Are there still Routing tables passed around amongst you higher level hubs? In R19 we sorta haven't had a real-live REC for a while and it appears we have lost Matt at 106/1 as a fer-real feed for some of the nets in R19 again... maybe for good, dunno. We need to address Echomail routed netmail.

Net124 and node 393/11 (through me here at 124/5025) need a path re-defined from 106/1 to Ross at 123/500. Can it be done here?

*Paul*
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Hello Paul!

10 Jul 08 04:09, you wrote to ALL:

Are there still Routing tables passed around amongst you higher level hubs? In R19 we sorta haven't had a real-live REC for a while and it appears we have lost Matt at 106/1 as a fer-real feed for some of the
nets in R19 again... maybe for good, dunno. We need to address
Echomail routed netmail.

Net124 and node 393/11 (through me here at 124/5025) need a path re-defined from 106/1 to Ross at 123/500. Can it be done here?

For the time being, let 261/38, 10/3 and 140/1, that should cover most of the bases.

There isnt really much of a coherent list that could be deemed as official, but
I am looking at possibly putting something up at the fidonet4u site.

==
Ross
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Re: NETMAIL Routing
By: Ross Cassell to Paul Lentz on Thu Jul 10 2008 09:57:16

Net124 and node 393/11 (through me here at 124/5025) need a path re-defined from 106/1 to Ross at 123/500. Can it be done here?

For the time being, let 261/38, 10/3 and 140/1, that should cover most of the bases.

There isnt really much of a coherent list that could be deemed as official, but I am looking at possibly putting something up at the fidonet4u site.

I think that 261/38 gets a feed from Matt? Even if not, his outage is affecting us. I get my feed from Janis, and have seen no Fido traffic except for this echo, and the Synchronet echos for the last several days
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HI ROss,

Ross Cassell wrote in a message to Paul Lentz:

For the time being, let 261/38, 10/3 and 140/1, that should cover
most of the bases.

YEp, I route everything just about either through 1:3634/12 my primary link, mostly through 1:261/38 though for netmail. I'm pots only. IF it's a region or net that has pots within continental U.s. I route to the nc or rc.

There isnt really much of a coherent list that could be deemed as
official, but I am looking at possibly putting something up at the fidonet4u site.

I hope you'll post it here as well for those of us who don't www <grin>.

Btw hope you got my netmail of yesterday morning.


Regards,
Richard
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Hello Richard!

10 Jul 08 15:14, you wrote to me:

YEp, I route everything just about either through 1:3634/12 my primary link, mostly through 1:261/38 though for netmail. I'm pots only. IF
it's a region or net that has pots within continental U.s. I route to
the nc or rc.

3434/12 links here so you can route through him if you like.

There isnt really much of a coherent list that could be deemed as
official, but I am looking at possibly putting something up at the
fidonet4u site.

I hope you'll post it here as well for those of us who don't www
<grin>.

Probably.

Btw hope you got my netmail of yesterday morning.

Yes and replied.

==
Ross
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Hello Joe!

10 Jul 08 12:15, you wrote to me:

I think that 261/38 gets a feed from Matt?

Janis is in a mesh with myself, Seaborn and Brenda.

106/1 gets some of his echoes from me and some from Janis.

Even if not, his outage is
affecting us. I get my feed from Janis, and have seen no Fido traffic except for this echo, and the Synchronet echos for the last several
days

I am not seeing anything fantastically broken..

Why not sign up for a account on my jamnntpd server and compare its traffic with your own?

==
Ross
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HI ROss,

Ross Cassell wrote in a message to Richard Webb:

Hello Richard!

YEp, I route everything just about either through 1:3634/12 my primary link, mostly through 1:261/38 though for netmail. I'm pots only. IF
it's a region or net that has pots within continental U.s. I route to
the nc or rc.

3434/12 links here so you can route through him if you like.

dO some stuff. fUnny thing that, but if I send an article to the snooze editor
if I route it through Janis it never appears there. I route it through 3634/12 it routes through you, and appears in the snooze a week or two later <g>. INteresting stuff that.

I hope you'll post it here as well for those of us who don't www
<grin>.

Probably.

AS well as that, it's sure a good thing for fidonet folks to have an idea about
<g>.

Btw hope you got my netmail of yesterday morning.

Yes and replied.

Okay, will poll Janis. My nc routes my mail through Janis as he's not pots and
I only do pots.

Regards,
Richard
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Re: NETMAIL Routing
By: Ross Cassell to Joe Delahaye on Thu Jul 10 2008 13:18:04

I think that 261/38 gets a feed from Matt?

Janis is in a mesh with myself, Seaborn and Brenda.

106/1 gets some of his echoes from me and some from Janis.

Even if not, his outage is
affecting us. I get my feed from Janis, and have seen no Fido traffic except for this echo, and the Synchronet echos for the last several days

I am not seeing anything fantastically broken..

Why not sign up for a account on my jamnntpd server and compare its traffic with your own?

Dont know if anytying is broken, but Janis mentioned to me yesterday about
Matt being down and it may be causing problems. The last 3 days I have maybe had a dozen messages in the echos I read, (Fido related that is). Janis sends what she gets obviously. The last packet must have included some more stuff as I actully had some stuff. Lee Lofaaso to be exact<G>
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Ross Cassell wrote in a message to Paul Lentz:

10 Jul 08 04:09, you wrote to ALL:

nets in R19 again... maybe for good, dunno. We need to address
Echomail routed netmail.

Net124 and node 393/11 (through me here at 124/5025) need a path re-defined from 106/1 to Ross at 123/500. Can it be done here?

For the time being, let 261/38, 10/3 and 140/1 [know], that should cover most of the bases.

Oops I forgot that 393/11 feeds echomail from somewhere else and that that the route through me (When his Nets hub disapeared) was a fix-up so he could get netmail from the Echolist robot. I might need to check again on his prefered path.

There isnt really much of a coherent list that could be deemed as
official, but I am looking at possibly putting something up at the fidonet4u site.

Thinking about how loosely ERN routes might be defined reminds me of a story of
the very first days of Echomail when it was invented here in Dallas. Jon Sabol would sit and watch packets being passed around and around in dupe loops and stuff non-stop till some routing was hammered out. I wonder just how many hops a dumb netmail could go before it gets to someone who could actually deliver it. :-)



*Paul*
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Richard Webb wrote in a message to Ross Cassell:

only. IF it's a region or net that has pots within continental U.s.
I route to the nc or rc.

Technically neither an RC or an NC is required to route netmail. (I think??? Don't make me dig out Policy4 :-( ) We had one here in R19... I think his official position was that he *WOULD NOT* route... but he kinda did if someone dumped something off. For the last year or more we had an NC here that sorta couldn't route officially because he was IP only and couldn't be reached POTS and couldn't dial the POTS nodes in his net.

*Paul*
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Hi Paul,

Paul Lentz wrote in a message to Richard Webb:

only. IF it's a region or net that has pots within continental U.s.
I route to the nc or rc.

Technically neither an RC or an NC is required to route netmail. (I think??? Don't make me dig out Policy4 :-( ) We had one here in
R19... I think his official position was that he *WOULD NOT*
route... but he kinda did if someone dumped something off. For the
last year or more we had an NC here that sorta couldn't route
officially because he was IP only and couldn't be reached POTS and
couldn't dial the POTS nodes in his net.

Yah that happens a lot these days I note here in fidoland.
Iirc, and I'd have to pull p4 out again myself, nc's are required to route for their nets, rc's not so.

Regards,
Richard
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Joe Delahaye wrote in a message to Ross Cassell:

Dont know if anytying is broken, but Janis mentioned to me yesterday
about Matt being down and it may be causing problems. The last 3
days I have maybe had a dozen messages in the echos I read, (Fido
related that is). Janis sends what she gets obviously. The last
packet must have included some more stuff as I actully had some
stuff. Lee Lofaaso to be exact<G>

I kinda use FIDONEWS as a echomail barometer, since there is always jabbering in there. But like you, I've noticed even it has been dead for 4 or 5 days. I don't even feed from Matt's system anymore. It looks like there is a plug in the system somewhere.

*Paul*
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Re: NETMAIL Routing
By: Paul Lentz to Joe Delahaye on Thu Jul 10 2008 21:12:35

I kinda use FIDONEWS as a echomail barometer, since there is always jabbering in there. But like you, I've noticed even it has been dead for 4 or 5 days. I don't even feed from Matt's system anymore. It looks like
there is a plug in the system somewhere.

Yes, and FN SYsops as well.
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HI Joe,

Joe Delahaye wrote in a message to Paul Lentz:

I kinda use FIDONEWS as a echomail barometer, since there is always jabbering in there. But like you, I've noticed even it has been dead for 4 or 5 days. I don't even feed from Matt's system anymore. It looks like
there is a plug in the system somewhere.

Yes, and FN SYsops as well.

Haven't seen anything in fn_sysop for a few days now, and quit reading fidonews
for a variety of reasons. My feed for fn_sysop comes through same feed as this echo however, and his uplink is ROss's system. Unless Matt is gateway between zones, <don't think so> then it's not there <grin>.

OTher than routed netmail the echoes I feed from Janis are moderator and one that is a gated usenet newsgroup provided by Allen.

btw folks sure like ROss's new distribution angle for backbone files.

Regards,
Richard
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Ross Cassell wrote in a message to Paul Lentz:

Hello Paul!

10 Jul 08 04:09, you wrote to ALL:

Net124 and node 393/11 (through me here at 124/5025) need a path re-defined from 106/1 to Ross at 123/500. Can it be done here?

For the time being, let 261/38, 10/3 and 140/1, that should cover
most of the bases.

I've netmailed each of the top level hubs and hopefully this will work fine! Thanks a bunch!

*Paul*
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