DESC This echo is being gated between Newsgroups and Fido.

I think with the concerns expressed to you, all things considered being:

Once dead echo

Issues we have had on both ends of a gating arrangement

Concerns of spam and other things

This could be your way of meeting in the middle.

The backbone isnt requiring this of you, just suggesting.

I am requiring you to change the listing for distribution..

DISTribution Backbone, EastStar, Direct Pickup

The Eastern Star is just one piece of the North American Backbone, while I might be flattered that you consider me worthy of a separate designation, I am as much part of the backbone as the other 3 systems I am meshed with, no system
is greater than the whole.

What I do when I list echoes, to avoid ego bruising is on the DIST keyword I simply specify:

DIST All Backbones

Fairly neutral and generally once the echoes start flowing on the four systems of the NAB, they go on out to others.

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Ross,

I am sure that with this one... there is a lot of learning curve here. I am going to write a GATE-RULE once we get three bots up and running here that will
outline the entire gating process and how a user can help with the spam. As soon as we get the SPAM-Can-Bot, the TROLL-Bot, and the FLAME-Can-Bot up and running users can forward things into the system that will be reviewed and added to the filter.

I don't think that filtering on this scale has ever been attempted on a gateway
before... and I do want everyone to know that everything virus checked, scrubbed, and filtered before they go out... there will be modest rules for the
gateway and will outline everything there I promise.

Ross Cassell -> Allen Prunty wrote:

DESC This echo is being gated between Newsgroups and Fido.

I will further tweak this into an edit that will be submitted next week. I don't want to bombard Thom's robot any more than I already have today... that is a Darned good idea.

I am having a serious Chemo Therapy migraine tonight and have had a terribly rough day... please excuse the grumpiness... I also have to leave... my best friend will be on the Extreme Home Makeover tonight and we are having a party for him. I -may- be in some of the scenes on the show tonight... I tried to avoid the camera as I was recovering from my cancer surgery at the time.

I think with the concerns expressed to you, all things considered being: Once dead echo
Issues we have had on both ends of a gating arrangement
Concerns of spam and other things
This could be your way of meeting in the middle.

The backbone isnt requiring this of you, just suggesting.
I am requiring you to change the listing for distribution..

I will take your wisdom under consideration and promise to do exactly that... I
have e-listed things as "ADOPTABLE" much like your placeholder. I do not want to hold on to these echos forever... I just want people to know that they are up and running.

I really want to see things back to what they once were... and I believe that this old net still has a LOT to offer.

DISTribution Backbone, EastStar, Direct Pickup

The Eastern Star is just one piece of the North American Backbone, while
I might be flattered that you consider me worthy of a separate designation, I am as much part of the backbone as the other 3 systems I
am meshed with, no system is greater than the whole.

Well... like the echos on the echolist you are the one that's visible on the radar screen ... who are these other three stars and who runs them... I did not
mean to slight them in the least... and apologize if I hurt feelings. I have heard Brenda Donovan's name thrown around a couple of times and was overjoyed to hear that she was still around.

What I do when I list echoes, to avoid ego bruising is on the DIST
keyword I simply specify:

DIST All Backbones

That's fair... I promise that they will be updated as such.

Fairly neutral and generally once the echoes start flowing on the four systems of the NAB, they go on out to others.

Take care Ross... and sorry if I've been a bit grumpy today... I've had a rough
day.

Allen

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Ross Cassell -> Allen Prunty wrote:

Actually your listings should reflect the intended method when you list them, I held off because your listings contradicted your request.

What came first, the chicken or the egg?

I had this same go around with Bruce Bodger back in the day... and was going his route... if this is how it is to be ... then this is how I will do it in the future.

I have at least 5 people waiting on the Stargate Echos for the
Backbone distribution.

Its not going to be instant even when the files go out.

As long as it is in the works as promised. When Janis creates her link to you and you have your's here I will start forwarding. I'm quite proud of the Stargate groups... I think that the fans of the show will enjoy them. Both of them have very good filters in place and have not had any spam for days now.

You should have listed them as such as you intended to have them distributed, else I would not have had reason to pause and question you and request clarification, do you see it from my end?

Guess I do now... and I appreciate your flexibility... Bruce made us jump through a lot more hoops back in the day.

Patience my young padewan.

And there will be yet another Starwars movie... that's been confirmed <G>.

Anyhow Extreme Home Makeover is about to start and I'm on my Laptop over here... don't want to slight my friend this is -his- show and I am honored to be here... besides I'm the official popcorn maker tonight.

Please give me a chance to help with the backbone.int since I know exactly where everything is gated from. It's the least that I can do to help out.

Allen

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Hello Ross.

01 Jan 70 00:00, you wrote to Allen Prunty:

Do you see it from my end? Or am I, and the other nodes who want
the echos, going to be forced to wait another week?

See above.

Please advise what you want me to do... I can honestly say there
are interested in the crafts, stargate and lost echos... and I
had advised them we are in process of getting them distributed on
the backbone.

Patience my young padewan.

Pushy sucker, ain't he?


Joe

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Joe Bruchis -> Ross Cassell wrote:

Pushy sucker, ain't he?

I would literally be dead if I wasn't.

Allen

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Replying to a message of Ross Cassell to Janis Kracht:

Hello Janis!

15 Feb 08 18:54, you wrote to me:

Are all the echoes you recently requested for addition, going to be
gated from newsgroups?

If so, might be interesting to create another list? just a thought..

Thats what I was thinking and the impetus behind the question..

BACKBONE.NA
BACKBONE.INT (Int short for Internet, to imply lists and groups)

How about BACKBONE.NG (for newsgroups, of course <g>)
and BACKBONE.LS (for listservs)

BACKBONE.NO

It would be easier to differentiate NGs and LSs that way. My system can
handle most of that but I don't have an Internet connection to it (and am unlikely to get one absent a winning lottery ticket, thus far the only drawback to living out here in the sticks).

--- FleetStreet 1.19+
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Bob Ackley -> Ross Cassell wrote:

How about BACKBONE.NG (for newsgroups, of course <g>)
and BACKBONE.LS (for listservs)

That might be well and good... but the only lists that I gate is a four way gate... it comes in via alt.genealogy and two other genealogy listserves ... and it goes FOUR ways. It would be better to have one file that details all the directions it goes out.

It would be easier to differentiate NGs and LSs that way. My system can handle most of that but I don't have an Internet connection to it (and am unlikely to get one absent a winning lottery ticket, thus far the only drawback to living out here in the sticks).

Bob... I have unlimited long distance... Once I get my POPs line reinstalled I will gladly call and deliver if it would save you some $$

Allen

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GATEway rec.music.beatles.moderated Filtered

errrmmm... this is not what the GATEWAY keyword is supposed to be used for :?

Gateways (GATE) - A text field for the listing of gates to
other zones, nets, domains, etc. (35
characters)

the above entry you have is not the gating system... it is the original newsgroup name... if your system is the gateway then you could list it here... personally, in the areas that i maintain that are gated, i don't do this, IIRC...

you'd be better to list that info in the DESC lines ;)

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Replying to a message of Allen Prunty to Bob Ackley:

It would be easier to differentiate NGs and LSs that way. My system
can handle most of that but I don't have an Internet connection to
it (and am unlikely to get one absent a winning lottery ticket, thus
far the only drawback to living out here in the sticks).

Bob... I have unlimited long distance... Once I get my POPs line reinstalled I will gladly call and deliver if it would save you some
$$

No thanks. I'm quite happy with the feed I get from Jeff Smith. I am *not* happy with Qwest, but I can't do anything about that, they're the only game around - by law, the company in Emerson can't extend their lines the mile
or so from the boundary to my house. Qwest has nearly all of the rural
phones in Iowa and Nebraska - and probably west of the Mississippi and
north of Oklahoma. My house is quite literally at the end of the phone cable, the other end of it is at Qwest's automated switch (there's no office there, just
a little building with the switch in it) in Malvern, IA, about 12 miles away.

--- FleetStreet 1.19+
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Bob Ackley wrote in a message to Allen Prunty:

Bob... I have unlimited long distance... Once I get my POPs line reinstalled I will gladly call and deliver if it would save you some
$$

I have that here as well, one thing I like about Bellsouth over Qwest. YEs I had their service when I was an Iowan as well. WIll be glad when Allen gets his
pots working again <g>. WIll be able to crash netmail him.

No thanks. I'm quite happy with the feed I get from Jeff Smith. I
am *not* happy with Qwest, but I can't do anything about that,
they're the only game around - by law, the company in Emerson can't
extend their lines the mile or so from the boundary to my house.
Qwest has nearly all of the rural phones in Iowa and Nebraska - and probably west of the Mississippi and north of Oklahoma. My house is
quite literally at the end of the phone cable, the other end of it
is at Qwest's automated switch (there's no office there, just
a little building with the switch in it) in Malvern, IA, about 12
miles away.

KNow that feeling. Even if you get into one of the other phone companies, such
as McLeod in eastern Iowa the lines are still maintained by qwest.

Regards,
Richard
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