Hello all!

I have to send kudos rOss's way for revamping the backbone auditing process. sOme batch file creation lets me cut dead wood easily.

so in my bit of batch creation I decided to check some things out.

TOtal listed destroyed areas: 239.

OF those, 89 areas are actually shown in the current echolist. THIs means that
roughly 37% of those deleted are actually listed there.

IF anybody wants to see the list of those found in backbone.dst which are actually elisted i"d be glad to psot it.

Regards,
Richard
--- timEd 1.10.y2k+
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Hello Richard!

12 Jul 08 18:25, you wrote to all:

I have to send kudos rOss's way for revamping the backbone auditing process. sOme batch file creation lets me cut dead wood easily.

Thanks

so in my bit of batch creation I decided to check some things out.
TOtal listed destroyed areas: 239.

OF those, 89 areas are actually shown in the current echolist. THIs
means that roughly 37% of those deleted are actually listed there.

Echolisting isnt as authorative as it used to be and certainly doesnt mean an echo is viable.

Some list echoes just to prevent ressurection.

==
Ross
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HI ROss,

Ross Cassell wrote in a message to Richard Webb:

I have to send kudos rOss's way for revamping the backbone auditing process. sOme batch file creation lets me cut dead wood easily.

Thanks

Glad to see such is finally happening in fidoland again <g>.

so in my bit of batch creation I decided to check some things out.
TOtal listed destroyed areas: 239.

OF those, 89 areas are actually shown in the current echolist. THIs
means that roughly 37% of those deleted are actually listed there.

Echolisting isnt as authorative as it used to be and certainly
doesnt mean an echo is viable.

Yah I know. tHInk that one went around last traffic I saw a few months back in
the moderator echo.

Some list echoes just to prevent ressurection.

Yah, I can bet so. Hard to understand what they'd get out of it but ...


Regards,
Richard
... Amazing how much tape is on a 10" reel when it's not.
--- timEd 1.10.y2k+
* Origin: Radio REscue net operations BBS (1:116/901)

Hello Richard!

12 Jul 08 22:28, you wrote to me:

Some list echoes just to prevent ressurection.

Yah, I can bet so. Hard to understand what they'd get out of it but
...

I do the same thing with echoes I once had on the backbone..

What we have had happen recently is a guy listed expired echoes and then turns around ressurects them with imported content from the newsgroups, of the 21 echoes that came out of BACKBONE.NO, most of them were of this variety and I saw no traffic in them that originated on Fidonet.

So when I decide to retire an echo, I want it to stay that way.

==
Ross
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--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20060121
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HI ROss,

Ross Cassell wrote in a message to Richard Webb:

Some list echoes just to prevent ressurection.

Yah, I can bet so. Hard to understand what they'd get out of it but

I do the same thing with echoes I once had on the backbone..

What we have had happen recently is a guy listed expired echoes and
then turns around ressurects them with imported content from the newsgroups, of the 21 echoes that came out of BACKBONE.NO, most of
them were of this variety and I saw no traffic in them that
originated on Fidonet.

Yah I know whom you speak of, and can understand. Others may not have your reasons though, and its those I don't understand when I say I can't see what they get out of it.

So when I decide to retire an echo, I want it to stay that way.

Yah, I understand. when I should, if I should decide I can no longer be part of fidonet, leave I would hope somebody else would take over either echo I have
listed.

btw never have seen that response to netmail I sent you. DOn't know where abouts in limbo land it went <g>.

I think what you've done with this audit and the new addition to backbone file distribution is a plus for fidonet. We're about quality rather than quantity imho <g>.

Regards,
Richard
--- timEd 1.10.y2k+
* Origin: Radio REscue net operations BBS (1:116/901)

Hello Richard!

13 Jul 08 02:01, you wrote to me:

btw never have seen that response to netmail I sent you. DOn't know
where abouts in limbo land it went <g>.

Tell Denny that I am going to recheck the server cfg to make sure its setup matches the new backbone files.

==
Ross
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--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20060121
* Origin: The Eastern Star - Spartanburg, SC USA (1:123/456)

Hello Richard!

13 Jul 08 02:01, you wrote to me:

btw never have seen that response to netmail I sent you. DOn't know
where abouts in limbo land it went <g>.

I believe it is sitting on your NC's system, I was checking the route tables and saw the entry..

I changed it to go to you via Mark. (Not the original reply but anything in the
future)

I think what you've done with this audit and the new addition to
backbone file distribution is a plus for fidonet. We're about quality rather than quantity imho <g>.

Yes I thought it high time that we as a network offer up a roster of echoes that matched our times. Nearly all the echoes removed were left overs that remained in the system from days long gone. The conventional wisdom that was used regarding these old echoes was that "they werent hurting anything" by remaining rostered.

However offerring up dead air just because they are hurting anything only wastes the time of sysops setting up and maintaining their boards and of course
the end users of those boards.

==
Ross
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--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20060121
* Origin: The Eastern Star - Spartanburg, SC USA (1:123/456)

HI ROss,

Ross Cassell wrote in a message to Richard Webb:

btw never have seen that response to netmail I sent you. DOn't know
where abouts in limbo land it went <g>.

I believe it is sitting on your NC's system, I was checking the
route tables and saw the entry..

IT'll eventually make its way to Janis then. we had a glitch in routing between he and I for awhile but then he fixed something in his configs.

I changed it to go to you via Mark. (Not the original reply but
anything in the future)

Ah that works well. YOu connect directly with Mark as do I. Where since my nc is ion and I"m pots only ...

I think what you've done with this audit and the new addition to
backbone file distribution is a plus for fidonet. We're about quality rather than quantity imho <g>.

Yes I thought it high time that we as a network offer up a roster of
echoes that matched our times. Nearly all the echoes removed were
left overs that remained in the system from days long gone. The conventional wisdom that was used regarding these old echoes was
that "they werent hurting anything" by remaining rostered.

Yah, it's still nice to have places for discussing such things as the batch language and using old computers for those of us who use them. Yet a lot of those were for software and tools nobody uses anymore at all. E.g. I haven't seen anybody running searchlight for years <g>.
THat is, unless sl morphed into something else which is currently in use.

However offerring up dead air just because they are hurting anything
only wastes the time of sysops setting up and maintaining their
boards and of course the end users of those boards.

Yah, especially with the newfangled systems that just turn on everything when you set up the board and get a fidonet connection. Lots of disk space allocated
for nothing, especially if the system which does this uses *.msg format bases <g>.

This is one thing I like
about my areafix prg. If a downlink or I request an echo and the request goes to the uplink it isn't automatically created. IF within a specified period of time no messages appear in that echo then the software automatically sends a delink request upstream. Quite painless <g>.

EVen with that, before I found it I had some echoes set up here which were basically dead air. homepower and some of the nasa bulletins to name two. TOo bad they are as I would have found some interesting reading otherwise <g>.


Regards,
Richard
--- timEd 1.10.y2k+
* Origin: Radio REscue net operations BBS (1:116/901)